Thunder acquires Tyson Chandler from the Hornets {multi-merged reactions}

[PELICANSFAN]

But rest assured, the league wants to see CP3 in the finals, and they want him to do it in New Orleans. They push him more than almost any other player in the league. They already have the press releases diagrammed for how they supported New Orleans after Katrina and such and such...

Is that a joke? Are you suggesting the NBA would do something to allow CP3 to win a title here? That's crazy talk.

[HornetHaven]

Not many players are worth a dollar for dollar fine. LeBron is. Chris Paul might be. Chandler isn't. If we stood at $77M in salary on what would have been a $60M cap (if teams are lucky), we couldn't afford to pay that tax. Not many teams can afford to pay $17M in luxury taxes.

it's not a fine, it's a tax

and technically, cp3 is why we'd be over the luxury tax (his salary raises about $10M next year). posey is also a reason why

[stbviper22]

Not many players are worth a dollar for dollar fine. LeBron is. Chris Paul might be. Chandler isn't. If we stood at $77M in salary on what would have been a $60M cap (if teams are lucky), we couldn't afford to pay that tax. Not many teams can afford to pay $17M in luxury taxes.

The luxury tax isnt the salary cap. Luxury tax isat about 72 milllion.

[NIH]

so you think having a low end rookie contract would sink the Hornets? are you really trying to debate this?

[HornetHaven]

so you think having a low end rookie contract would sink the Hornets? are you really trying to debate this?

we sell chandler to save $10M and can't afford to take on $1M

makes sense

[stbviper22]

why would the hornets offer them contracts?

this deal was made to SAVE money, not spend the same amount next year

Because we didnt need to cut 11 mil to stay out of the luxury, all we needed to cut was around 5 mil or so.

[NIH]

we sell chandler to save $10M and can't afford to take on $1M

makes sense

[HornetHaven]

Because we didnt need to cut 11 mil to stay out of the luxury, all we needed to cut was around 5 mil or so.

add in a 1st round draft pick and that's $4M

wilcox can get a MLE deal somewhere else for more than that

this trade goes beyond staying under the luxury tax. this trade was made to save a lot of money. some of the saving is no luxury tax payments. most is pure salary

[NBA Champs]

I think some of us forget about "team defense." OK, so what if Wilcox is a defensive beast, neither was Chandler this year. That why other players pick up the slack and play team defense. That includes hustling for rebounds, helping out miss-matches, contesting shots etc. I forgot what else I as going to say here....erk

[Saints Fan in A]

Because we didnt need to cut 11 mil to stay out of the luxury, all we needed to cut was around 5 mil or so.

And who with a $5M salary could we have scrapped? And if we were up against the cap and the cap went down, like it looks like it will, how brilliant is that?

[Saints Fan in A]

The luxury tax isnt the salary cap. Luxury tax isat about 72 million.

Point taken. Either way, how else would we have gotten under that threshold?

[stbviper22]

add in a 1st round draft pick and that's $4M

wilcox can get a MLE deal somewhere else for more than that

this trade goes beyond staying under the luxury tax. this trade was made to save a lot of money. some of the saving is no luxury tax payments. most is pure salary

Once again more guessing. You cant just guess where players will go. Wilcox might like it here and want to stay for cheap. Him and smith may give us a boost in the playoffs and we go to the conference finals, you never know.

[HornetHaven]

And who with a $5M salary could we have scrapped? And if we were up against the cap and the cap went down, like it looks like it will, how brilliant is that?

we're already above the salary cap

[HornetHaven]

Once again more guessing. You cant just guess where players will go. Wilcox might like it here and want to stay for cheap. Him and smith may give us a boost in the playoffs and we go to the conference finals, you never know.

kwame brown got $4M last year

you think wilcox is going to play for the vet min to stay in nola? seriously?

[Saints Fan in A]

Is that a joke? Are you suggesting the NBA would do something to allow CP3 to win a title here? That's crazy talk.

Cause the NBA doesn't want certain players to be on a bigger stage...okay...

[HornetHaven]

Point taken. Either way, how else would we have gotten under that threshold?

not signed james posey

[PELICANSFAN]

For all the people who like Chandler. Can you Honestly say that his play this year is worth 11 million? He is not ranked in the top 20 Centers in production and is only posting 8 and 8. Stop with the "he provides defensive presence" when his defensive rating is the same as Hilton Armstrong's'.

Watch the games and not a simulator. Chandler's defensive presence is his value, not the difference between 8 and 12 points a game. Hilton is not a defensive presence because he gets manhandled and is lazy. Wilcox is a decent offensive presence, but not a defender as he gets pushed around as well. So, if you are asking me would I rather have Chandler or Wilcox/Smith, it is a definitive yes!

[Korrbg20]

What a crap sports day. First, Deuce is cut, now this... Chandler was definitely not contributing the way he was last year and two years ago. But geez....Chris Wilcox??? This sucks. Money dump. Pure and simple.

[NBA Champs]

Once again more guessing. You cant just guess where players will go. Wilcox might like it here and want to stay for cheap. Him and smith may give us a boost in the playoffs and we go to the conference finals, you never know.

Kuddos for the optimism dude!

[Saints Fan in A]

not signed james posey

Or basically, not signed anybody, right? Would a better player for the MLE have made a difference cap wise? Or should we have stood pat with the team we had last year? No improvement? Please, enlighten me.

[NIH]

People still haven't realized we will be left with Devon Hardin and some cap space form this trade.

[PELICANSFAN]

Not many players are worth a dollar for dollar fine. LeBron is. Chris Paul might be. Chandler isn't. If we stood at $77M in salary on what would have been a $60M cap (if teams are lucky), we couldn't afford to pay that tax. Not many teams can afford to pay $17M in luxury taxes.

People keep confusing the cap and the luxury tax. The luxury tax limit is around $71 million and we would have been about $76 million. That is a $5 million penalty (still nothing to sneeze at).

[PELICANSFAN]

Or basically, not signed anybody, right? Would a better player for the MLE have made a difference cap wise? Or should we have stood pat with the team we had last year? No improvement? Please, enlighten me.

Are we a better team with Posey and not Chandler? I would take Chandler over Posey 10 days out of 10.

[Saints Fan in A]

People keep confusing the cap and the luxury tax. The luxury tax limit is around $71 million and we would have been about $76 million. That is a $5 million penalty (still nothing to sneeze at).

You're right, a few times. My bad on confusing it, but you're also right...$5M is nothing to sneeze at. In this economy, $5M is real money. Rich teams like the Redskins are laying people off. It's a different day.

[PELICANSFAN]

Cause the NBA doesn't want certain players to be on a bigger stage...okay...

Wow! That speaks volumes.....