Not surprised, he makes above 3.5 if we pick it upOriginally Posted by HornetGuru
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Not surprised, he makes above 3.5 if we pick it up
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maybe even a quarter of double of them
Kyle Korver? Though the 4 team starting thing comes into question, unless you count preseason for Atlanta
No. The Hornets have 2 things to consider in picking up options.
1) will committing to a salary keep you from offering a max deal. Vasquez' $2.1M doesn't hit the cap space as hard as Henry and Aminu's $3M and $4M.
2) Is the qualifying offer more than the player could get on the open market? Just like Beli and Jason Smith. Demps knew he could get Smith much cheaper than the QO and he did. The same thing may well happen with Aminu. No one will complain about Aminu being an 8th man if he's on a deal similar to Smith's.
Thought of him too, but he was never a starter in Chicago. And probably not Utah, for that matter. Though I am sure about the later....
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I like the 50/50 aspect....either we do something or we don't....
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It would be clutching at straws but he had starts at both places
This is NOT the guy that I know Dell offered a package for today, but how would people feel about:
Henry, Warrick, and Vasquez for Jose Calderon (1 yr rental)
Calderon doesn't play a lick of defense but he can run a team and will keep the turnovers under control
Go out and sign Gary Forbes and Jon Brockman at league mins to fill the roster spots. Three upgrades IMO
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Love it. I followed the Raps for a long time and calderon is a great leader and pg.
still one more spot to fill...no? I tried on another thread and no response, but whats your take on the CDR situation? and btw, I would be a huge supporter of Calderon
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Would love it also, and would be a good deadline target but Toronto may have similar plans.
I wouldn't give up Vasquez to get Calderon on a rental.. I think Vasquez can be the long term answer at back up PG.
Calderon meanwhile would be a nice player to have this year, but I'd rather think long term over short term. Also, I'm not sure if Calderon would be too happy playing in New Orleans. Considering we already have the possibility of Gordon not wanting to be here, having 2 starters not wanting to be here potentially is just not good to me when rebuilding.
Vasquez brings a lot of intangible qualities to the team and while he's been disappointing this preseason, I think the addition of Gordon to the starting line up and more time with the new team will greatly benefit Vasquez. And quite honestly, even if the turnovers do continue, I'm okay with that. It'll lead to a better draft pick this draft and that's always good
Can you please tell us the package (:
im so eager to know
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I wish I could just listen in on all of Dell's conversations.
I would hate to give up Vasquez as I also think he's the long term backup answer at 1, but I wouldn't hate this. Big fan of JC, he's a definite leader at point.
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But what's the point ? We lose him after the year. So we basically get better to have a worse pick to lose him in the offseason? Seems like a waste of time to be honest. Still don't think we make the playoffs. I'd like to hear the reasoning. If we keep the team as is, we can see what Vasquez has to offer us long term and we can build a little more "naturally".
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1. Can Warrick be traded so soon?
2. Calderon would be a 10.5 mil expiring, adding even more money for next years FA.
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the sensei has a point
Warrick and Henry are expirings already. Adding more expiring does not give us more money to spend in FA (as cap stays the same). So, the only additional savings would be Vasquez at about $2 million.
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That trade McNamara posted would be pointless.
Good point. We'd be dumping a cheap role player (worst case) in Vasquez to pick up an expiring veteran. Henry & Warrick are likely gone after this year anyway so it's not like we'd be doing it to dump salary. If anything, it's worse for the cap due to losing a key role player that would be making only 2 million.
Basically, we'd end up with a slightly better record (lower draft pick), and fewer future assets. It'd be a terrible trade for the current Hornets' situation. Only way I could se it is if the Raptors throw in a first rounder. But that's basically tied up with the Rockets (now Thunder) for the next half a decade.
Bingo, an additional 2.15 mil. I did know the first two were expiring, what I did not know was that the 3 combined = only about 7.5 mil. Sow we would be taking in an additional 3 mil this year to save 2 mil next year.
haha here we go....
I think a lot are only looking at numbers here and not the entire picture. We need to think about player development, mental progression, and lets not forget fan involvement. We don't want to just tank this year. We don't want to just say its a rebuilding year and lets cash it in. You always take the win. We are a very young team, and going 12 -72 could destroy our young team's confidence. We need to breed the culture of winning. We cannot afford to waste a year. Building a culture takes a very very long time.
Because we are a young team, we need to run. Calderon excels at the lob pass. I think Calderon would be a much needed boost to the team. Imagine all of the alley-opps to AD23 and the chief this year?
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