Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Remind u of somebody?

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Hahaha touche' u know anything on this hairston kid? he looks legit.

just went on UNC's forum and researched and everyone said that he is a beast can score at anytime, can drive and has a wet jumper, said he is the best player on UNC's team, better than mcadoo and since his minutes have increased he has been insane, they said he reminds them of a taller marcus thornton w rebounding, kid had 29pts-9rebs the other night too, would love to get a late first and grab this kid if we go len, we could be a sg/sf twiner

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

just went on UNC's forum and researched and everyone said that he is a beast can score at anytime, can drive and has a wet jumper, said he is the best player on UNC's team, better than mcadoo and since his minutes have increased he has been insane, they said he reminds them of a taller marcus thornton w rebounding, kid had 29pts-9rebs the other night too, would love to get a late first and grab this kid if we go len, we could be a sg/sf twiner

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Yea he's not going in the draft from what I heard tho maybe that has changed?? But he is def a slasher and scorer. Gets to the hoop at will and is a strong finisher. Haven't watched lots of him tho but from the little I have he seems legit.

After the laker game, Smart or Porter should be a lock. They are both good on the offensive and defensive ends of the court. Len, Noel, and Bennett are more one dimensional in their games. I don't put McLemore in there cause I think he'll be gone with the first or second pick. Smart is a combo guard that can play and guard multiple positions and I think Porter can guard multiple positions. I think they. We could have put either on Kobe and done a decent job after rivers got hurt. I can't wait for the off season to see the moves.

there is no doubt in my mind that this will be the most telling off season in Pelican's history....

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Who is this PJ Hairston kid? He looks like a really nice scorer, is he entering the draft?

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No, but ask me anything. Lifelong UNC fan here. :coolg: You'd be more likely to see Reggie Bullock make the jump. Shooting over 40% from the arc and very physical.

FWIW, what Chad Ford said about Trey Burke in yesterday's chat:

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Has Trey Burke moved himself into the top 10?

Chad Ford
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No, but I'm beginning to wonder if he will ultimately land there. Scouts are obsessed with what he isn't (lacks elite size or explosive athleticism) but he's sooooooo good at everything else. If he was a better athlete, he'd remind me a lot of Chris Paul. I really, really like him. While I haven't heard anyone really mention him as a Top 10 player, I would consider him there and think that by the draft combine, scouts might as well.

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Oh and speaking of UNC, the small lineup of UNC dominated Len yesterday. Do NOT want.

Not impressed with any big coming out save Anthony Bennett. Len...just can't get behind him.

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Originally Posted by Bigeauz

FWIW, what Chad Ford said about Trey Burke in yesterday's chat:

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I don't think it's his lack of athleticism they make me stop short of calling him a CP3 clone as much as it his lack of elite craftiness that stops the identical comparisons. I'd give the slight end of leaping and quickness to Paul and the slight end in strength and speed to Burke.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Not impressed with any big coming out save Anthony Bennett. Len...just can't get behind him.

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Seriously. Len had 0 points in the last 15 minutes of the game. While missing free throws.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I don't think it's his lack of athleticism they make me stop short of calling him a CP3 clone as much as it his lack of elite craftiness that stops the identical comparisons. I'd give the slight end of leaping and quickness to Paul and the slight end in strength and speed to Burke.

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Even a "slight" comparison is worth it, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Even a "slight" comparison is worth it, in my opinion.

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Agreed

Another interesting Burke tidbit: He had 26 in that game yesterday, right?


He had 12 at the 8:00 mark in the 2nd quarter. 12.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I don't think it's his lack of athleticism they make me stop short of calling him a CP3 clone as much as it his lack of elite craftiness that stops the identical comparisons. I'd give the slight end of leaping and quickness to Paul and the slight end in strength and speed to Burke.

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How crafty was Paul when he was still in school? When Paul came to the Hornets is when I started watching and getting into basketball, so I never saw him in college. That's obviously more of an instinct than a coachable trait, but it can still develop, IMO. In any case, I'm not going to be unhappy if he ends up being our pick. Of course there's still plenty of time fo fall in and out of love with prospects...

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Seriously. Len had 0 points in the last 15 minutes of the game. While missing free throws.

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You can really take away a big man in college.

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Originally Posted by Bigeauz

How crafty was Paul when he was still in school? When Paul came to the Hornets is when I started watching and getting into basketball, so I never saw him in college. That's obviously more of an instinct than a coachable trait, but it can still develop, IMO. In any case, I'm not going to be unhappy if he ends up being our pick. Of course there's still plenty of time fo fall in and out of love with prospects...

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Crafty enough to be a 6' player taken in the top 5.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

You can really take away a big man in college.

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Amen.

For a prime example see Andre Drummond last year and Andre Drummond this year.

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Originally Posted by Bigeauz

How crafty was Paul when he was still in school? When Paul came to the Hornets is when I started watching and getting into basketball, so I never saw him in college. That's obviously more of an instinct than a coachable trait, but it can still develop, IMO. In any case, I'm not going to be unhappy if he ends up being our pick. Of course there's still plenty of time fo fall in and out of love with prospects...

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Chris Paul was the most crafty college player I recall ever seeing.

Dribbling and ball handling can get better. Trey has improved his craftiness for his freshman season so it's do-able. I'm not sure how much more he'll improve in that area.

The one thing that Burke does that I only see PG's like Nash, Paul, and Irving do is his ability to to play at different gears in tight spaces. Those guys can get into the interior of a defense and have a gift for making the right plays. They play super quick make split second decisions, but never look rushed.

The reason I never like John Wall as a dynamic PG was because he plays the game at one gear super fast and his decision making was poor.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

You can really take away a big man in college.

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That's due to poor spacing in the college game most guys don't have NBA range so teams run a lot of soft zones and switching concepts. So guys are never too far away from the paint.

The college game allows more physicality in the paint and lanes compared to the NBA. However with Len, who experts say has an excellent post game on the offensive side and polished, still hasn't displayed those traits in the few games I've seen. Mainly watch UNC where PJ is a true force on the offensive side. Underrated in my opinion.

I'm in love with Marcus Smart. He'll go down as the best player from this draft, imo.

Otto porter is about to play cuse. He is gonna be good

Porter
Smart
Burke

Any of three would be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

Otto porter is about to play cuse. He is gonna be good

Porter
Smart
Burke

Any of three would be awesome.

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Put Smart on that list ahead of burke and you got it!

Otto about to tipoff on ESPN

love how porters vocal, always moving, knows where to be all the time, great cutter as well

Only two PTs at halftime but lead rebounds and assists. I like the kid and burke

I haven't followed much. But alot of hype of Poythress early on. Why he fall? Shooting almost 60% and 43% from three

Monty would just LOVE Otto Porter. Long, smart, plays great defense, versatile.

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

I haven't followed much. But alot of hype of Poythress early on. Why he fall? Shooting almost 60% and 43% from three

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There's been no fall. But I just wonder if he's even coming out this year.

Nerlens Noel

Otto Porter's points don't justify what he's doing out there. he's orchestrating this team from the free throw line. They really run through him. he has a great understanding for the game and doing whatever he has to do to give his team the best chance to win. i've been watching this whole game, guys only taken three shots but you can see he's finding the open guys

The stats really don't bear it out. He's the key cog. He's like a 6'9" high post PG. Syracuse has no answer for him. They overload, he can pass over the top of the trap. If they come too slowly, he can rise up and knock down the jumper.


Dude would fit so many needs if we managed to draft him.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

The stats really don't bear it out. He's the key cog. He's like a 6'9" high post PG. Syracuse has no answer for him. They overload, he can pass over the top of the trap. If they come too slowly, he can rise up and knock down the jumper.


Dude would fit so many needs if we managed to draft him.

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really is a triple double threat every night out. takes what you give him. Nowhere on the floor you can't pay attention to him. All those midrange and long range spots aminu can't hit, Porter can

His versatility reminds me of Davis. Imagine him and Davis on the floor at the same time? The options and versatility would be a little mind boggling.

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Originally Posted by wuggie

His versatility reminds me of Davis. Imagine him and Davis on the floor at the same time? The options and versatility would be a little mind boggling.

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he's also great at finding bigs... something our guys miss is davis open on the baseline

Did anyone watch the Syr bs Georgetown game fully? Who did porter match up against and did he execute well?

Marcus Smart is the pick if he's on the board.

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Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

Marcus Smart is the pick if he's on the board.

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Think we are gonna take a SF or C, no place for smart unless we trade gordon.

Smart would be a fun PG to have honestly. He reminds me of a less athletic Wade.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Think we are gonna take a SF or C, no place for smart unless we trade gordon.

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Always, always, always draft BPA if they don't fit they become assets.

I watched the last 10 minutes of the okst v kst game and Smart won that game with his scoring off the dribble and played solid defense and picking up 2 big defensive rebounds in the closing minutes with Kansas players crashing the glass hard. Smart will be a top 2 pick with maybe the Magic picking him up.

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

I watched the last 10 minutes of the okst v kst game and Smart won that game with his scoring off the dribble and played solid defense and picking up 2 big defensive rebounds in the closing minutes with Kansas players crashing the glass hard. Smart will be a top 2 pick with maybe the Magic picking him up.

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If i were the Magic i'd be trying to acquire 2 picks in the top 12 with their pick. No one is outlandishly good.

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Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

Always, always, always draft BPA if they don't fit they become assets.

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Ya ur right but i think shabazz otto porter and smart are all about the same so i think we'll go with BPA and need. I would be fine with smart or oladipo if we traded gordon

Smart fills backup PG and backup SG so I won't be opposed to him. I think McLemore would be a 2 with spot 3 abilities because of his good defense. Then Porter, then shabazz for same reason as McLemore.

I cant wait til the draft and free agency hollllly cow

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

If i were the Magic i'd be trying to acquire 2 picks in the top 12 with their pick. No one is outlandishly good.

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It wouldn't surprise me if they did trade down for picks in next years draft, but I know The Magic need a guard, specifically a PG.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I cant wait til the draft and free agency hollllly cow

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This, I been waiting for free agency this year ever since we traded Ariza and Mek lol

I doubt Marcus Smart is still available when we pick, but he's my #1. But Otto Porter is probably the favorite to be drafted by us. Smart though. That size, athleticism, strength. Oh my god. And his defense? It's fantastic.

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

Did anyone watch the Syr bs Georgetown game fully? Who did porter match up against and did he execute well?

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I watched most of it. Porter could've looked for his offense more if he wanted, but he choose to find every single gap in the 'Cuse 2-3 zone and facilitated, moving the ball. He pretty much locked up CJ Fair save for some crazy shots Fair made under duress.

All in all, it was the kinda game where guys get triple doubles, though he only scored like 10 points.