New Orleans Pelicans NBA Trade Deadline Rumor Mill

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Then not to mention. Jarrett jack was traded for the rights to edin bavcic.

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To make room for Anderson, is my understanding.

Hopefully tonight it Gordan's last game as a Pelican, but I'm not holding my breath. I just hope he survives tonight injury free.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

That first round pick was like 19th in the 2011 draft. I'm fine with that. Also, Portland turned around and traded that pick plus Joel Przybilla, Dante Cunningham, Sean Marks to Charlotte for Gerald Wallace. Charlotte with the 19th pick select Tobias Harris who was traded to Milkwaukee who was a no body until he came to Orlando last year and had a breakout season. I don't see how it was that bad. Jack was a player CPME wanted to play with and provided good things of the bench in our only playoff run.

That first round pick was protected 1-7 in 2011 and 1-8 2012-2014.

You are acting like we traded away the rights to the next Kobe Bryant... (we did that already)

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Dude you can't go that deep into a trade. The trade was a 1st rd pick for bayless who didn't last a month. Makes it a bad trade. So then we traded jack for the rights to edin bavcic. Ok so that pick wound up being Tobias Harris. That doesn't matter cause we could also say let's look at all the players after him we could of got such as Kenneth faired, jimmy butler, Reggie Jackson, Jordan Hamilton, chandler parsons, the fact is that it was a bad trade no matter how u slice the pie.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

To make room for Anderson, is my understanding.

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Oftentimes, one move is made to make room for another one. This is why a lot of fans have a hard time understanding some trades and deals. Not all trades are made for IMMEDIATE impact. This is why a GM's job is never done. Building and managing a roster can't possibly easy.

Also, when Dell traded a 2nd round pick for Brad Miller and 2 second round picks from Minnesota. Then he turns around and trades Jerom Dyson and Brad Miller to Suns and 2 second round picks back to Minnesota for Lopez and Warrick.

That's just sick business, imo.

I think Gordon is here through the season at least. Hopefully he plays injury free solid ball the rest of the year.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Hopefully tonight it Gordan's last game as a Pelican, but I'm not holding my breath. I just hope he survives tonight injury free.

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Hay we agree lol. Maybe he can drop a 30+ bomb to help out the cause.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Also, when Dell traded a 2nd round pick for Brad Miller and 2 second round picks from Minnesota. Then he turns around and trades Jerom Dyson and Brad Miller to Suns and 2 second round picks back to Minnesota for Lopez and Warrick.

That's just sick business, imo.

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Ok but where is any of that right now?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Dude you can't go that deep into a trade. The trade was a 1st rd pick for bayless who didn't last a month. Makes it a bad trade. So then we traded jack for the rights to edin bavcic. Ok so that pick wound up being Tobias Harris. That doesn't matter cause we could also say let's look at all the players after him we could of got such as Kenneth faired, jimmy butler, Reggie Jackson, Jordan Hamilton, chandler parsons, the fact is that it was a bad trade no matter how u slice the pie.

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You HAVE to go that deep into all trades.... One move sets up the next. That's the job of a GM.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Ok but where is any of that right now?

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Tyreke Evans.

He turned Jerome Dyson, Brad Miller, 2 second round picks, Pondexter, and Lopez into Tyreke Evans and Jeff Withey. I like it. Only 1 of those players Dell traded is actually valuable and it's Lopez.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Also, when Dell traded a 2nd round pick for Brad Miller and 2 second round picks from Minnesota. Then he turns around and trades Jerom Dyson and Brad Miller to Suns and 2 second round picks back to Minnesota for Lopez and Warrick.

That's just sick business, imo.

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That was a fantastic trade IMO. Lopez was a bargain for this team. However, he gave him away for nothing in order to pay Evans. That is why I think Evans needs to be a home run for him. He created a big hole at the 5 to overpay for a player at a position that we already had covered with Gordon (and thus far, has not been able to move Gordon).

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

You HAVE to go that deep into all trades.... One move sets up the next. That's the job of a GM.

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So it was planned all along to trade our 1st rd pick for bayless so we could flip him for jack?? If u believe that I have some ocean side property in Idaho I'd like u to buy.

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The greatest irony of the season will that Eric Gordon will be the healthiest Pelican of them all.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

That was a fantastic trade IMO. Lopez was a bargain for this team. However, he gave him away for nothing in order to pay Evans. That is why I think Evans needs to be a home run for him. He created a big hole at the 5 to overpay for a player at a position that we already had covered with Gordon (and thus far, has not been able to move Gordon).

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Exactyly. If you have to go that deep into trades then that move isn't any good right now caus Lopez isn't even here anymore. Evans is so he needs to be a home run as u said for any of that to matter. Can't have it both ways.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

So it was planned all along to trade our 1st rd pick for bayless so we could flip him for jack?? If u believe that I have some ocean side property in Idaho I'd like u to buy.

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No it wasn't in the plans, but really how far can you predict in the NBA? Seriously. Like 1 week in advance at the most? If you want to grade microtransactions, go ahead. I'll continue to look at the big picture like I always do.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Tyreke Evans.

He turned Jerome Dyson, Brad Miller, 2 second round picks, Pondexter, and Lopez into Tyreke Evans and Jeff Withey. I like it. Only 1 of those players Dell traded is actually valuable and it's Lopez.

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Wrong. Our $$$ got Evans. Lopez was just a pawn to facilitate the trade.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Wrong. Our $$$ got Evans. Lopez was just a pawn to facilitate the trade.

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Not wrong. Without Lopez and Vasquez, the Kings match.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

No it wasn't in the plans, but really how far can you predict in the NBA? Seriously. Like 1 week in advance at the most? If you want to grade microtransactions, go ahead. I'll continue to look at the big picture like I always do.

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The big picture looks bright due to 1 thing. ANTHONY DAVIS. Without him the future is bleak at best. He is saving a few jobs right now. The point is the Gordon resigning isn't the only bad move he's made like u said. After a few bad signings died he compensate for them by making other moves? In a way yes but it was still a bad move to begin with. Like I said that '1st rd pick he traded could of been chandler parsons, Kenneth faired, jimmy butler n a couple others. Instead it ended up being Jarrett jack who was pretty much let go for nothing.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Not wrong. Without Lopez and Vasquez, the Kings match.

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Wasn't Lopez sent for the cap space? To Portland?

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Not wrong. Without Lopez and Vasquez, the Kings match.

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I agree with u 100% on another thing I see u said too. At some point this dam coach has to be held accountable for not getting the job done. U said the players too but the players accountability falls back to the gm cause he put them here.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

The big picture looks bright due to 1 thing. ANTHONY DAVIS. Without him the future is bleak at best. He is saving a few jobs right now. The point is the Gordon resigning isn't the only bad move he's made like u said. After a few bad signings died he compensate for them by making other moves? In a way yes but it was still a bad move to begin with. Like I said that '1st rd pick he traded could of been chandler parsons, Kenneth faired, jimmy butler n a couple others. Instead it ended up being Jarrett jack who was pretty much let go for nothing.

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Could have been, but if Dell si as bad as you say, do you have confidence he picks any of those players?

Also, I'm not ready to judge the Tyreke signing and Jrue in entirity. In the early stages, I like what I see, but I'm not in anyway calling it a failure like some think it is.

You keep going back to that 1 first round pick. Plus if you think those players ar so good, they could of changed our draft pick for AD, the only bright spot according to you. A transaction reaches farther than the initial level. It lives on for years and years, and it should be judged as so.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

The big picture looks bright due to 1 thing. ANTHONY DAVIS. Without him the future is bleak at best. He is saving a few jobs right now. The point is the Gordon resigning isn't the only bad move he's made like u said. After a few bad signings died he compensate for them by making other moves? In a way yes but it was still a bad move to begin with. Like I said that '1st rd pick he traded could of been chandler parsons, Kenneth faired, jimmy butler n a couple others. Instead it ended up being Jarrett jack who was pretty much let go for nothing.

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Could have been. It's not definite though. I need everyone to remember, it takes two. Sometimes 3. We can't just sit up here and say, oh, we could've had this guy and that guy. You HAVE to have a partner. Just because we don't have those guys doesn't mean Dell never inquired about any of them.

This almost reminds me of when we don't hear our names in trade rumors and we always assume it's because the GM isn't doing anything and he's just sitting on his hands, just because we don't hear about it. And then BOOM.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Wasn't Lopez sent for the cap space? To Portland?

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Vasquez went to Kings, Lopez went to Portland to clear room, and we got Tyreke and Withey in return.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Wasn't Lopez sent for the cap space? To Portland?

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3-team trade homie.

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The trade -- which can't be officially completed until July 10 -- will send Evans to the Pelicans via sign-and-trade, with Sacramento receiving guard Greivis Vasquez from the Pelicans and Portland acquiring New Orleans center Robin Lopez.

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