Game Thread: Nuggets @ Hornets

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Originally Posted by SaintBrock

I've been thinking that Roberts is a better player than this board gives him credit for. I guess its easy for me to post this now after a great performance. How can anyone say he is not a legit NBA player? Look at the dropoff from him to Terell Harris. Remember Mike James? Antoinio Daniels?!! Roberts will never be an All star but he can shoot the hell out of the ball and tonight when he played with starters he distributed very well. He will stick around next year and possibly a few more years. I think if he was 22 instead of 27 this board would love him a lot more.

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1st impression was bad... he was pretty poor at the start of the season... but he has shown some real real good development lately... very encouraging

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Umm, no one is suggesting he is the answer at point, just that GV is not. :hihi:

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Exactly, I think Burke would be a guy who could run the point and create offense. Not sure how he would fit with Gordon though. So I still want Smart first. Dude plays D. Our D was much better than the O tonight. On Offense we just made open shots.

So, again, not trying to bash Vasquez, but he is only doing well because of Monty's system. Throw Roberts in the mix, and he gets 18 assists in his 1st start at PG. We need to capitalize on Vasquez's value this summer before it all goes downhill. Definitely not saying Roberts is the answer though...

Darius Miller ;)

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Originally Posted by rt0307

1st impression was bad... he was pretty poor at the start of the season... but he has shown some real real good development lately... very encouraging

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This is what I'm thinking exactly! I hope his improvement is due to his development, and not just that he was being guarded by Andre Miller for half the game. But he looked good tonight, not enough for me to say he should take GV spot, but I'm excited to see what he does Wednesday! He drop double digit assists and can stay in front of CP3? Then we got something.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

So, again, not trying to bash Vasquez, but he is only doing well because of Monty's system. Throw Roberts in the mix, and he gets 18 assists in his 1st start at PG. We need to capitalize on Vasquez's value this summer before it all goes downhill. Definitely not saying Roberts is the answer though...

Darius Miller ;)

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This wasn't Roberts first start at PG. The last game gordon missed he started at PG and Vasquez at SG.

You'd be silly to say that Roberts' assist look the same as Vasquez's. Vasquez's assist are great in numbers, but they are not a product of good ball movement. More like: ball hog then pass to a shooter. lol

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Okay. Tank is on. I set this to record from the Cox app. Here's to hoping the Cox iPhone app sucks and doesn't actually set my dvr to record it. lol

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so did your DVR work? are you going to watch this game again? :hihi:

All I gotta say is that is the best ball movement I've seen from the team since the very beginning of the season.

It's pretty well documented that 75% of the board recognizes Vasquez's defensive deficiencies by now also. Roberts played fantastic D all night and kept the ball handler out of the lane and what a difference it makes.

At one point, the FT deficiency was 9:35 Nuggets and we held a double digit lead all game pretty much.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

This wasn't Roberts first start at PG. The last game gordon missed he started at PG and Vasquez at SG.

You'd be silly to say that Roberts' assist look the same as Vasquez's. Vasquez's assist are great in numbers, but they are not a product of good ball movement. More like: ball hog then pass to a shooter. lol

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But even when Roberts started at "PG," Vasquez still ran the show. This was Roberts' first time to actually dominate the ball for a whole game, and his numbers surpassed Vasquez's numbers. Small sample, obviously, and I agree with your premise that Vasquez's numbers come from "ball hog then pass to a shooter." That's pretty much exactly how it goes, and Roberts is proof that anyone can succeed with that method haha.

Where are the Vasquez fanboys?!?!

:hihi:

I wonder if they will rest Greivis Wednesday and ride the momentum from this win

WOOOOOO

UNO Gracias very mute tonight...

Roberts did a great job tonight.

Do you guys remember that time Matt Flynn started that game for the Packers last year, and had that amazing game. It netted him a huge contract with the Seahawks, and all the while people were wondering if it was just the system that caused Flynn's amazing game, and not that Flynn was the next great thing. But then Flynn got benched for a rookie.

I am not saying GV is Rodgers, and I am not saying Roberts is the next big thing, but I am saying its a pretty nice system when your a pg with two arms and 20/20 vision.

That said, the future looks good for us.

Right on que!

I was taking care of some business about town. Sorry to keep my fans waiting.:rolleyes:

What are your thought on Miller? He seemed to have a very good game. Could we have a Jared Dudley type on our bench.

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

I wonder if they will rest Greivis Wednesday and ride the momentum from this win

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God I hope so. I'd love to see Miller start at the 2 again as well.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

UNO Gracias very mute tonight...

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You jinxed it!

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

You jinxed it!

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:hihi:

I wonder if these numbers have more to do with it being that time of the year when your Ike Diogu's are averaging 30pts a game and 10 rebounds a night, or if these were some of those legit numbers. Seeing as how Denver is fighting for seeding I am sure it was hard fought, but Denver was exceptionally sloppy.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I was taking care of some business about town. Sorry to keep my fans waiting.:rolleyes:

What are your thought on Miller? He seemed to have a very good game. Could we have a Jared Dudley type on our bench.

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I'm one of the few that thinks he can be a starter down the road. He is a rookie, and people forget that because he is 23, but he needs time to adjust to the NBA, and he looks real solid in limited minutes. He got 20+ tonight, and he balled out. Give it to him again, and see if he can be consistent. I like him going forward because he'd be cheap, can hit the 3, can rebound, is a really good passer, and can develop into a really good defender. He has great tools to be a premier role player, and that's what I want from our 3. Let Davis, Gordon, Rivers, and Anderson be the playmakers, and let guys like Miller, Lopez (if he is still here), Vasquez (if he is still here), and JSmith be the role players.

Can't have all-stars at every position. I love Miller as a potential starter/role player.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

But even when Roberts started at "PG," Vasquez still ran the show. This was Roberts' first time to actually dominate the ball for a whole game, and his numbers surpassed Vasquez's numbers. Small sample, obviously, and I agree with your premise that Vasquez's numbers come from "ball hog then pass to a shooter." That's pretty much exactly how it goes, and Roberts is proof that anyone can succeed with that method haha.

Where are the Vasquez fanboys?!?!

:hihi:

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Roberts did not play ball hog and pass to shooter. Did you watch the same game? This is just sad how people are so blind.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

I'm one of the few that thinks he can be a starter down the road. He is a rookie, and people forget that because he is 23, but he needs time to adjust to the NBA, and he looks real solid in limited minutes. He got 20+ tonight, and he balled out. Give it to him again, and see if he can be consistent. I like him going forward because he'd be cheap, can hit the 3, can rebound, is a really good passer, and can develop into a really good defender. He has great tools to be a premier role player, and that's what I want from our 3. Let Davis, Gordon, Rivers, and Anderson be the playmakers, and let guys like Miller, Lopez (if he is still here), Vasquez (if he is still here), and JSmith be the role players.


Can't have all-stars at every position. I love Miller as a potential starter/role player.

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I totally agree about Miller. Love his potential as a complimentary starter. Potential to be a knockdown shooter and defend. Wish he would have gotten more playing time throughout the season when this team was already out of it.

Hornets.com Postgame

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I think Darius could be a slightly better Mike Miller (in his prime) on a contender. That shot looks sweet and he could tear up an opposing bench.

I still think you need a 6'6" - 6'9" wing that can go one-on-one on an iso. That search should continue.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Roberts did not play ball hog and pass to shooter. Did you watch the same game? This is just sad how people are so blind.

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(Nolaslim correct me if I am wrong) I don't think he was saying Roberts was ball hogging and pounding the rock until he found a shooter. I believe he was describing GV's game, not Roberts. He was saying what a contrast the two have, and the results of such are better under Roberts.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Roberts did not play ball hog and pass to shooter. Did you watch the same game? This is just sad how people are so blind.

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I actually didn't get to watch the game. I was assuming you were saying that Roberts played ball-hog and outplayed Vasquez in that manner, but I guess I was wrong. So sorry man :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

(Nolaslim correct me if I am wrong) I don't think he was saying Roberts was ball hogging and pounding the rock until he found a shooter. I believe he was describing GV's game, not Roberts. He was saying what a contrast the two have, and the results of such are better under Roberts.

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No, you are correct. Inner_GI is just freaking out for some reason...

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

I actually didn't get to watch the game. I was assuming you were saying that Roberts played ball-hog and outplayed Vasquez in that manner, but I guess I was wrong. So sorry man :rolleyes:

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Ahh. No Roberts got his assists by doing everything PGs are supposed to do. He even passed the ball to continue to the ball movement even if it wasn't going to be his assist.

I mean the team had 30+ assists tonight. It was flowing nicely, and Roberts was the glue to this offense. We kind of fell off the deep end when we resorted to Harris or Mason at the PG.