Pelicans to meet with Oden {EDIT-Oden chooses Miami,P.61}

We need a center though!

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

That makes sense. On a side note, I think we signed Stiemsma to cap space, so do we still have our room exception? It would make the rumors that we're offering Oden close to $3 million makes sense, because the room exception is something like $2.7 million.


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Got a post coming out in the morning.

Basically, the cap is flexible enough so that you can actually rearrange the order of transactions to help you, if it makes sense.

The signed Aminu into space, and will make the same offer to Oden it seems.

About the Bird Rights. Aminu never changed teams as a free agent, so the Pelicans have his rights. The were capped out on the ability to use the BR since they declined his option, but they still had them and still do.

As much as the fan in me wants Oden to be on the team and provide even 75% of his former self, the realist in me says that his injury history (and not just his knees) makes the chances of him playing even 50% of the games an unlikely scenario. But if Demps and Williams are willing to give the guy a shot, then who am I to disagree.

With a year off going into this season, and at this price... it's a good gamble.

the post on BSS contains an excellent explanation of the salary cap maneuvering necessary to come up with an offer
it continues to amaze me how complicated managing an NBA cap must be

BTW the writing on BSS has been phenomenal lately

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the post on BSS contains an excellent explanation of the salary cap maneuvering necessary to come up with an offer
it continues to amaze me how complicated managing an NBA cap must be

BTW the writing on BSS has been phenomenal lately

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The new CBA is so convaluted; there's so many exceptions to the rules it seems crazy.

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Originally Posted by cgrand

the post on BSS contains an excellent explanation of the salary cap maneuvering necessary to come up with an offer
it continues to amaze me how complicated managing an NBA cap must be

BTW the writing on BSS has been phenomenal lately

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Could you post a link to the article?

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the post on BSS contains an excellent explanation of the salary cap maneuvering necessary to come up with an offer
it continues to amaze me how complicated managing an NBA cap must be

BTW the writing on BSS has been phenomenal lately

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Agree 100%. Massive thanks to the writers, you guys rock and provide this South African Pellies fan with good material to read.

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Could you post a link to the article?

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Originally Posted by 42

Got a post coming out in the morning.

Basically, the cap is flexible enough so that you can actually rearrange the order of transactions to help you, if it makes sense.

The signed Aminu into space, and will make the same offer to Oden it seems.

About the Bird Rights. Aminu never changed teams as a free agent, so the Pelicans have his rights. The were capped out on the ability to use the BR since they declined his option, but they still had them and still do.

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What are you, a math professor or something? :hihi:

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Agree 100%. Massive thanks to the writers, you guys rock and provide this South African Pellies fan with good material to read.

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It's insane how great the coverage of BSS is. I've always been curious what it is about NBA that inspires such analytical/geeky/obsessive breakdowns/blogging/coverage. I don't mean that as an insult, only that the NFL is easily 3 or 4 times bigger than the NBA and it doesn't seem to have anywhere near the same devotion or obsessiveness in its analytical/Star Wars side of the fan base. Just an interesting phenomenon that I'd love to have somebody shed a light on. BSS is clearly the best Pelicans blog, but I'd argue that At the Hive also blows away ANY fan site that the Saints (10 times more popular than the Pellies are) have.

It seems like there's a huge void of intellectual/analytical Saints coverage out there (that goes for the entire NFL to be honest). Grantland has Barnwell, but he's not even as good as the BSS guys in my opinion.

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Thanks. Nice read

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It's insane how great the coverage of BSS is. I've always been curious what it is about NBA that inspires such analytical/geeky/obsessive breakdowns/blogging/coverage. I don't mean that as an insult, only that the NFL is easily 3 or 4 times bigger than the NBA and it doesn't seem to have anywhere near the same devotion or obsessiveness in its analytical/Star Wars side of the fan base. Just an interesting phenomenon that I'd love to have somebody shed a light on. BSS is clearly the best Pelicans blog, but I'd argue that At the Hive also blows away ANY fan site that the Saints (10 times more popular than the Pellies are) have.

It seems like there's a huge void of intellectual/analytical Saints coverage out there (that goes for the entire NFL to be honest). Grantland has Barnwell, but he's not even as good as the BSS guys in my opinion.

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Football is much more complex in my opinion and harder to predict.
But yes I agree, BSS has been awesome. They have really grown. I even can tolerate MM now lol. He use to bug me with his tone.

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Originally Posted by WisconsinHornet

It's insane how great the coverage of BSS is. I've always been curious what it is about NBA that inspires such analytical/geeky/obsessive breakdowns/blogging/coverage. I don't mean that as an insult, only that the NFL is easily 3 or 4 times bigger than the NBA and it doesn't seem to have anywhere near the same devotion or obsessiveness in its analytical/Star Wars side of the fan base. Just an interesting phenomenon that I'd love to have somebody shed a light on. BSS is clearly the best Pelicans blog, but I'd argue that At the Hive also blows away ANY fan site that the Saints (10 times more popular than the Pellies are) have.

It seems like there's a huge void of intellectual/analytical Saints coverage out there (that goes for the entire NFL to be honest). Grantland has Barnwell, but he's not even as good as the BSS guys in my opinion.

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I would think that a big part of that is that the NBA lends itself to analytics more than the NFL does. Nearly half of the offensive players in the NFL ever score any points, how can you be analytical with that? They can be graded sure, but how do you know for certain what their EXACT assignment was on a particular play. Baseball too lends itself to analytics. Football, not so much.

I'm thinking it's Holiday trade, Aminu and Stiemsma into cap space, Evans trade, Oden at the Mini MLE, then Morrow at vet minimum. That makes sense to me assuming we had enough cap space to sign Aminu and Stiemsma into.

Also assumes there's no crazy loophole that allows us to retain Aminu's bird rights like 42 alluded to, which I wouldn't think would be the case.

What does it say that oden went back home before meeting with us? So we send the whole front office to meet him and then he goes back to INdy? Did I read this correctly?

About the meeting, it may have been a reporting issue or he will return to Vegas... I wasn't clear on that. A special meeting last may show thst the earlier offers weren't showstopping, and Shakespeare says the final speech matters most.

About BSS coverage: Do what must be done.

About why Basketball: for me, I love them too much, I'd be in jail if I had to write about the Saints... to many idiot fans for a soul to tolerate en masse

Great article! Very interesting

Yeah, basketball analytics has exploded in recent years. Baseball is just as nerdy but that boom happened long before.

Football's harder to quantify with advanced stats because players are significantly more dependent on their situations/gameplan/surrounding cast than basketball or baseball players are to produce their stats, and you're talking about 1 out of 25-30 (more, maybe?) guys who impact who wins and loses on Sundays vs 1 of maybe 9-12. Plus you get tons of reps and games to evaluate for basketball/baseball; football you get 16 Sundays a year and the data mined from that is much more volatile.

Fewer real scoring opportunities, divided roles, various 'intents'ways of plays... all mess with it.

There are some good stats, like efficiency in terms of yards per point.

Great post on BSS! Helped clear a lot

Pelicans expect to meet free agent center Greg Oden next week, sources told Y! Sports. Pelicans poised to make offer close to $3 million.

— Marc J. Spears (@SpearsNBAYahoo) July 17, 2013

Looks like the meeting will be next week.

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Just read the BSS article and completely agree
on the thoroughness. These guys are killing it this offseason! 42/MM, I better not see a dip in fan interaction with the expected increase in readers/radio/TV spots! Truly love the work your team is doing!

Has he already met with the Spurs, heart and Mavs.