2022-23 Offseason Thread

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Free agent Jalen Brunson intends to sign a four-year, near $110M deal with the New York Knicks in free agency, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The Mavericks never received chance to make offer, sources said.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

Another confirmation

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So funny how blatant the "tampering" occurs in free agency, yet Silver only reacts in certain cases when another owner complains.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

So funny how blatant the "tampering" occurs in free agency, yet Silver only reacts in certain cases when another owner complains.

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He punished teams that announced sign and trades a minute after FA began. Would do so again this year, so I bet you dont see those. That was the difference. We know all of these were done days before, but you can argue you can come to terms on a UFA in one minute. Cant convince anybody something as hard as a S&T can come together that quick.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

He punished teams that announced sign and trades a minute after FA began. Would do so again this year, so I bet you dont see those. That was the difference. We know all of these were done days before, but you can argue you can come to terms on a UFA in one minute. Cant convince anybody something as hard as a S&T can come together that quick.

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More like inconveniencing them and taking 2nd round picks. Yeah... cool.

The Spurs are pulling the qualifying offer on Lonnie Walker IV, making him an unrestricted free agent, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Expect a strong market for Walker immediately.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

He punished teams that announced sign and trades a minute after FA began. Would do so again this year, so I bet you dont see those. That was the difference. We know all of these were done days before, but you can argue you can come to terms on a UFA in one minute. Cant convince anybody something as hard as a S&T can come together that quick.

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If I recall, the reason it became an issue is because another team complained.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

If I recall, the reason it became an issue is because another team complained.

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Other teams complain ALL THE TIME. Again, the reason those were targeted was because they were sign and trades

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Originally Posted by Taker597

When a fanbase is so desperate for mediocrity... They would be happy with anything till they get embarrassed with yearly 1st round exits. Regardless if they want to be honest or not... Winning raise standards. They'll be the 1st ones to yell for a rebuild.


Even then, KD is not the answer.

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When your franchise has been saddled with awfulness for the vast majority of its history, yeah, mediocrity in the form of 5-6 straight years of playoffs would be welcomed.

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Originally Posted by RobertM320

When your franchise has been saddled with awfulness for the vast majority of its history, yeah, mediocrity in the form of 5-6 straight years of playoffs would be welcomed.

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Except nothing about the state of this franchise, even without "hit it and quit it" KD, screams mediocrity.

People who say that are just arguing with lazy bad faith nonsense.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Except nothing about the state of this franchise, even without "hit it and quit it" KD, screams mediocrity.

People who say that are just arguing with lazy bad faith nonsense.

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That's not what I said. What I SAID is, when you've had as little success as a franchise as we've had, even a string of 5-6 consecutive years of playoffs would be considered a step up. I didn't say we should be satisfied with that, and I didn't say that's all we have to look forward to. I was talking about our HISTORICAL achievements.

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Originally Posted by RobertM320

That's not what I said. What I SAID is, when you've had as little success as a franchise as we've had, even a string of 5-6 consecutive years of playoffs would be considered a step up. I didn't say we should be satisfied with that, and I didn't say that's all we have to look forward to. I was talking about our HISTORICAL achievements.

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Exactly. I honestly believe that this core, with reasonable health and development, is going to be a consistent playoff team, with multiple showings in the WCF, over the next 5-7 years. If some luck falls our way, I could see that even including a finals trip. And yes, stranger things have happened: it may even include a title if everything goes well. But let's say something like 6 straight playoff appearances with 2 appearances in the WCF.

That would make it by far the most successful iteration of the Pelicans in the entire history of the franchise. Of course I'd be happy about that.

Sure, if we got KD (we won't) and won a chip (I don't think we would) that would be awesome, but it probably transforms that 5-7 year success window into maybe 2-3 years, and then a complete restart.

Would I rather 6 consecutive playoff appearances, multiple WCF appearances, with a team that we get the pride of saying was built and not bought with maybe only a 5% chance of a ring in those 6 years, over 2 years of success with a coinflip of a championship, bought off the back of Twitter Soldier Kevin Durant?

To me the answer is clearly the former.

The @memgrizz today announced the following medical update. pic.twitter.com/pFV4gNVMVk

— Grizzlies PR (@GrizzliesPR) June 30, 2022

Grizz starting next season with a big oof. 6 months takes them basically until January. Missing JJJ for half the year, basically.

Free agent Malik Monk is finalizing a deal with the Sacramento Kings, sources tell me and @sam_amick.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

Sources: Malik Monk is signing a two-year, $19M deal to join the Kings. https://t.co/spgbvRZspx

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

Free agent PJ Tucker is finalizing a three-year, $33.2 million fully guaranteed deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, his agent Andre Buck (@andrebuck14) told @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

Free agent Victor Oladipo has agreed to a one-year, $11 million deal to return to the Miami Heat, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

Free agent center Isaiah Hartenstein has agreed to a two-year, $16 million-plus deal with the New York Knicks, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Fully guaranteed deal for Hartenstein.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

Free agent center DeAndre Jordan has agreed to a deal with the Denver Nuggets, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

The @memgrizz today announced the following medical update. pic.twitter.com/pFV4gNVMVk

— Grizzlies PR (@GrizzliesPR) June 30, 2022

Grizz starting next season with a big oof. 6 months takes them basically until January. Missing JJJ for half the year, basically.

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Curious if this is 4-6 months in regular recovery time, or Pelicans recovery time and he is out for the year

Two-time NBA MVP Nikola Jokic has agreed to a five-year, $264 million supermax contract extension with the Denver Nuggets, the richest deal in NBA history, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Fifth season (2027-28) will be a player option at $60M.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

The Phoenix Suns and All-NBA guard Devin Booker are finalizing a four-year, $214 million supermax contract extension that he’s set to sign as soon as next week, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

Booker will also be the cover athlete for NBA 2K23, per sources.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

and we finish with some expected extensions.

Sham had the gun ready to fire.

Free agent Bobby Portis has agreed to a four-year, $49 million deal to return to the Milwaukee Bucks, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Deal includes a player option in Year 4.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

The man is still going!

Portis with a player option!

Sources: The NBA has set salary cap for 2022-23 season: $123,655,000 cap, $150,267,000 tax line.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

Portland Trail Blazers guard Anfernee Simons has agreed on a four-year, $100 million contract extension, his agent Bill Duffy of @BDA_Sports + WME Sports tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

Portland is paying Anfernee Simons $25m a year, oof.

All-Star guard Bradley Beal has agreed to a five-year, $251 million maximum contract to stay with the Washington Wizards, his agent Mark Bartelstein of @PrioritySports tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

Bradley Beal gets a max extension. That's an overpay, Jesus Christ

Free agent Danuel House has agreed to a deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

Morey gradually just rebuilding the Rockets but in Philadelphia this time

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Sources: The NBA has set salary cap for 2022-23 season: $123,655,000 cap, $150,267,000 tax line.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

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After signing Daniels, Pels would be about 3.5 from tax line. No roster spots available. Calculate all trade ideas, signings, etc with that in mind. They arent going to finish the year in the tax

Free agent center Mo Bamba has reached an agreement with the Orlando Magic on a two-year, $21 million deal, his agents Mark Bartelstein and Greer Love of @PrioritySports tell @YahooSports. https://t.co/Vs09sDBcOl

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) June 30, 2022

''We aren't giving you a qualifying offer.

But we'll have you back.

And we'll pay you basically the same amount as your QO would have.''

Free agent G Tyus Jones is returning to the Memphis Grizzlies on a two-year, $30M deal, his agent Kevin Bradbury of @REP1Basketball tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Free agent center Mo Bamba has reached an agreement with the Orlando Magic on a two-year, $21 million deal, his agents Mark Bartelstein and Greer Love of @PrioritySports tell @YahooSports. https://t.co/Vs09sDBcOl

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) June 30, 2022

''We aren't giving you a qualifying offer.

But we'll have you back.

And we'll pay you basically the same amount as your QO would have.''

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Like I said, they removed the QO because of the cap hold. He looked around, couldnt do better than the tax payer MLE and came back

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Curious if this is 4-6 months in regular recovery time, or Pelicans recovery time and he is out for the year

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For a Stress fracture, this is correct. A complete displaced fracture should have no immediate timetable. Foot injuries are completely chaotic.

BREAKING NEWS:

Sources very close to free agent @Joeingles7 can confirm that he has agreed to a one-year deal with the Milwaukee Bucks.

CEO of the house, Renae Ingles, is thrilled for Joe and their family.

Joe himself, is said to be very bucking happy.#nba #nbanews pic.twitter.com/4yra9gQst3

— Renae Ingles (@RenaeIngles) June 30, 2022

Joe Ingles' wife breaking the news here

Free agent Wesley Matthews has agreed to a one-year deal to return to the Milwaukee Bucks, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

Wes Matthews returning to the Bucks

Free agent C Damian Jones has agreed to a two-year deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

Amir Coffey has agreed to a three-year, $11M deal with the Clippers, his agents Bill Duffy and Marlon Harrison of @BDA_Sports and WME Sports tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

League source confirms Knicks and Isaiah Hartenstein are in agreement on two-year deal. Barring something unforeseen, Hartenstein will back up Mitchell Robinson, who has been expected to re-sign with NYK.

— Ian Begley (@IanBegley) June 30, 2022

Mitch Robinson staying, adding Hartenstein for backup, acquiring Brunson. Knicks are finally doing the right thing and acquiring solid roleplayers to contribute to an actual basketball team.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Free agent C Damian Jones has agreed to a two-year deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

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That’s it. There goes our 1st. Another Lebron championship!

Free agent G Lu Dort has agreed to a five-year, $87.5M deal to stay with the Oklahoma City Thunder, his agent Thad Foucher of Wasserman tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

Edit: completely misread the value of the deal, not quite as excellent as I thought it was!

Free agent F Nic Batum has agreed to a two-year deal to return to the Los Angeles Clippers, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

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Originally Posted by RobertM320

That's not what I said. What I SAID is, when you've had as little success as a franchise as we've had, even a string of 5-6 consecutive years of playoffs would be considered a step up. I didn't say we should be satisfied with that, and I didn't say that's all we have to look forward to. I was talking about our HISTORICAL achievements.

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I didnt say you said that either. I was referring to people who do say it. They know who they are.

Free agent G Trevelin Queen has agreed a deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Free agent G Tyus Jones is returning to the Memphis Grizzlies on a two-year, $30M deal, his agent Kevin Bradbury of @REP1Basketball tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

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Shiiit

Free agent center Dewayne Dedmon has agreed to a two-year, $9 million deal to return to the Miami Heat, agents Mike Silverman and Brandon Grier of @steinbergsports tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

Free agent forward Thaddeus Young has reached an agreement with the Toronto Raptors on a two-year, $16 million deal with the addition of performance incentives, his agents Jim Tanner and Max Wiepking of @_tandemse tell @YahooSports.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) June 30, 2022

Bulls don't get Thad back. Shame for them, he's long been a solid NBA rotation player.

I'm going to take a few minutes away to go make a drink and such, so the NBA isn't allowed to do anything for the next 15-20 minutes. Fingers crossed.

He was on the Raptors last year. Got traded to Spurs in 2021 in DeRozan S&T. He's long been a favorite of mine

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Originally Posted by neitzelbaby12

He was on the Raptors last year. Got traded to Spurs in 2021 in DeRozan S&T. He's long been a favorite of mine

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Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that :hihi: He got traded to Toronto in February or something too. My mental image of Thad Young is just in a Bulls jersey

Restricted free agent forward Marvin Bagley III has reached an agreement with the Detroit Pistons on a three-year, $37 million deal, league sources tell @YahooSports.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) June 30, 2022

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Free agent G Lu Dort has agreed to a five-year, $87.5M deal to stay with the Oklahoma City Thunder, his agent Thad Foucher of Wasserman tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

Edit: completely misread the value of the deal, not quite as excellent as I thought it was!

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And this is at a discount because they basically gave him a huge bump this year to get savings on the back end. If you look at it accurately, its a 4 year/$86 mil extension. Good player, but I didnt want to pay that for what would be a backup on this roster

Lonnie Walker IV is signing a one-year, $6.5M deal with the Lakers, sources said. https://t.co/7xBnStLWfo

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

That's basically the MLE gone, no?

Free agent Troy Brown Jr. has agreed to a minimum deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

Free agent G Patty Mills has agreed to return to the Brooklyn Nets on a two-year, $14.5M deal, his agent Steven Heumann of @CAA_Basketball tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022