NBA Draft Combine Tomorrow (5/16/13)/Measurements pg. 6

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Depends on what u consider pretty good...average?? Then yea...not sure if Bledsoe can even be called average yet

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iggy shot .317 in the regular season and 48% int he playoffs, bledsoe shot 40% on the entire season, otto porter shot 44%

these arent above average?

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Originally Posted by MeSoHornets504

I'm not too well versed on McLemore, but is it safe to say he is very similiar to Beal last year? Seems that's what it looks like.

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na, mclemore is more athletic, beal can create for himself better than mclemore

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

Alot of guys want Burke but unless we get rid of Vasquez... we're not drafting a PG. Monty has put alot of time into developing him and I don't think GV is going anywhere... that's just my opinion.

I like Burke but I don't think we'll take him even if he's available when we're on the clock. Yeah I know we talked to him... its called "due-diligence".

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Monty has also been talking about how badly he wants speed at the point. He has mentioned it in several of his "recent" interviews. We know Rivers adds that dimension. If we are able to flip Vasquez for a legit asset, then I wouldn't say Monty's investment in Vasquez's development was for not. Look at what the Saints just did with Chris Ivory - picked him up as an UDFA, developed him, and flipped him 3 years later for a 4th round pick.

What i've gathered from Monty, Dell, Benson and the gang is: 1. They are not looking to prolong this rebuild any further. I dont see us making any pro rebuild trades (cough gordon cough) or making package deals for next years lottery unless we get a deal we cant pass up. 2. They are looking primarily for need positions; dont be surprised if a Shroedder or Saric sneaks into our pick if Burke and Porter are gone. 3. They want VETERANS!!!! No more trade scenarios involving us taking a million draft picks or rookies please!!! We should be looking to compete for a playoff spot next year; we shouldnt blow up our freaking roster. Whether you agree or not, this is what i see happening.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

burke ran a very nice 3.16 in the sprint

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For reference, CP3 ran a 3.22, Westbrook ran a 3.08, Derrick Rose ran a 3.05, John Wall ran a 3.14, Jeff Teague ran a 3.18, and Nate Robinson ran a 2.96.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

What i've gathered from Monty, Dell, Benson and the gang is: 1. They are not looking to prolong this rebuild any further. I dont see us making any pro rebuild trades (cough gordon cough) or making package deals for next years lottery unless we get a deal we cant pass up. 2. They are looking primarily for need positions; dont be surprised if a Shroedder or Saric sneaks into our pick if Burke and Porter are gone. 3. They want VETERANS!!!! No more trade scenarios involving us taking a million draft picks or rookies please!!! We should be looking to compete for a playoff spot next year; we shouldnt blow up our freaking roster. Whether you agree or not, this is what i see happening.

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Trading Gordon/Lopez for Bledsoe/Jordan/Green isn't inconsistent with anything you said you believe above.

If Monty is ready to challenge for a playoff spot next year, it could be that they've come to the conclusion that his coaches and teammates can't depend on Gordon to consistently contribute to that playoff push. Swapping out 2 young vets for 2 other young vets and a veteran Monty loves (Willie) doesn't mean we're rebuilding, especially if the players we acquire are plugged into starting lineup.

Just the opposite in fact, going into this season depending on Mr. Glass would mean we're still rebuilding and willing to be patient and still wait and see what happens with Gordon.

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Originally Posted by MeSoHornets504

I'm not too well versed on McLemore, but is it safe to say he is very similiar to Beal last year? Seems that's what it looks like.

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He isn't as good with the ball in his hands. McLemore is very excellent with off-ball movement and everything that comes with it.

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Shabazz Muhammad. 29.5" standing vert. 37" max vert. #NBACombine

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Not bad at all.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

burke ran a very nice 3.16 in the sprint

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I said Burke was faster than Paul but slightly less quick and/or explosive and that's actually what the numbers says.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

iggy shot .317 in the regular season and 48% int he playoffs, bledsoe shot 40% on the entire season, otto porter shot 44%

these arent above average?

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Iggy is a career 32% 3 pt shooter. So, no that isn't an above avg 3 pt shooter. That 48% is only on 29 attempts. His reg season numbers are his true % numbers. The bigger sample size is what is judged. Bledsoe doesn't have a big enough sample size to grade that 40% which was only this year in which he only attempted 78 3s. The year he attempted 116 3s. He only shot 27%. He is a 30% career 3pt shooter. So no he is def not an above avg 3 pt shooter. As far as Otto porter. Him and mclemore both were at 42% not 44%.and in comparison mclemore shot 173 3s. Porter only attempted 102. I'd like to see him shoot more before labeling him above avg. reason being is he shot 22% the year before. Big time improvement tho. Just not a big enough sample size to really judge him yet. Btw I love porter and hope we draft him. To me an above avg 3 pt shooter are the better ones of the league. These guys def fall into the avg category. IMO. Not saying Bledsoe or porter can't get better and become that but at this time. I think it's Pre mature. Going off the numbers we currently have on these 2. Iggy is def not and will not ever be an above avg 3 pt shooter. The numbers are there for him to judge. 32% is actually border line avg/below avg.

http://ukrecruiting.bloginky.com/fil...08/UKposts.jpg

Couple things stand out. Look how much narrower Noel's shoulders are compared to Davis. Hell. Look how broad Davis's shoulders are compared to Cauley-Stein.

And also, when they did Noel's measurements, did they count the hair too? :huh2:

I see why Anthony Davis only weighs 220 lbs....


He has a tiny head.

Interviews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6KkW1mnkHw -Nerlens Noel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I627pJP-0Qw -Alex Len

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Oc5_rGNTo -Victor Olidipo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qddd80N1i3U -Ben McLemore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMdPWp-d0Z0 -Shabazz Muhammad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fQ5RAyjfBg -Otto Porter Jr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wBfOpaa1yc -Trey Burke

Dipo seems like a really smart kid. He's probably who I want the most out of this draft. Burke and Porter had good interviews as well. McLemore didn't seem like the brightest guy.

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Originally Posted by endlessHIMdark

Dipo seems like a really smart kid. He's probably who I want the most out of this draft. Burke and Porter had good interviews as well. McLemore didn't seem like the brightest guy.

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I'm really not a fan of BM :( I get his attributes but his bad qualities just make me very nervous as a starting 2.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I'm really not a fan of BM :( I get his attributes but his bad qualities just make me very nervous as a starting 2.

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Lol you said BM. :hihi:

Ben mec seems incredibly nice and softspoken. Hes definately not a good speaker though.

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Originally Posted by endlessHIMdark

Lol you said BM. :hihi:

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Tehe

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

http://ukrecruiting.bloginky.com/fil...08/UKposts.jpg

Couple things stand out. Look how much narrower Noel's shoulders are compared to Davis. Hell. Look how broad Davis's shoulders are compared to Cauley-Stein.

And also, when they did Noel's measurements, did they count the hair too? :huh2:

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Wow Stein has got to be 7'1. Also, Noel does look a little taller than AD, but AD looks to have more of an NBA body than Noel. He's built like a 3.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Ben mec seems incredibly nice and softspoken. Hes definately not a good speaker though.

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That's part of what I don't like about him, that softspokeness is evident in his game. I just don't know if he has a "killer" mentality and that's what I want in a 2.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

thats not too impressive, harrison barnes had a 40 i think

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guy jumping 38 not impressive?

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Originally Posted by RUFshreve

Man if we drafted Dipo, traded Gordon for Bledsoe and used our cap space to sign Iggy our defense would be sick. And late in the game if we had AD at the 5 and Ryno in at the 4, it would be a good mix of offense and defense. I could roll with that lineup.

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that is my dream scenario...maybe al jefferson instead of iggy, but either way

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

http://ukrecruiting.bloginky.com/fil...08/UKposts.jpg

Couple things stand out. Look how much narrower Noel's shoulders are compared to Davis. Hell. Look how broad Davis's shoulders are compared to Cauley-Stein.

And also, when they did Noel's measurements, did they count the hair too? :huh2:

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That are AD has grown some more.

Demps did say AD's grown half an inch since we drafted him, actually.

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Wow Stein has got to be 7'1. Also, Noel does look a little taller than AD, but AD looks to have more of an NBA body than Noel. He's built like a 3.

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Look at Davis arms. He's clearly longer than Noel.