2013 Playoffs Discussion Thread

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Kobe Averages 36.65 MPG over his entire Career. This year he averaged 38.6 MPG. Any other "proof"?

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Dantoni limited him in many games to rest him. It was talked about all season long. So what your saying is u would take the Kobe of now rather Kobe in 2003-05?? Right??

I hope someone on San antonio has a brainfart and fouls curry.

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

I wanna shoot the screaming lady

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So she'll scream more?

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Originally Posted by DarthVegito

Look man before you say stuff please know what your saying. His minutes have not declined at all. His career MPG is about 36.5 if I remember right and this season he averaged right around 38.5 MPG. That's called "INCREASE". Not decline.

Your debating two completely different things as well. You keep asking if we'd take Rose to start a team, or if we'd rather younger Kobe than older Kobe. Those questions make no sense. Not a single person said we would take old guys to start a franchise. That would just be ridiculous and probably get us fired pretty quick. We(I) am simply saying Kobe has not declined yet and his play on the courts and his efficiancy and stats prove that. Plain and simple.

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The rose starting up a franchise is a whole other discussion me and him were having other than this wade and Kobe declining talk. So maybe u should know what all is being talked about before telling me I should know what I'm talking about. Yea?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Dantoni limited him in many games to rest him. It was talked about all season long. So what your saying is u would take the Kobe of now rather Kobe in 2003-05?? Right??

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Opposite of the facts.

Opposite.

Not just wrong.

Opposite.

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Terrible play by Mark Jackson there. No one outside of Curry has any business taking that last shot with 1.2 seconds left.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

The rose starting up a franchise is a whole other discussion me and him were having other than this wade and Kobe declining talk. So maybe u should know what all is being talked about before telling me I should know what I'm talking about. Yea?

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No. you keep swerving so you can possibly hope to accidentally find a position that is supportable.

Jack is pretty clutch though can't fault. Curry was being held like crazy

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

The rose starting up a franchise is a whole other discussion me and him were having other than this wade and Kobe declining talk. So maybe u should know what all is being talked about before telling me I should know what I'm talking about. Yea?

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You keep moving the target.
Now you've moved the target again to which Kobe would I take. I'll answer it for you. I would take ANY Kobe over Rose.

Alright have fun guys. When Kobe retires after another year or 2. I guess we will all be saying why did he retire before he hit his peak years?? I'm sure the whole sports world will be talking about that. Ehhh actually no they won't but I guess there are 2-3 ppl on this forum that will be.:hihi:

Ok i want to die now. Thanks RJ for missing those free throws.

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Originally Posted by 42

So she'll scream more?

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LOL

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

You keep moving the target.
Now you've moved the target again to which Kobe would I take. I'll answer it for you. I would take ANY Kobe over Rose.

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Dude the rose talk and taking him over Kobe or wade had absolutely NOTHING to do with me saying them guys are in the declining stages of their careers.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

The rose starting up a franchise is a whole other discussion me and him were having other than this wade and Kobe declining talk. So maybe u should know what all is being talked about before telling me I should know what I'm talking about. Yea?

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Well any Kobe outside of his first 4 years. But since they weren't at his peak, they were his decline??

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

Jack is pretty clutch though can't fault. Curry was being held like crazy

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Jack isn't the type you give the ball to with 1 second left. He's a guy you give the ball to with 5+ seconds left. Jack is at his best when he's isolated and has the time to create. Far better than a catch a shoot type which was the scenario there.

I would say Oladipo is ahead of where Leonard was leaving college which is scary.

This draft is going to produce like 10 stud players and everybody will be wondering how the hell called it the weakest draft in 2 decades.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

You keep moving the target.
Now you've moved the target again to which Kobe would I take. I'll answer it for you. I would take ANY Kobe over Rose.

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:hihi: Great answer! Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Originally Posted by 42

Opposite of the facts.

Opposite.

Not just wrong.

Opposite.

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Ok dantoni never had multiple press conferences saying he was worried about playing. Him too much and wanted to rest him. Cause he's older and needs it. I must of dreamed them up.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Well any Kobe outside of his first 4 years. But since they weren't at his peak, they were his decline??

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Yes. If u hit your peak and are no longer at your peak then your on the decline. A peak is the highest level. It's downhill from there. Is it not?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Dude the rose talk and taking him over Kobe or wade had absolutely NOTHING to do with me saying them guys are in the declining stages of their careers.

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Yes it did. After I ranked my top 5, you "C'mon man"'d me about picking Wade and Bryant "at this stage of their careers" (Which you are saying is the decline).

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

C'mon man wade and Bryant at this stage of their careers?? Now I believe u have it out for rose lol like i said above not 1 gm would trade rose for those 2 players right now WITHOUT seeing him perform, which we haven't. And I'm not sure where u get that he's not a good defender. He's a lil bulldog on defense. He hustles his azz off on both ends of the floor. I'm really shocked that u guys don't have rose as a top tier guy. But everyone has their opinions.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Yes. If u hit your peak and are no longer at your peak then your on the decline. A peak is the highest level. It's downhill from there. Is it not?

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Peak of what? Athletic ability or production?

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I would say Oladipo is ahead of where Leonard was leaving college which is scary.

This draft is going to produce like 10 stud players and everybody will be wondering how the hell called it the weakest draft in 2 decades.

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But Oladipo was more experienced and older coming out than Leonard. Compare them as a sophomore and same age and its no comparison.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Ok dantoni never had multiple press conferences saying he was worried about playing. Him too much and wanted to rest him. Cause he's older and needs it. I must of dreamed them up.

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I would say check the FACTS but this would be a total waste.

Are you aware that the words that come out of people's mouth can represent idea that need not have come to pass, will come to pass, or even be able to come to pass in this wide world of ours?

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Peak of what? Athletic ability or production?

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Peak oil.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Ok dantoni never had multiple press conferences saying he was worried about playing. Him too much and wanted to rest him. Cause he's older and needs it. I must of dreamed them up.

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He talked about it but he never did anything about it.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

He talked about it but he never did anything about it.

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Ding!

You can see alot just by watching.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Yes it did. After I ranked my top 5, you "C'mon man"'d me about picking Wade and Bryant "at this stage of their careers" (Which you are saying is the decline).

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Ok your misunderstanding me. What i mean is it is 2 separate discussions in itself.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Ok dantoni never had multiple press conferences saying he was worried about playing. Him too much and wanted to rest him. Cause he's older and needs it. I must of dreamed them up.

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What about an average do you not understand. You can talk about being worried about minutes but when he plays more than his average, your point about him "not being able to play more minutes" is wrong. He not only COULD play more minutes. He DID.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

He talked about it but he never did anything about it.

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Yep sure did. And how did Kobe finish the season?? Oh that's right.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Ok dantoni never had multiple press conferences saying he was worried about playing. Him too much and wanted to rest him. Cause he's older and needs it. I must of dreamed them up.

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Actually you are wrong on this one. D'antoni kept getting much criticism about Kobe playing more minutes than he's played in years. Media mostly saying that Kobe needed the rest and shouldn't be playing so many minutes. He was forced to address the issue he kept getting questioned about. Kobe NEVER said he needed less minutes and D'antoni NEVER said Kobe needed less minutes. And at no point could D'antoni have limited those minutes anyway. He proved he could handle it and had one of his best seasons ever.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

What about an average do you not understand. You can talk about being worried about minutes but when he plays more than his average, your point about him "not being able to play more minutes" is wrong. He not only COULD play more minutes. He DID.

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And like I said look where it got him

average = overage = too old = decline

that is the logic being presented as I see it.

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Originally Posted by 42

Peak oil.

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:hihi:

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Yep sure did. And how did Kobe finish the season?? Oh that's right.

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What on earth are you even trying to imply?

They popped his tendon to limit his minutes?

Is everyone looking at this"?

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Originally Posted by DarthVegito

Actually you are wrong on this one. D'antoni kept getting much criticism about Kobe playing more minutes than he's played in years. Media mostly saying that Kobe needed the rest and shouldn't be playing so many minutes. He was forced to address the issue he kept getting questioned about. Kobe NEVER said he needed less minutes and D'antoni NEVER said Kobe needed less minutes. And at no point could D'antoni have limited those minutes anyway. He proved he could handle it and had one of his best seasons ever.

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And like I just said 3 times. Look where it got him. He's old and only has a year or 2 left guys face it. But yet he is still peaking. I'd love to have this conversation with basketball analyst and see how hard they laugh when u guys try n convince them how wade and Kobe aren't in the declining stages of their careers.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

And like I said look where it got him

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:hihi: You're just spitting random crap out now.

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Originally Posted by 42

What on earth are you even trying to imply?

They popped his tendon to limit his minutes?

Is everyone looking at this"?

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What I'm saying is with better rest he probably could of avoided injury.

So, we've pretty much saw GSW best tonight... at least on the offensive side. If GSW want to get back into the series, they better learn how to close games. You can certainly believe that this was not San Antonio's best game... and yet they pulled it out.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

And like I just said 3 times. Look where it got him. He's old and only has a year or 2 left guys face it. But yet he is still peaking. I'd love to have this conversation with basketball analyst and see how hard they laugh when u guys try n convince them how wade and Kobe aren't in the declining stages of their careers.

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Was Rose's injury because of playing too many minutes? Or just Kobe?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

What I'm saying is with better rest he probably could of avoided injury.

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Did that help Rose? Do you have a medical background?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

And like I just said 3 times. Look where it got him. He's old and only has a year or 2 left guys face it. But yet he is still peaking. I'd love to have this conversation with basketball analyst and see how hard they laugh when u guys try n convince them how wade and Kobe aren't in the declining stages of their careers.

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Peaking like in his career? Peaking like between the sheets in Denver?

Peekling like peek-a-boo I see you?

piquing like awakening interest sharply?

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

:hihi: You're just spitting random crap out now.

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If he was tested better he couldn't have lasted longer?? Look at spurs aging guys. They get much rest and are balling rt now injury free. Rest does wonders for older guys.

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Originally Posted by 42

What on earth are you even trying to imply?

They popped his tendon to limit his minutes?

Is everyone looking at this"?

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Not only am I looking, but this is perhaps the most entertainment I've had all week... finals :crytear:

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

If he was tested better he couldn't have lasted longer?? Look at spurs aging guys. They get much rest and are balling rt now injury free. Rest does wonders for older guys.

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Being serious?

Tony Parker JUST came back from Injury. Manu is still injured.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

What I'm saying is with better rest he probably could of avoided injury.

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Actually you didn't say that until just now. Before that you were babbling, or maybe just randomly choosing words that looked pretty next to each other.

With all rest he'd never be injured.

What about Rose? If he had Kobe's rest and put it on with his rest he'd be back and beat LeBron and be one of 6 top 3 players, right?

Dude Achilles injuries are some of the most freak injuries there are. Just stop please. Your just looking foolish now.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Not only am I looking, but this is perhaps the most entertainment I've had all week... finals :crytear:

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Got your back, slim.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Did that help Rose? Do you have a medical background?

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Nah Im not a md. And I have no clue if he avoids it. I said probably. Meaning maybe?? Back to the og subject tho. Kobe and wade still have their best years ahead of them according to you. And that in itself is laughable.