Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

Grizzlies are targeting Desmond Bane here, per source.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 19, 2020

Really good pick for them. He'll fit great there, gives them some team defense, secondary playmaking, and a lot of shooting versatility.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Saw on Twitter that Kira is excited about being fairly close to his home in Alabama.

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He played for Avery Johnson... a New Orleanian. I'm sure Avery will make him even happier about being here.

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Originally Posted by Funcrusher

What's your point. Adams is literally slow and groundbound to the point of being practically useless on D, (beyond rebounding) I'd rather just resign Favs than give up assets for him.

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This is literally just not true. He's actually a fairly capable defender, has good hands and lateral mobility, very high IQ. Screens well on both ends. Not some switchable guy or anything but he's fine on defense.

First-round pick headed New Orleans’ way from Denver is set to be deeper in the future, source says - Pels may not see it until 2023 at the earliest.

— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) November 19, 2020

I like how we're collecting a lot of distant picks. The value in this, at least a part of the value in this (other than trade tools) is that just as guys like Zion are hitting their extension and our cap space starts to get squeezed, we have a way to filter in more talent on the team. Super important.

I wonder what the protection is and if we ever end up getting the pick. I wish we would of kept RJ. The only problem is that him and NAW are kind of the same type of player being a taller combo guards.

Kira Lewis: “I feel like overall I’m better than any other guard in the draft.”

— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) November 19, 2020

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I like how we're collecting a lot of distant picks. The value in this, at least a part of the value in this (other than trade tools) is that just as guys like Zion are hitting their extension and our cap space starts to get squeezed, we have a way to filter in more talent on the team. Super important.

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Griff ain't lying when he talks about "longevity" of the franchise

Sources: Dallas is picking Tyrell Terry at No. 31 in the NBA Draft.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 19, 2020

That's fine

Tillman, Riller, continue the slide

Well, at least someone else saw something in Payton Pritchard too. WHEW!!!

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

First-round pick headed New Orleans? way from Denver is set to be deeper in the future, source says - Pels may not see it until 2023 at the earliest.

— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) November 19, 2020

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I'm loving it.

It seems like Griffin may have a "New England Patriot's of the NBA" strategy where we trade back to keep maximizing our assets. In this case, it's getting to a deeper draft but it's a great strategy for a small market team.

Edit: You said similar while I was slowly typing this out.

Gotta say it’s refreshing to have some decision makers that take the long view. Even if it gives me less to be immediately excited about.

Does Gundy envision Lonzo as a 2? Or does Gundy envision Lonzo as a number 2?

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

I'm loving it.

It seems like Griffin may have a "New England Patriot's of the NBA" strategy where we trade back to keep maximizing our assets. In this case, it's getting to a deeper draft but it's a great strategy for a small market team.

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It's a good tactic. If you don't like the value at 24 this year, why not essentially just move it for a pick that could well be at 24 or so as well, just a few years on? Kick the can down the road.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Nuggets are sending a future protected 1st to New Orleans, league source says, for R.J. Hampton.

? Mike Singer (@msinger) November 19, 2020

As predicted

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So, we are probably getting the same pick in a better draft. Hopefully.


Or also nothing because Nuggets could easily just implode.

C: Hayes
PF: Zion, Melli
SF: BI, Hart
SG: JJ, NAW
PG: Lonzo, Bledsoe, Hill, Lewis

Now we just got to move two of those point guards and sign us a center in free agency

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Does Gundy envision Lonzo as a 2? Or does Gundy envision Lonzo as a number 2?

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Can't remember his exact words but he has mentioned playing him off ball in a sort of 'wing' type manner, or something to that effect. Which is fine, that's the best way to use Lonzo in the half court imo. That doesn't mean he likes him, but he's obviously not gonna tell us if he DISlikes him, is he?

Damn the shooters I really liked go back to back pretty much

Damn I liked Vernon Carey as well to give us a center

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Does Gundy envision Lonzo as a 2? Or does Gundy envision Lonzo as a number 2?

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Somewhere I think he mentioned envisioning Lonzo playing some wing.....or did I dream that?

Edit: Dae is outtyping me......you on some extra earl grey this British AM? Lol

Charlotte is targeting Duke's Vernon Carey Jr. at No. 32, per source.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 19, 2020

Not a fan of that, but hey whatever

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

Somewhere I think he mentioned envisioning Lonzo playing some wing.....or did I dream that?

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Then we are not moving Lonzo

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

This is literally just not true. He's actually a fairly capable defender, has good hands and lateral mobility, very high IQ. Screens well on both ends. Not some switchable guy or anything but he's fine on defense.

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ok, ill revise. Adams, coming off of injuries in the playoffs this year was slow and groundbound to the point of being rendered useless on D . That initial post was hyperbole and i apologize. But he was literally played off the floor against the rockets, who i know went really small, but weren't some unbeatable death lineup against bigs. Rewatch the series. Man had no ability to move laterally, constantly late on rotations, hardly any lift as rim protector. And he was injured, i realize that. But that's my point. All the things you said only really apply when he's healthy, and at this stage he rarely is. He's basically a more oft injured faves.

6 picks until ours, and Tillman, Riller, Merrill all still on the board. I would prioritise Tillman, but I like the other two as well.

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So, we are probably getting the same pick in a better draft. Hopefully.


Or also nothing because Nuggets could easily just implode.

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In that case the pick usually moves to another year unprotected.

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Can't remember his exact words but he has mentioned playing him off ball in a sort of 'wing' type manner, or something to that effect. Which is fine, that's the best way to use Lonzo in the half court imo. That doesn't mean he likes him, but he's obviously not gonna tell us if he DISlikes him, is he?

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If Lonzo keeps improving his 3 ball, it makes sense. Both do well in transition and the hope is Kira could make up for the half court prowess Lonzo lacks.

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Originally Posted by Funcrusher

ok, ill revise. Adams, coming off of injuries in the playoffs this year was slow and groundbound to the point of being rendered useless on D in the playoffs. That initial post was hyperbole and i apologize. But he was literally played off the floor against the rockets, who i know went really small, but weren't some unbeatable death line against bigs. Rewatch the series. Man had no ability to move laterally, constantly late on rotations, hardly any lift as rim protector. And he was injured, i realize that. But that's my point. All the things you said only really apply when he's healthy, and at this stage he rarely is. He's basically a more oft injured faves.

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Sure he has limitations, I wouldn't put eggs in his basket, but he's an expiring for this year and would be a good gap filler. Obviously it depends on the cost, I wouldn't pay big for him, but his deep playoff limitations don't bother me when we're a team that might easily not be a playoff team at all.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Can't remember his exact words but he has mentioned playing him off ball in a sort of 'wing' type manner, or something to that effect. Which is fine, that's the best way to use Lonzo in the half court imo. That doesn't mean he likes him, but he's obviously not gonna tell us if he DISlikes him, is he?

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That would be the most hybrid role i've ever seen. 3 and D SF role in the half court and PG in the full court?

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Originally Posted by ragincaucasian

That would be the most hybrid role i've ever seen. 3 and D SF role in the half court and PG in the full court?

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It would certainly maximise his strengths.

The Knicks are targeting Daniel Oturu at No. 33, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 19, 2020

Knicks continue their disappointing draft.

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Payton Pritchard:

But hey, he'll be a Celtics fan favourite for *some reason*

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Is that "some reason" code for something nefarious? Of course it is, huh? But, I'm the hater in the forum. LMAO!!

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

It would certainly maximise his strengths.

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I guess he could play Point Forward on fast breaks?

If you don't love a player at 24 (and I would have liked Hampton if we hadn't taken Kira), I am good with this. I want to give us ammunition to upgrade our team starting in 2022-2023 or so when Zion and Ingram are hitting their prime. Remaining as liquid as possible until then makes sense as an asset play, as well as in terms of how many young guys we already have on the roster. I would have preferred another team because I think Denver is likely to still be really good in 2023, but I really do get not taking another first round pick there in this draft.

Edit: Several other people said the same thing.

Robert Woodard is still available too. I like him.

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Is that "some reason" code for something nefarious? Of course it is, huh? But, I'm the hater in the forum. LMAO!!

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Pritchard is white, Celtics fans love white players, it's a meme.

Seth Curry going to 76ers

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That would be the most hybrid role i've ever seen. 3 and D SF role in the half court and Point Forward in the full court?

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Imagine Ball's pin point passing with Kira streaking down the court or zig zagging around players.

Ball and Zion often had TOs where they made a great play but their team mate didn't react fast enough to catch it.....Kira is the type that can keep up with him.

But SVG likes to play inside out in half court so expect the bigs to have the ball a lot.

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Originally Posted by Mount Zion

Robert Woodard is still available too. I like him.

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I've seen him described ''precisely fine'', which I largely agree with

Dallas is acquiring Philadelphia's Josh Richardson and No. 36 pick for Seth Curry, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 19, 2020

Interesting

Oturu apparently going to the Clippers in a trade, not sure what's going back to NY

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Sure he has limitations, I wouldn't put eggs in his basket, but he's an expiring for this year and would be a good gap filler. Obviously it depends on the cost, I wouldn't pay big for him, but his deep playoff limitations don't bother me when we're a team that might easily not be a playoff team at all.

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Yeah, my original post shouldn't have been so harsh. I don't really have a problem with going after him, just the idea of giving up ANY significant assets to do so.

I?ve been watching The Boys. I was looking forward to watching a couple of episodes tonight before bed, but this draft has me stuck checking my phone.

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Dallas is acquiring Philadelphia's Josh Richardson and No. 36 pick for Seth Curry, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 19, 2020

Interesting

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This is great for both sides.

5 picks left until it gets back to us. Xavier Tillman, Grant Riller still on the board.

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This is great for both sides.

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Agreed. The Sixers have acquired Maxey and then two different 40% three point shooters.

Talk about reworking the roster immediately, eh Morey?

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Dallas is acquiring Philadelphia's Josh Richardson and No. 36 pick for Seth Curry, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 19, 2020

Interesting

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Good for him. Now Doc can keep his eye on his daughter and son in law, unlike the Paul George situation.

I have learned never to cheer for a certain player in the second round. Consensus falls apart and so it never works.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Pritchard is white, Celtics fans love white players, it's a meme.

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That's bold!! But, hey, it's all good; whatever floats your boat.

Memphis is targeting Xavier Tillman with the No. 35 pick, a source tells ESPN.

— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) November 19, 2020

Memphis came into this draft with ONLY the 40th pick and they've walked out with Bane and Tillman.

What a goddamn result for them. Wow.

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Dallas is acquiring Philadelphia's Josh Richardson and No. 36 pick for Seth Curry, source tells ESPN.

? Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 19, 2020

Interesting

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Cuban being Cuban


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Sources: Dallas is picking Tyler Bey at No. 36 in the NBA Draft. Pick acquired in Josh Richardson/Seth Curry trade.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 19, 2020