[Official - trade complete] Hornets Trying to Land RFA Lopez from the Suns {merged}

[Eman5805]

From the article linked above.



Just because we didn't hear anything does not mean Dempsey wasn't working.

And note that he's stalking playing alongside him. Not backing up. PF, mos def for Davis. And not just a guy that'll languish on the bench for a while at best like one Whiteside, but a guy who can come in and grab starter minutes from jump.

[PELICANSFAN]

Miller's cap figure is $5.1 million until he gets bought out. Combining his salary with Dyson's is essential because we can take back 150%. 150% of $5.1 million = $7.65, or just $3.65 for Lopez in the first year once you take out Warrick's $4 million salary. Throw Dyson's salary in the mix and and you can start Lopez at about $4.8 million.

I'm still a little confused as to how we can take Warrick's contract back in the deal anyway. If Hoopshype is accurate, we have only a little over $6 million in cap room currently. ($45,031 without Miller plus Rivers and Davis combined at a little over $7 million = a little over $52 million). As Warrick's contract is $4.6 million, that leaves less than $2 million under the cap). Maybe there is an exemption/exception included somewhere.

[PennStatePelican]

Demps is working with the Special Man. Must be the key we're missing!

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Miller's cap figure is $5.1 million until he gets bought out. Combining his salary with Dyson's is essential because we can take back 150%. 150% of $5.1 million = $7.65, or just $3.65 for Lopez in the first year once you take out Warrick's $4 million salary. Throw Dyson's salary in the mix and and you can start Lopez at about $4.8 million.

I think this is correct. You get another 100k in there per the rule, bringing the total to 4&4.9m. Raises bring the total to $15.3m.

The issue then being the moratorium on doing this. With Dyson and Thomas' nonguaranteed contracts, we are definitely starting over the cap, if that matters. We are definitely over the cap post-trade, and this is what usually matters in trade scenarios.

[BP225]

As Warrick's contract is $4.6 million

Interesting. ESPN trade machine shows him at $4 million, not $4.6 like Hoopshype.

Regarding the cap, I calculate the Hornets being over:

Lewis $13,700,000.00
Gordon $13,668,750.00
Anderson $8,700,000.00
Davis $5,144,280.00
B. Miller $5,104,000.00
Aminu $2,947,800.00
J. Smith $2,500,000.00
Henry $2,323,200.00
Rivers $2,238,360.00
Vasquez $1,191,240.00
Dyson $762,195.00
L. Thomas $762,195.00
D. Miller $473,604.00
Total: $59,515,624.00

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I'm still a little confused as to how we can take Warrick's contract back in the deal anyway. If Hoopshype is accurate, we have only a little over $6 million in cap room currently. ($45,031 without Miller plus Rivers and Davis combined at a little over $7 million = a little over $52 million). As Warrick's contract is $4.6 million, that leaves less than $2 million under the cap). Maybe there is an exemption/exception included somewhere.

Warrick is only $4m... Hoopshype botched it. Using the TPE as it appears we can allows us to take back more than we send. However, it must still conform to other rules, and the moratorium on sending Miller with people may be in effect. Also, Dyson's deal is too small to match with someone else's in the deal, so separate deals don't seem to work.

Maybe the moratorium does not apply here. I'm waiting to see.

I thought maybe getting Johnson first would help, but we can't do that I think.

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Interesting. ESPN trade machine shows him at $4 million, not $4.6 like Hoopshype.

Regarding the cap, I calculate the Hornets being over:

Lewis $13,700,000.00
Gordon $13,668,750.00
Anderson $8,700,000.00
Davis $5,144,280.00
B. Miller $5,104,000.00
Aminu $2,947,800.00
J. Smith $2,500,000.00
Henry $2,323,200.00
Rivers $2,238,360.00
Vasquez $1,191,240.00
Dyson $762,195.00
L. Thomas $762,195.00
D. Miller $473,604.00
Total: $59,515,624.00

Not sure Miller is signed and maybe they can waive Thomas, but I'm not sure that'd help. Usually it's the post-trade sitaution that determines the rule.

This seems right, otherwise.

[BP225]

Not sure Miller is signed

He's not, but unless Rashard Lewis counts towards a roster spot, which I'm doubting since he's on another roster already, the roster would stand at 11 and require the rookie minimum placeholder salary anyway so I just gave that to Miller.

[Austrian_Pelican]

Interesting. ESPN trade machine shows him at $4 million, not $4.6 like Hoopshype.

Regarding the cap, I calculate the Hornets being over:

Lewis $13,700,000.00
Gordon $13,668,750.00
Anderson $8,700,000.00
Davis $5,144,280.00
B. Miller $5,104,000.00
Aminu $2,947,800.00
J. Smith $2,500,000.00
Henry $2,323,200.00
Rivers $2,238,360.00
Vasquez $1,191,240.00
Dyson $762,195.00
L. Thomas $762,195.00
D. Miller $473,604.00
Total: $59,515,624.00

isn't dyson in the trade ??

[BP225]

isn't dyson in the trade ??

And so is Brad Miller, but the trade isn't complete yet. Hornetsfan was saying he thought the team was currently under the cap because no site seems to have complete salary data. Right now the only way to figure the correct team salary is with a spreadsheet.

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He's not, but unless Rashard Lewis counts towards a roster spot, which I'm doubting since he's on another roster already, the roster would stand at 11 and require the rookie minimum placeholder salary anyway so I just gave that to Miller.

The roster charge does not apply to trades, I think. The Lewis setoff is also not included, but I don't think it makes a difference here.

[PelicanFever]

HOOPSHYPE:
Eric Gordon: Hakim warrick and robin lopez WELCOME!!!!!! about 6 minutes ago

those guys must be the reason gordon wanted to go to phoenix lol

[eballa1]

Was EG's heart sent back to us in this deal?

[PelicanFever]

Was EG's heart sent back to us in this deal?

that must be the hold up

[WhoDatPelican]

Was EG's heart sent back to us in this deal?

Its lost in Robin Lopez's hair... currently trying to dig it out.

[bojangles837]

Demps is working with the Special Man. Must be the key we're missing!

didn't he die a couple of weeks ago?

[WhoDatPelican]

didn't he die a couple of weeks ago?

I may be wrong but i think the special man died a while back... I think the dancing white guy (frankie?) died in florida recently?
the i say, i say, frankie say, i say dancing guy? I might be wrong though...

[bojangles837]

davis looks really funny in this pic and why is that blanket so big

[RaisingTheBar]

davis looks really funny in this pic and why is that blanket so big

he is 6'11

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didn't he die a couple of weeks ago?

Special man died a while back, then the nephew (with nooo problem), and the Trapani recently.

[bojangles837]

Special man died a while back, then the nephew (with nooo problem), and the Trapani recently.

hmm i guess i read something wrong

[Mr. West]

This proposed trade is in some trouble according to the Arizona Republic. The Suns owner has stated the trade is 50/50.

[PELICANSFAN]

Let's hope this is not true-

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/20...-to-fit-league

[RaisingTheBar]

i dont understand the importance of warrick, just not include him in the deal or give them x.

[PELICANSFAN]

i dont understand the importance of warrick, just not include him in the deal or give them x.

I think Phoenix wants to unload his salary and we are the obvious takers (as Minny cannot).