Free Agency Thread

Releasing Barbosa creates $3.5M more space, allowing Suns greater flexibility to accept salary dumps attached w/ young assets/draft picks. https://t.co/s4Nq4uDIBY

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 3, 2017

Am I crazy, or didn't the Pels have some pressure to finish something by today. I thought I remember someone saying their guaranteed contracts become guaranteed today, or something like that. Please ignore if I am wrong, just hoping for some early fireworks.

Suns released Barbosa giving them a little flexibility. Bledsoe trade coming soon ;-)

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Originally Posted by Delko

Who are the 6 firsts for you then?

I see Warriors Rockets as sure locks. But then, Spurs Thunder Wolves Jazz Blazers Nuggets Grizzlies Clippers and Pelicans can all go 3 to 11 depending on how the season goes. The gap between all those team is very small.

Only team out the playoffs are Suns Lakers Kings and Mavs to me.

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I think Memphis sinks out of the boat-----Blazers collapse. Entirely too guard driven-----Utah-In w/Hayward--Out w/out--------Clippers-dysfunctional & Blakes not a leader OUT.------T-Wolves-Still OUT/zero shooters------ If Denver re-signs Galinari/Dangerous-----Spurs are teetering,Definitely NOT home court.--------OKC-I Don't Know! These are just opinions.

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Originally Posted by Delko

Who are the 6 firsts for you then?

I see Warriors Rockets as sure locks. But then, Spurs Thunder Wolves Jazz Blazers Nuggets Grizzlies Clippers and Pelicans can all go 3 to 11 depending on how the season goes. The gap between all those team is very small.

Only team out the playoffs are Suns Lakers Kings and Mavs to me.

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Good Question, thanks for asking.

1) Warriors




2) Hou
3) SAS
4) OKC
5) Minn
6) If Hayward goes back to Utah...Utah
7) NO...If Hayward doesn't return we are #6 at best.
8) Por

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Originally Posted by 23speedkillz

Suns released Barbosa giving them a little flexibility. Bledsoe trade coming soon ;-)

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that's what Im thinking, but heck, i wouldn't mind Barbosa as a role player Bae.

Send 2018 1st plus Asik and whatever else they want that is reasonable to get Bledsoe


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Originally Posted by lsutigers33

that's what Im thinking, but heck, i wouldn't mind Barbosa as a role player Bae.

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Me neither. He is a vet, and he is still fast. I was thinking of him the other day, and what it would take to get him.

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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

Send 2018 1st plus Asik and whatever else they want that is reasonable to get Bledsoe


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Sending Asik costs already one 1st rounder more, so you would need to send 1 in 18,20 and try to sell a swap in 21 to make the deal at least appealing.

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Originally Posted by Delko

Sending Asik costs already one 1st rounder more, so you would need to send 1 in 18,20 and try to sell a swap in 21 to make the deal at least appealing.

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I would do that deal. We need a talented pg. Bledsoe would really help this team move to the next level. We should make a major trade. We are in a good position to compete and win against anyone. We just need to add the right pg.


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It looks like Hayward is staying in Utah :(

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

It looks like Hayward is staying in Utah :(

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Link? Where did you see /hear that?

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Originally Posted by Butters

Link? Where did you see /hear that?

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http://bleacherreport.com/live-blogs...-2017-7-3-2017

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Originally Posted by Butters

Link? Where did you see /hear that?

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I'm not sure, but Hayward wants to play with Rubio, and Ingles is one of his closest friends. Utah can also pay him the most.

This team isn't making the playoffs unless Gentry changes his entire system which plays thru Boogie in the low/high post & quits with the idiotic breaking at every chance which leads to numerous stupid shot.

But Gentry's never done that before. He's shown no ability to do it.

People here are high on Dell but he already murdered this season by not replacing Gentry who in no way fits AD and Boogie.

Jazz had Ricky Rubio fly in from Spain for presentation to Gordon Hayward. Joined by Gobert, Ingles and Hood.

— David Locke (@Lockedonsports) July 3, 2017

Hayward isn't Paul George, or Lebron James, but that team is going to be a top 5 team in the West.

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Originally Posted by SilkySlim

This team isn't making the playoffs unless Gentry changes his entire system which plays thru Boogie in the low/high post & quits with the idiotic breaking at every chance which leads to numerous stupid shot.

But Gentry's never done that before. He's shown no ability to do it.

People here are high on Dell but he already murdered this season by not replacing Gentry who in no way fits AD and Boogie.

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They brought the guy in from Denver as an assistant to run that offense (boogie at the high post). I don't think they would have hired the guy if Gentry wasn't gonna change his offense.

But we'll see.

Looking more and more like our team's ceiling is a 6 seed.

Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Thunder, Jazz, Wolves all probably have the best claim for 1-6. Maybe, maybe if everything falls right we could beat the Jazz or Wolves and make the 5th seed.

I only say the Wolves because I have been reading and talked to a couple friends from Minny and they are surprisingly down on the team. Thinking they have an incredible roster....if this was 1994. Really convinced the individual pieces are much more then the sum of their parts here. They see a really ugly fit .

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

They brought the guy in from Denver as an assistant to run that offense (boogie at the high post). I don't think they would have hired the guy if Gentry wasn't gonna change his offense.

But we'll see.

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In recent interviews Finch and Gentry are pretty clear on embracing a shift in system to incorporate a lot more of what Finch did in Denver.

NO Bronco in other words GM tells Genty your systems didn't work. Keep your job and we will get a guy to run the offense.
If you slip up once your fired Erman steps in.

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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco

Looking more and more like our team's ceiling is a 6 seed.

Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Thunder, Jazz, Wolves all probably have the best claim for 1-6. Maybe, maybe if everything falls right we could beat the Jazz or Wolves and make the 5th seed.

I only say the Wolves because I have been reading and talked to a couple friends from Minny and they are surprisingly down on the team. Thinking they have an incredible roster....if this was 1994. Really convinced the individual pieces are much more then the sum of their parts here. They see a really ugly fit .

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Way too early to tell how the season will play out. I think we are a playoff contender if healthy. Seeding cannot be determined yet.

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Originally Posted by Buckwheat

NO Bronco is other words GM tells Genty your systems didn't work. Keep your job and we will get a guy to run the offense.
If you slip up once your fired Erman steps in.

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No, the team traded for one of the best centers in the NBA and went out and got an offensive mind who has had success with big men who with similar abilities. Everything you post is twisted to make anything this team does negative. If you do not like ANYTHING they do, move on and follow another team.

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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco

In recent interviews Finch and Gentry are pretty clear on embracing a shift in system to incorporate a lot more of what Finch did in Denver.

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Yup Gentry was really excited and couldn't believe he took the job to come here.

While Nick Young to the Warriors remains a possibility, I'm told there are several other teams still in the mix for the Swaggy P services.

— Sam Amick (@sam_amick) July 3, 2017

Add the Minnesota Timberwolves as another team that's interested in Nick Young. Young also has interest from Warriors, Thunder & Pelicans

— Mark Medina (@MarkG_Medina) July 3, 2017

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

No, the team traded for one of the best centers in the NBA and went out and got an offensive mind who has had success with big men who with similar abilities. Everything you post is twisted to make anything this team does negative. If you do not like ANYTHING they do, move on and follow another team.

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Amen!


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Originally Posted by jprdbulldog20

Add the Minnesota Timberwolves as another team that's interested in Nick Young. Young also has interest from Warriors, Thunder & Pelicans

— Mark Medina (@MarkG_Medina) July 3, 2017

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The Wolves surely don't have the cap room to compete for him unless they move a contract.

If Hayward returns to Utah, Danny Ainge is going to look bad this offseason. He already failed to land PG13 and the Cavs will probably run through Boston again.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

The Wolves surely don't have the cap room to compete for him unless they move a contract.

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Supposedly they've been trying to move Aldrich to get that contract off their books

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Originally Posted by jprdbulldog20

Add the Minnesota Timberwolves as another team that's interested in Nick Young. Young also has interest from Warriors, Thunder & Pelicans

— Mark Medina (@MarkG_Medina) July 3, 2017

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Hope we do not overpay for him. Not sure he is worth a full MLE 4 year deal given his age.

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Originally Posted by Butters

If Hayward returns to Utah, Danny Ainge is going to look bad this offseason. He already failed to land PG13 and the Cavs will probably run through Boston again.

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He'll just go swim in his money pool with all his draft picks and feel a lot better.


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Who is better for the Pelicans Nick Young (age32) or CJ Miles (age 30)? and at what prices?

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Originally Posted by DOMINION

Who is better for the Pelicans Nick Young (age32) or CJ Miles (age 30)? and at what prices?

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How about both?

Crazy thing is the Celitcs might miss out on all the stars, and next year they will be in the same Position. Gosh I love Boston screwing up.

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Originally Posted by Delko

How about both?

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Young seems to be gunning for the MLE. He has several suitors. Not sure I would invest a 4 year MLE deal for him.

Warriors’ Kevin Durant is taking even less money than we all thought https://t.co/ysphV5SbGj pic.twitter.com/g9NVsOD63R

— Mercury News (@mercnews) July 3, 2017

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Crazy thing is the Celitcs might miss out on all the stars, and next year they will be in the same Position. Gosh I love Boston screwing up.

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Worse position. Weak free agency class & both Isaiah Thomas and Avery Bradley are free agents.

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Originally Posted by MG3n2K9

Worse position. Weak free agency class & both Isaiah Thomas and Avery Bradley are free agents.

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I trying they maw Thomas and let Bradley walk to go with Brown at the 2

If Anyone is interested, MM has undertoned that Holiday may be involved in trade talks. MM has thrown the hook out !!

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Originally Posted by Tinman

If Anyone is interested, MM has undertoned that Holiday may be involved in trade talks. MM has thrown the hook out !!

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No he hasn't, he's been asked whether we were looking at an impact player. And he answered by questioning if Holiday was one.

That just means yes we look for an impact guy and that is obvious. Does not mean we are moving Jrue.

Any indication any of the teams he has talked to has any interest in a trade? Are players involved impact players?

— SaintsnPelicans (@SaintsnPelicans) July 3, 2017

Do you consider Jrue an impact player? That will help me answer your question https://t.co/mkz1W9aNV2

— Pelicans Podcaster (@SilverAndMac) July 3, 2017

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Originally Posted by Tinman

If Anyone is interested, MM has undertoned that Holiday may be involved in trade talks. MM has thrown the hook out !!

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Holiday literally can't be traded until Dec. 15. We just signed him as a UFA.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q92

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96. When can a team trade a free agent it signs? Do they have to keep him forever?

Generally a team only has to keep a player for three months after signing a contract or December 15 of that season, whichever is later.

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Originally Posted by Delko

No he hasn't, he's been asked whether we were looking at an impact player. And he answered by questioning if Holiday was one.

That just means yes we look for an impact guy and that is obvious. Does not mean we are moving Jrue.

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Not quite sure what you are reading. he specifically said He could quantify if the Tweeper thought Jrue was an impact player. That's pretty straight forward. Why would he involve Holidays name at all if the question had nothing to do with him?

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Originally Posted by Buckwheat

NO Bronco in other words GM tells Genty your systems didn't work. Keep your job and we will get a guy to run the offense.
If you slip up once your fired Erman steps in.

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Finch, by all accounts, was a person Gentry - not Demps, and not ownership - sought out.

I may not have trust in Gentry to lead this team yet(hope he proves me wrong this season), but we at least need to give credit where credit is due. Gentry sought Erman and he reportedly sought and is actively highly receptive to Finch's input and offensive re-structuring. He seems to know how to put a good supporting staff around himself. That is one thing he at least deserves credit for.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

Holiday literally can't be traded until Dec. 15. We just signed him as a UFA.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q92

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Technically Jrue is still a free agent, a sign and trade is still possible though highly highly unlikely.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Way too early to tell how the season will play out. I think we are a playoff contender if healthy. Seeding cannot be determined yet.

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Well of course not, but its the offseason, its that period where we start setting our expectations for next season lol. Lots of space to fill in before the season starts for sure, lots can certainly happen. That was just my snapshot of where I would feel things would fall if the season started tomorrow, knowing full well it doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Not quite sure what you are reading. he specifically said He could quantify if the Tweeper thought Jrue was an impact player. That's pretty straight forward. Why would he involve Holidays name at all if the question had nothing to do with him?

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Because he is asking the poster to define what a "impact player" means. He is using Jrue as an example of a suggested parameter.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

Holiday literally can't be traded until Dec. 15. We just signed him as a UFA.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q92

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We haven't SIGNED anybody, yet!!

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Not quite sure what you are reading. he specifically said He could quantify if the Tweeper thought Jrue was an impact player. That's pretty straight forward. Why would he involve Holidays name at all if the question had nothing to do with him?

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In reading that, it sounds like he is comparing whoever we are looking at to Jrue in terms of "impact." However, MM has said on many occasions that he did not feel that Jrue moves the needle much more than someone like Lin or Rubio. So, that may be the level of player he is talking about. I highly doubt we have what it takes to get someone like Bledsoe or similar.

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Originally Posted by MG3n2K9

Technically Jrue is still a free agent, a sign and trade is still possible though highly highly unlikely.

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Fair point, though agreements made during the negotiated period are rarely, if ever, modified once agreed upon.