Interesting stuff from Monty

Monty: "You'd be amazed at how many free agents walk over (in-game), tap me on the hip and say, Coach, don't forget about me this summer!"

— Jim Eichenhofer (@Jim_Eichenhofer) April 2, 2013

Monty cited reasons why he believes team will attract free agents, incl. NOLA uniqueness, practice facility, owner's passion, being in South

— Jim Eichenhofer (@Jim_Eichenhofer) April 2, 2013

Monty: "We don’t want to ever settle for being in this position. Next year we want to be knocking on the door trying to make the playoffs."

— Jim Eichenhofer (@Jim_Eichenhofer) April 2, 2013

Monty Williams on team's big picture: "We’re going to evaluate that this summer. Because there’s a great chance our team could change again"

— Jim Eichenhofer (@Jim_Eichenhofer) April 2, 2013

Teachable moments with hornets coach Monty Williams twitter.com/juankinc4/stat…

— juan kincaid (@juankinc4) April 2, 2013

Very nice.

I hope one of them was Brewer.

Hold up! You mean to tell me, we will now attract free agents because of our location and city, and we couldn't when we had CHRIS PAUL!!! The second most unselfish superstar after LeBron? Come on Monty. We get FA's when we overpay. See Peja. See Nnamdi still ain't picked our football team yet and the Saints have a TITLE! It's gonna come down to money. Always have and always will.

People saying "remember me this summer." Ha ha ha ha ha!

Yeah, whatever. Most likely over the hill Vets looking for a fool to give them that one last big contract.

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Hmm who should I trust. Some fan or the guy that got tapped on the shoulder. So tough.

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Originally Posted by kidjock24

Hold up! You mean to tell me, we will now attract free agents because of our location and city, and we couldn't when we had CHRIS PAUL!!! The second most unselfish superstar after LeBron? Come on Monty. We get FA's when we overpay. See Peja. See Nnamdi still ain't picked our football team yet and the Saints have a TITLE! It's gonna come down to money. Always have and always will.

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The situation is totally different then when CP3 was here. We have a owner, a long term lease, new practice facility, renovations to the arena. Plus we have some nice pieces with money to spend, and a lot of players like Monty and Dell. And you bring up Nnamdi as one example but do you know how many players take pay cuts to come play for the Saints.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Hmm who should I trust. Some fan or the guy that got tapped on the shoulder. So tough.

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Both. He didnt give names as to the players tapping his shoulders, and we didnt exactly have the world beating down our doors this past summer when we had money.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans_fan_504

The situation is totally different then when CP3 was here. We have a owner, a long term lease, new practice facility, renovations to the arena. Plus we have some nice pieces with money to spend, and a lot of players like Monty and Dell. And you bring up Nnamdi as one example but do you know how many players take pay cuts to come play for the Saints.

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Good question, do you know how many players take pay cuts to come play for the Saints?

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Originally Posted by kidjock24

Hold up! You mean to tell me, we will now attract free agents because of our location and city, and we couldn't when we had CHRIS PAUL!!! The second most unselfish superstar after LeBron? Come on Monty. We get FA's when we overpay. See Peja. See Nnamdi still ain't picked our football team yet and the Saints have a TITLE! It's gonna come down to money. Always have and always will.

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Yeah, we really overpaid for that Ryan Anderson character. Same deal with that Lopez guy. What in the world was Dell thinking!?!?!?

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Both. He didnt give names as to the players tapping his shoulders, and we didnt exactly have the world beating down our doors this past summer when we had money.

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That would be illegal.... You are just being cynical.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Good question, do you know how many players take pay cuts to come play for the Saints?

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Answer: All of them (including Brees, who could have asked for even more than he did).

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Both. He didnt give names as to the players tapping his shoulders, and we didnt exactly have the world beating down our doors this past summer when we had money.

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Why can't both be the case? We have a nice young core, great city and tons of money.

Just sayin.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Yeah, we really overpaid for that Ryan Anderson character. Same deal with that Lopez guy. What in the world was Dell thinking!?!?!?

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That would be illegal.... You are just being cynical.



Answer: All of them (including Brees, who could have asked for even more than he did).

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I am not being cynical. I am going off of past precedent. Nothing cynical about calling it what it is.

Brees took a pay cut to play for the Saints? That pay cut sure is balling the Saints now huh? The only guy in Sports who has taken a pay cut to play for a team is LBJ. NPR did an article about him last month. When he left Cleveland the franchise dropped in value by 20% while Miami's franchise went up 20%. Now that's a guy being underpaid.

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Originally Posted by kidjock24

we will now attract free agents because of our location and city.

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NO still can't compete with the Glamor Markets, but it's surely better than Detroit, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Toronto, etc.

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It's gonna come down to money. Always have and always will.

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Money and Minutes are the top factors, but when similar offers are on the table then organization and location will become factors.

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Most likely over the hill Vets looking for a fool to give them that one last big contract.

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Yeah, I can't imagine a guy at the top of the FA list will be campaigning. But the Saints have developed a reputation for letting the best players play regardless of draft position, which probably puts them at the top of the list for UDFAs, I'm sure the stories of Vasquez, Lopez, Thomas and Roberts will help the Pelicans have their pick of guys wanting to prove themselves, which isn't a bad thing if you know how to pick the guys that are both hungry and good.

[QUOTE=UNO Gracias;1058784]I am not being cynical. I am going off of past precedent. Nothing cynical about calling it what it is.
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Last year was a bad year for anyone to want to come here, but we still got Anderson (who wasn't exactly going to blow up free agency but still a valueable addition). I don't think Monty is lying, and i think you're saying he's full of bull? Saying he's making a bold face lie to look good. Why would he bring it up to lie about it? Doesn't seem like that type of man. I also don't doubt some mid level guys are wanting to come here. Monty has a very good rep with his players and former players. It's things like we did for Jack and even Paul (sending him to a favorable situation that he'd be happy with) that get good marks from players.

In all fairness when Chris Paul was here we had the amazing George Shinn and Jeff Bower running the show followed up by the mastermind GM and Owner by the name of......*crickets*.... Now i can see why people would want to come to NoLa, we have a likeable coach and owner who is the complete oppposite of Shinn, new facilities and most important factor to me is that not only do we have a FRANCHISE young baller BUT he is the type of player that will not try to command all of the shine. Other stars can come in and produce at a high/higher level because the number two guy is a player that doesnt even have to have sets run just for him and will still put up solid numbers at the end of the night

Why would he bring it up that kind of answer? Why would the reporter ask that sort of question? Are the fans feeling a bit restless and feeling uneasy about the man at the helm?

I am just saying, if he is looking to temper the waters, those are great responses, but if we come up short on free agent signings fans will probably be more vocal. Or maybe they won't.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Why would he bring it up that kind of answer? Why would the reporter ask that sort of question? Are the fans feeling a bit restless and feeling uneasy about the man at the helm?

I am just saying, if he is looking to temper the waters, those are great responses, but if we come up short on free agent signings fans will probably be more vocal. Or maybe they won't.

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Let's not assume we know the context that made Monty say this. We don't know exactly what the reporter asked Monty.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Good question, do you know how many players take pay cuts to come play for the Saints?

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Every single player they have signed this offseason was offered more elsewhere.


Brees did get too greedy for my taste, but still could've asked for a lot more. Hell now Romo has the same deal as Brees.

I do not follow. So since we aren't sure of the context we shouldn't predict we know the truthfulness in his words? Ask me if I am a Lakers fan at gun point and I will say what you want. Get me when a gun isn't pointed at me, and I will tell you no.

I will wait til the summer to eat my crow.

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Originally Posted by Soundwave

Every single player they have signed this offseason was offered more elsewhere.


Brees did get too greedy for my taste, but still could've asked for a lot more. Hell now Romo has the same deal as Brees.

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Butler, Coleman, McCown, and Watson were offered more elsewhere? Can we see reports of this or is this one of those " take my word" type deals?

If I know I'll be looking for a job this summer, you can bet I'd give a tap to the coach of any team that has a bunch of cap space and big fancy new practice facility. All the other stuff (good coach, up and coming team) is lagniappe when I'm trying to get paid.

I forgot about McCown, but Lewis, Butler, and Watson have all said so in interviews.

Lol why can't people want to come here now? Maybe it's more than what he said to it than just our city. We have AD and a team with potential plus Monty is well liked and respected. He did say he basically talked Ryno into coming here, he had to say more than what is being quoted right even though it could play into it.

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Originally Posted by Soundwave

I forgot about McCown, but Lewis, Butler, and Watson have all said so in interviews.

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I believe the Lewis part, but Butler peddled his wears in 7 NFL cities before he decided on us. Watson, he is at the end of a great career. With every NFL team being cash strapped I am sure he took less.. He didnt have any other options throwing money at him that provided the same chance to win.

Either way, I need to see it to believe it. Half of our roster probably won't be here in a year so it's hard to sell " we have a team full of potential" other than the potential of your teammates not being here in a year.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I do not follow. So since we aren't sure of the context we shouldn't predict we know the truthfulness in his words? Ask me if I am a Lakers fan at gun point and I will say what you want. Get me when a gun isn't pointed at me, and I will tell you no.

I will wait til the summer to eat my crow.

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What did the reporter ask Monty?

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Originally Posted by HunnyB

What did the reporter ask Monty?

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What did he ask, and why?

I could see young guys in bad situations (Like Phoenix and Sacramento) perhaps being excited at the prospect of joining our squad. New owner, lots of potential as a squad, minutes to be earned and most importantly a ton of cap. Plus Monty is a really solid guy who treats his players right, and when you treat people right then word gets around.

I could see this. Its fun to think about.

Context.

He sounds like he truly believes they can attract free agents. I think if he didn't, he probably would've said something like "Well, I'd like to believe we can so I guess we'll see". :cool:

Yeah that wasn't some scripted thing, he was talking about how the guys interrupted him trying to coach defense during a game to come over and say it :hihi:

come on down brandon jennings!

I wouldn't be surprised it Monty slightly exaggerated in an effort to motivate the guys on the current roster.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

I could see young guys in bad situations (Like Phoenix and Sacramento) perhaps being excited at the prospect of joining our squad. New owner, lots of potential as a squad, minutes to be earned and most importantly a ton of cap. Plus Monty is a really solid guy who treats his players right, and when you treat people right then word gets around.

I could see this. Its fun to think about.

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This is how I feel. The Hornets are known give every player regardless of status a fair shot. Guys who are buried on a deep bench or a poorly coached team will be looking for an opportunity to get a shot at meaningful playing time and the Hornets are a prime destination for hungry players looking for an opportunity.

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Originally Posted by HunnyB

Context.

He sounds like he truly believes they can attract free agents.

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Truly.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Both. He didnt give names as to the players tapping his shoulders, and we didnt exactly have the world beating down our doors this past summer when we had money.

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Team had a solid owner for how long at that point? 3 months? Gordon's future was uncertain and Ryan Anderson sure is chopped liver.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Good question, do you know how many players take pay cuts to come play for the Saints?

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Seems like the Saints sign 90% of the free agents they want. Darren Sproles, Curtis Lofton, Jon Vilma, Darren Sharper, Jabari Greer, Abrayo Franklin, Ben Grubbs to name a few. The last thing they do with any of them is overspend.

It's as simple as seeing the results this summer. Personally, I am not overly optimistic that key top notch FAs are telling Monty this, but let's see what happens this summer.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

It's as simple as seeing the results this summer. Personally, I am not overly optimistic that key top notch FAs are telling Monty this, but let's see what happens this summer.

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No one said they were top notch.

Nobody said they were young, or good. People are apparently just reminding Monty to look their way during free agency.

The practice facility seems to be coming along pretty quick.

Any pics? Can't wait to see it.

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

Any pics? Can't wait to see it.

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Someone on Hornets Talk posted a pic

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Originally Posted by Pelicans_fan_504

Someone on Hornets Talk posted a pic

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someone on Hornets Talk suggest Gordon and our 1st for Rose..

I stopped lurking after that point.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

someone on Hornets Talk suggest Gordon and our 1st for Rose..

I stopped lurking after that point.

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Good God Stern would't allow it.

id do gordon and our first for rose in a heartbeat

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

id do gordon and our first for rose in a heartbeat

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no ****...

So would the Bulls if they all wanted to be fire... it's stupid.

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

Good God Stern would't allow it.

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Stern wouldn't do anything. The bulls wouldn't allow it.

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

Any pics? Can't wait to see it.

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I have confidence in Monty, Dell, and Mr. Benson and we will attract some good players next year, that's why i upgraded my season tickets because i just have that feeling next year is really going to be special.

Just wish the fan base was stronger. However, I have no room to talk because I rarely go to games as I can't afford to go.

Stronger in not only in numbers but also less bandwagon and more for the enjoyment of rooting for your team.

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Thats not were we originally thought it would be at, is it?