Davis hasn't gained (significant) weight since being drafted

Fun story :
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--ho...013933022.html

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Despite the calories and carbohydrates acquired with each meat lover's slice, Davis, a slender 6-foot-11, 220-pounder, has not gained much weight since being drafted No. 1 overall last year. Davis says his high metabolism is keeping him from picking up pounds.

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Interesting

"Boozer made a point of trying to hurt him, basically," Williams said. "He just tried to smash him every play. I thought, 'This could be ugly for him if he doesn't get stronger.' I started talking to him about, 'Right now you have to use your quickness because you can't out-strength these guys.'

Dude he has gained weight, only some, it's a slow process, misleading thread title

No it clearly says he didn't.

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An extra 15 pounds of muscle, including around seven in the upcoming offseason, is Williams' target for Davis.

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Confirmation boys. We now know what the team is planning for Davis and it looks like they don't want him to gain too much weight.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

No it clearly says he didn't.

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It says he has not gained "MUCH" weight, what are u not understanding? No weight and much weight are different, if I was 6"11 and gained 5 pounds i would consider that not much weight.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Confirmation boys. We now know what the team is planning for Davis and it looks like they don't want him to gain too much weight.

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Exactly why I posted it. We discuss this so much !

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Davis, whose weight training regimen includes lifting on game days, has been as high as 226 pounds this season, says Daniel.

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He gained weight. He's just isn't maintaining it due to his metabolism.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

It says he has not gained "MUCH" weight, what are u not understanding? No weight and much weight are different, if I was 6"11 and gained 5 pounds i would consider that not much weight.

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Jesus Christ this board is nauseating. Like you want to argue over this ? Argue with yourself man. Take your apprehension elsewhere. It was a fun story, as i said in the original post and i posted it. Sorry he may have gained a few ounces in the last hour and it's not scientifically accurate.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

He gained weight. He's just isn't maintaining it due to his metabolism.

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Exactly.

He has gained some muscle from his Kentucky days, he no longer wear short sleeves. Gaining weight is not easy as I am trying at school weightlifting three days a week. It take a while.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Jesus Christ this board is nauseating. Like you want to argue over this ? Argue with yourself man. Take your apprehension elsewhere. Also, looking at your post and vocabulary, I would think you're the last person that should be attacking someone's diction. It was a fun story, as i said in the original post and i posted it. Sorry he may have gained a few ounces in the last hour and it's not scientifically accurate.

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Pointing out that unhave a very misleading thread title and then u go at me about other posts? Those other posts weren't arguing what we are arguing here, point is some weight and no weight are different, if u dont see that ur ignorant, he gained weight and its hard to keep thru the season, it happens to everyone.

How can u say he didnt gain weit look at how much muscle tone he has now

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Pointing out that unhave a very misleading thread title and then u go at me about other posts? Those other posts weren't arguing what we are arguing here, point is some weight and no weight are different, if u dont see that ur ignorant, he gained weight and its hard to keep thru the season, it happens to everyone.

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Dear Board moderator,

Can you please change my title from "NO" to "Some". Please and thank you.

Are we done with this bs and can we discuss the topic ?

Also have to take into account that he's still getting taller AND you can't really keep up weight training during the season like talking about.

Just want people to be ready and not freak out if at the end of summer you only see more muscle definition than weight gained.. Especially if he grows another half inch.

I thought the article was very encouraging honestly. They have a plan and its pretty transparent. I've always thought Aldridge was a good comparison.

They better not rush weight on him. I wouldn't expect to see anything significant for another 4 years when he's about 24. Wanting him to add 15 pounds over one summer might be a bit unnatural and make him prone to injury.

Guys he just turned 20 right? He is young and has a high metabolism. Will slow down eventually as he gets older.

Send him down the Kripy Kreme as Chuck would say, that'll put a few pounds on him lol

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Originally Posted by Smow-

Send him down the Kripy Kreme as Chuck would say, that'll put a few pounds on him lol

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No. They're trying to get him on an appropriate diet. They're not trying to get him to gain fat, they're trying to get him to gain mass and muscle mass.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

No. They're trying to get him on an appropriate diet. They're not trying to get him to gain fat, they're trying to get him to gain mass and muscle mass.

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i think it was a joke...

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

No. They're trying to get him on an appropriate diet. They're not trying to get him to gain fat, they're trying to get him to gain mass and muscle mass.

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Lol

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

No. They're trying to get him on an appropriate diet. They're not trying to get him to gain fat, they're trying to get him to gain mass and muscle mass.

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Lol

The author of this article obviously has never tried to put on muscle. It is literally impossible to gain muscle during the season. Davis doesn't have the down time to train properly and rest/repair. His metabolism is through the roof right now trying to take on an 82 game season for the 1st time. Once things slow down, and he isn't playing a game every other day, he'll put on muscle no problem.

People don't realize that there are 2 phases: gaining and cutting. You can't do both. Right now, Davis' body is in cutting mode, but this off season, he'll be able to go into gaining mode. He'll also be eating a lot more, which is really the only way go gain mass.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

No. They're trying to get him on an appropriate diet. They're not trying to get him to gain fat, they're trying to get him to gain mass and muscle mass.

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Obviously, Krispy Kreme isn't the way to go, but I would wager that Davis will be taking in around 6,000 calories this off season trying to gain weight. Because his metabolism is so high, he needs A LOT of calories. Body builders consume around 8,000 calories per day. A buddy of mine gained 30 lbs over 1 summer eating 8,000 calories per day, with out the use of HGH or steroids. True story. Davis can put on 15-20 lbs this summer, but he can't do it during the season.

Almost always, when you add muscle, you add a little fat, but what little fat he puts on this off season trying to gain weight, he'll cut in 2-3 weeks during training camp/pre-season.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Obviously, Krispy Kreme isn't the way to go, but I would wager that Davis will be taking in around 6,000 calories this off season trying to gain weight. Because his metabolism is so high, he needs A LOT of calories. Body builders consume around 8,000 calories per day. A buddy of mine gained 30 lbs over 1 summer eating 8,000 calories per day, with out the use of HGH or steroids. True story. Davis can put on 15-20 lbs this summer, but he can't do it during the season.

Almost always, when you add muscle, you add a little fat, but what little fat he puts on this off season trying to gain weight, he'll cut in 2-3 weeks during training camp/pre-season.

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Nice info slim. Now that I'm done "gaining", I should start cutting. HAHAHA

But seriously, Slim's info is really helpful. Hopefully, the cutting part is part of the Hornets process, not just the "gaining" part

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Originally Posted by nikkoewan

Nice info slim. Now that I'm done "gaining", I should start cutting. HAHAHA

But seriously, Slim's info is really helpful. Hopefully, the cutting part is part of the Hornets process, not just the "gaining" part

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No prob man. I used to be way into it, but it's a tough lifestyle, and it's really difficult to keep your gains. If you watch football players a lot of times, they'll brag about how they put on 10-15 lbs this summer, but they lose half of it after training camp (at least). That's why guys have a weight they come into the season at, and then they have their "playing weight."

Assuming Davis puts on 20 lbs this off season, he'll lose 10 of it once the season is underway. It's just the nature of the game. That said, I don't want him to gain too quickly. I think 240 would be a great weight for him, and he can get there comfortably by 2015 no problem.

I wish i had his methabolism

I don't care if he bulks up at all as long as he gets stronger, which he will with age. Part of his game is being sneaky and slippery which bulking up would hurt.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

No it clearly says he didn't.

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Muscle is gained during the summer when you can get into the gym and lift weights everyday. Not during the season.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Muscle is gained during the summer when you can get into the gym and lift weights everyday. Not during the season.

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Never said it is ?

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Never said it is ?

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OK just not understanding the thread then. Carry on.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

OK just not understanding the thread then. Carry on.

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It was just to post the article. Read it, it's a good read.

God, I wish I could take in 6000 calories and not blimp up.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

The author of this article obviously has never tried to put on muscle. It is literally impossible to gain muscle during the season. Davis doesn't have the down time to train properly and rest/repair. His metabolism is through the roof right now trying to take on an 82 game season for the 1st time. Once things slow down, and he isn't playing a game every other day, he'll put on muscle no problem.

People don't realize that there are 2 phases: gaining and cutting. You can't do both. Right now, Davis' body is in cutting mode, but this off season, he'll be able to go into gaining mode. He'll also be eating a lot more, which is really the only way go gain mass.

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Good point and good post

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Originally Posted by Kurgan

I wish i had his methabolism

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Right? I'm making up for those pizzas he can't eat.

I can gain weight during the season pretty well :hihi:

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I can gain weight during the season pretty well :hihi:

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You have a talent :hihi:

I SAW HIM AT BUFFALO WILD WINGS NOT LONG AGO!!! TOO MUCH OF THAT WILL ADD WEIGHT.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

It was just to post the article. Read it, it's a good read.

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I read it before I posted.

He isn't skinny because he doesn't eat enough. He's skinny because he's just a kid and he's had a recent growth spurt.

They can play with his diet all they want. He will naturally gain weight over the course of the next 3-5 years before he probably reaches a stable playing weight. Anyone who thought he was going to put on 35# of muscle this season and offseason were kidding themselves.

By the time he's 24 he'll be in the 250-260 range. That just nature taking its course. Push it any faster and he's going to end up injured.

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Originally Posted by Saints#34

He isn't skinny because he doesn't eat enough. He's skinny because he's just a kid and he's had a recent growth spurt.

They can play with his diet all they want. He will naturally gain weight over the course of the next 3-5 years before he probably reaches a stable playing weight. Anyone who thought he was going to put on 35# of muscle this season and offseason were kidding themselves.

By the time he's 24 he'll be in the 250-260 range. That just nature taking its course. Push it any faster and he's going to end up injured.

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Yeah people keep talking about weight gain like it's a matter of fact type of deal. He may not be able to gain significant weight at 24-25. It's a mix bag no two people are the same. Honestly I'm not sure how much the organization should rush the weight gain. Tacking on too much too soon could adversely impact his athleticism.

Mwahaha I was right

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Yeah people keep talking about weight gain like it's a matter of fact type of deal. He may not be able to gain significant weight at 24-25. It's a mix bag no two people are the same. Honestly I'm not sure how much the organization should rush the weight gain. Tacking on too much too soon could adversely impact his athleticism.

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I don't think 7 pounds an off season for this and next year is too much. That brings him to around 240 which is ideal, in my opinion. I agree, I don't want Dwight Howard 2.0. I want an athletic big man that can compete in the changing NBA Scene.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

I don't think 7 pounds an off season for this and next year is too much. That brings him to around 240 which is ideal, in my opinion. I agree, I don't want Dwight Howard 2.0. I want an athletic big man that can compete in the changing NBA Scene.

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No it's not, but my point is you can't "set your watch to it" so to speak. He may not be able to retain weight the majority of his career who knows? The focus should be getting him stronger which is far more controllable than weight gain. Which I'm 100% sure they're doing with Davis in conjunction with the weight gain regiment.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

No it's not, but my point is you can't "set your watch to it" so to speak. He may not be able to retain weight the majority of his career who knows? The focus should be getting him stronger which is far more controllable than weight gain. Which I'm 100% sure they're doing with Davis in conjunction with the weight gain regiment.

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Is muscle not mass?

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Is muscle not mass?

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Not necessarily. You can have people be lean and strong. Swimmer for example have a lot of strength with little mass. It's why Tim Duncan has been strong but not really bulky. Kevin Garnett is another player that's slender but strong. I believe Wilt Chamberlin was of the slender but freakishly strong mold also.

Let's put it this way. You know the Mr. Olympia bodybuilder dudes? With the super big muscles and all that? Notice how actual Olympic weight lifters NEVER look like that. Big, fluffy muscles? Not condusive to generating power. What you want AD to have is the dense, tension wire muscles that let AD stay quick and strong enough to finish through contact.

AND, I hope he gets this, he needs to build up his lower body as much if not more so than his upper body. You don't back people down with your biceps afterall.

What player gains weight during the season? It's like some people never watched basketball.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

What player gains weight during the season? It's like some people never watched basketball.

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Eddy Curry lol:hihi: