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Why in the world would Minnesota would to trade back for their own 1st round pick if they think they'll be good? It makes no sense. I don't think I've ever seen any team trade away their pick and then trade to get it back.
Now that we are 1/4 through the season instead of 0/4, how are we looking on this pick?
What was its value? What is its value? What will its value be?
I know I placed a value on it in here and it seems that would have been a good deal I'm not sure we could get today: Rubio and Love. How about tomorrow?
Rubio and Williams was mentioned as just rightsaying and toothe low. How about that?
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Would anybody trade Kaman, Jack and one of the firsts for Rondo and Jermain O'Neal? Saw Boston fans discussing it on some forum.
Last edited by Mr. West; 01-25-2012 at 08:07 AM.
What bar were they drinking in? Sounds like a killer joint.
I think their pick stays in the 8-12 range. If it's 8 and the fix is in the pick could be top 3. If it's 12 you miss out on the sure starters but there are still worthwhile guys to draft. I don't think it's a very tradeable asset. Assuming the Hornets are able to draft one of the "sure thing" PFs with their pick the Minnesota pick would be good to take a chance on a high upside guy like Quincy Miller. I don't see how a trade gets us a better prospect than the 8-12 pick, and the only other thing we want besides prospects to rebuild with is moving Okafor's contract and there aren't too many scenarios I can think of where trading Okafor and the pick gets us a reasonable return.
So maybe we should have shopped it? And Love and Williams too high? Not too low?
Packaging it could work but I'm not sure we want to dump Okafor now. Maybe we do. It's worthy of consideration.
Also, forget about the fix. There is no evidence of such a thing.
Rubio's good play hasn't helped, but I think the value of the pick changed when Adelman took the job. By the time we got the pick it had already been devalued so shopping it immediately probably wouldn't have gotten much more than shopping now.So maybe we should have shopped it?
The guys logic was that with Jack/ Allen/Pierce/KG/Kaman they could still make a run in the playoffs this year, with Kaman and a couple of their players( I think KG but don't quote me) expiring they could make a bang in free agency (he said go after Dwight/Deron but I dont really buy that) and with the Minny pick they would have 4 picks in next years draft and either build from there or try and trade up with them. I think they way overvalue Jack, but in all honesty, he made decent points.
I mean why would the Hornets do it?
I see it as an unqualified step. Maybe without our pick or their 'worst' one coming our way. Long terms, it hurts us.
I'd trade the pick and Okafor for Derrick Williams. He was the #2 pick last year and maybe should have been the #1 pick. I'm not sure who this year in college is better than Williams was last year, or further more who would be better as a rookie than Williams as a 2nd year player.
Being able to get rid of Okafor would seal it for me.
Also... no way Wolves are trading Rubio. It's not happening.
Minnesota is the 10th seed right now and i dont see them leapfrogging the more established West teams. Keep the pick unless we are bombarded with an overwhelming offer.
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That is correct. I don't want Rondo's deal going forward. I think we will have better options overall for the next 2 summers, and I want Dell to have his shot so we can see if he's legit or not. He's shown great promise, but we need to see him build, not manuver. Any deal like Rondo's going with Gordon and Okafor hurts that.
Next stop: Okafor. This summer or next season.
Most definitely I would trade one of the picks along with contract filler like Okafor,kaman, or Ariza to get a pg like Rondo. Jack is nice, but if I had a chance to get a pg like Rondo and pair him with EG that your backcourt for the next decade potentially.
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