Free Agency Thread

Pelicans interested in Iman Shumpert.**https://t.co/JeICF1XnnF pic.twitter.com/l1NBgZcepe

— HoopsHype (@hoopshype) September 2, 2017

It's so early in the morning, and I find this. :\

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

Pelicans interested in Iman Shumpert.**https://t.co/JeICF1XnnF pic.twitter.com/l1NBgZcepe

— HoopsHype (@hoopshype) September 2, 2017

It's so early in the morning, and I find this. :\

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For a straight Asik swap? Ok sure. Lol.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

Pelicans interested in Iman Shumpert.**https://t.co/JeICF1XnnF pic.twitter.com/l1NBgZcepe

— HoopsHype (@hoopshype) September 2, 2017

It's so early in the morning, and I find this. :\

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Originally Posted by AusPel

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I know right!

As much as I don't care for Shumpert, he's better than having Asik take up space and not producing. At the same time, Shumpert scored almost the same amount of points as Solo. If we could drop Asik and get him, I'll pull the trigger.

Shumpert might fit in well. Isn't he a very good defender and a decent 3 point shooter?


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I like shumpert as our sf

He's a worse 3 pt shooter and defender than Hill.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

He's a worse 3 pt shooter and defender than Hill.

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This past season maybe, but not by much. He's been better in the past, could have a revival in a role here. He's also currently healthy while Hill isn't for awhile.

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Originally Posted by Rheem654

This past season maybe, but not by much. He's been better in the past, could have a revival in a role here. He's also currently healthy while Hill isn't for awhile.

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He's also extremely injury prone. There's a reason he's available. And it isn't because he's a good player. Unless Asik is moving out, there is no substance to this "rumor."

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

He's also extremely injury prone. There's a reason he's available. And it isn't because he's a good player. Unless Asik is moving out, there is no substance to this "rumor."

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Yea you're probably right, and can't see why they would take Asik, even with a pick, so that's probably out. And otherwise only matching salaries I see is centered around Moore, which even with his extra year of salary, is probably better than Shumpert at this point.

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Originally Posted by Rheem654

Yea you're probably right, and can't see why they would take Asik, even with a pick, so that's probably out. And otherwise only matching salaries I see is centered around Moore, which even with his extra year of salary, is probably better than Shumpert at this point.

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Moore is definitely better

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Moore is definitely better

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The thing is Shumpert came into the league looking like he might be a young Tony Allen. A real defensive force. And even though that seemingly faded, until last year he was still measuring very strongly defensively according to many metrics. Then last year happened, and abruptly he was mediocre on that end. It's important to understand the why of that change. He's injury prone and has had a series of major injuries keeping him out of extended stretches. If that has caught up with him physically, then maybe he isn't going to be an impact defender anymore. But on the other hand if it's not physical and he can recover his normal form, again, like Allen (although not as good of course) he's normally a MUCH better defender than E'Twaun Moore, who seems to be getting rather too much hometown credit during this search.

Same thing I did with Moore and Tony Allen here. According to ESPN's Defensive Real Plus Minus stats the last 4 years:


2016-17 Out of 94 players rated at SG:
31) Iman Shumpert -0.16
65) E'Twaun Moore -1.58

And in 2015-16:
8) Iman Shumpert 1.26
31) E'Twaun Moore -0.44

And in 2014-15:
8) Iman Shumpert 1.92
38) E'Twaun Moore -1.11

And in 2013-14:
4) Iman Shumpert 2.00
31) E'Twaun Moore -1.21

If you want to set a defensive tone, which any big man based team should, if you want to replace a defensive roleplayer like Solo (who was at a 1.49 DRPM last year), then getting a guy like the Iman Shumpert of years past might be a good step.

I agree with you. Iman Shumpert is an much better basketball player than Etwaun Moore. I've been confused by the hype on Moore...and Hill too. Shump is no All-Star, but his potential far outweighs the two players mentioned.

See my other post. He is not good at all

Peter Jok Signs Camp Deal With Suns
https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...Deal-With-Suns

New York Knicks and Jarrett Jack have agreed to a one-year, non-guaranteed deal, league sources told @BBallInsiders. http://hoopshype.com/storyline/jarre...k-free-agency/

The Bulls and Dwyane Wade have reached agreement on a buyout, per sources.

— K.C. Johnson (@KCJHoop) September 25, 2017

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The Bulls and Dwyane Wade have reached agreement on a buyout, per sources.

— K.C. Johnson (@KCJHoop) September 25, 2017

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Good update. Also, Pels signed Cliff Alexander to a training camp deal. Seems like a fairly athletic PF type.

Is Wade to the Cavs inevitable?

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Good update. Also, Pels signed Cliff Alexander to a training camp deal. Seems like a fairly athletic PF type.

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He's also got insane length despite being 6'8". Got like a 9'1" standing reach.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

Is Wade to the Cavs inevitable?

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Do they have any room to sign him? I thought they were way over the cap?

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Originally Posted by ozwego15

The Bulls and Dwyane Wade have reached agreement on a buyout, per sources.

— K.C. Johnson (@KCJHoop) September 25, 2017

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Can he play small forward?

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Do they have any room to sign him? I thought they were way over the cap?

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They are. Wade would have to sign for the vet minimum to minimize the cap ramifications. His salary is likely less important to him than it would usually be given the additional money he received from his buyout, which from reports looks to be around $15m. Cavs management has shown repeatedly a willingness to spend above and beyond to compete for a championship. And of course he and LeBron are besties. The fit makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Rheem654

Good update. Also, Pels signed Cliff Alexander to a training camp deal. Seems like a fairly athletic PF type.

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Shocked that J.Smith didn't make the camp :rolleyes: