Say Griff decides this aint our time and looks to the future and bringing in another young piece, what would you think of something based around:
Adams & Lonzo for Wiseman & Wiggins
Wiseman seems to have legit range and speed and skills, just needs experience and time to play smarter. Wiggins is a bad contract but thats the price you pay for getting a #2 pick as a rookie.
Pels roll out:
Wiseman / Hayes
Zion / Melli
Ingram / Wiggins
Hart / NAW
Bledsoe / Kira
Golden State Deal
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02-05-2021, 01:52 AMImposeGolden State Deal
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02-05-2021, 02:15 AMnew city champ
Sorry bruh, that deal would never happen. Not even close. Best we could do in a Lonzo trade with the Warriors would be something centered on Kelly Oubre or Eric Paschall and a 2nd round pick—though if Oubre throws up any more 40-burgers he’ll be off the table as well.
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02-05-2021, 02:18 AMPelicanidae
I think both teams would say no to that.
Golden State seems obsessed with Wiseman, they cannot stop gushing over him, and it's been long known that Kerr and Myers have a thing for height and size. He's like their little Golden Boy.
On the other hand, we'd have to accept Wiggins, who is playing probably his best basketball ever and still isn't very good, and is on a massive contract for several more years. -
02-05-2021, 02:21 AMImposeI suppose my devils advocate opinion is 'but they get Adams and he's like the early Bogut years type Center and is a win now piece, Wiseman being benched lately for Looney doesn't speak volumes for him being in Curry/Klay's championship window?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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02-05-2021, 02:26 AMImposeTo me it depends on how far off they think Wiseman is from being ready. Curry, Dray and Klay's windows is closing. We could also throw in picks for their eventual rebuild (Lakers & Bucks picks)Quote:
Originally Posted by new city champ
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02-05-2021, 02:34 AMPelicanidaeYou think Wiseman is worth Adams plus multiple firsts? That's exceedingly generous to Wiseman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Impose
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02-05-2021, 02:40 AMImposeI think Wiseman is an extremely good fit and has borderline all-star as the floor of his future. But others may think differentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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02-05-2021, 08:21 AMluckyman
No team would trade a player they just drafted #2 overall by the first trade deadline they see. I don't think that's ever happened and probably never will.
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02-05-2021, 08:28 AMSilverfoxxThis a extremely unrealistic trade bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Impose
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02-05-2021, 09:20 AMPELICANSFANI wouldn't say Wiggins still isn't very good, but definitely not worth his contract. He is actually playing solid defense now and more selective in his shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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02-05-2021, 09:34 AMPelicanidaeMy reasoning for saying he's still not very good, just for clarification, even though he is definitely playing his best thus far:Quote:
Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN
- Still not shooting league average TS%
- Still a really pretty poor defender
- Scoring rate has dipped, not just volume (per. 100)
- Still has a negative net rating
- Career low FTr and FT%
- Minus 4 on/off even though his backup isn't very good either
For $13m you'd be like, yeah sure fine. For $29.5m this year, going up to $31.5m next year, and then $33.6m the year after, it's unacceptably terrible. Therefore the middle ground is ''not very good''. Extremely poor value for money, is a very mediocre roleplayer with low feel getting superstar money. -
02-05-2021, 03:55 PMpr1840The Pelicans traded Buddy Hield, the #6 overall, at the first trade deadline. Anything is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by luckyman
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02-05-2021, 09:38 PMluckymanHuge difference between a #6 like Buddy Hield and a #2 like James Wiseman, that could have easily gone #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by pr1840
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02-05-2021, 09:55 PMAUSSIE_PELICANIs this Pelicans Talk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Impose
Just terrible