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    VC to N.O????

    Just heard on ABC NEWS 7. The Raptors have offered

    Vince Carter, Jalen Rose and cash for Jamaal Magloire and P.J Brown.
    Last edited by how045; 07-28-2004 at 06:54 PM.

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    I hope we don't give up Mags, he's too important. That will leave us with NO big men

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    If the Saints could do it Contributor Joe Horn(ets)'s Avatar
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    Really, wow!

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    I can't believe we would offer that. It doesn't financially work like that either.
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    If the Saints could do it Contributor Joe Horn(ets)'s Avatar
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    The Hornets didn't offer it, he said "have been offered". I'm assuming that means Toronto offered us the deal.

    I don't know if I like it though, VC attracts fans and can be a great player, but we would be losing both our big men and have David West and Chris Andersen to replace him?

    I'd do it if they took out Mags and put in Mash or someone, LOL.

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    Blah, I read it 3 times to make sure I saw it right and I still got it wrong. Thanks.

    I don't like it though. As said it would take away all our big guys.
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    In Time Out Harvey Hornet-x's Avatar
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    Well............

    Last night I informed the other mods about a possible trade involving VC and Rose. The offer isn't new. It's been on the table a few days.

    Here is the way I understand that it went down...

    Mash, DW and Mags for Rose and Vince. Those are the major players involved. I'm sure there may be some "trade fodder" that would be included.

    IF Mash's MRI were to come back bad, then PJ might be thrown in the mix in his place.

    As far as I know, the Hornets aren't interested. JMags is too high of a price to give up. I'd give them Mash, PJ and DW though...

    Rose's contract is horrible and he's not the kind of guy you really want around.

    Vince seems to be always hurt.

    I can't see giving up a young All-star center. Especially when we have zero depth behind him. Now, if they want to talk about Bosh and Araujo...

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    Yo Bristow, tell them Mash is enough.

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    PJ, Mash, DW and Armstrong for VC and Rose works...

    New Orleans trades: SF Jamal Mashburn (20.8 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 2.5 apg in 38.4 minutes)
    PF PJ Brown (10.4 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 1.9 apg in 34.4 minutes)
    SG David Wesley (13.9 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 32.8 minutes)
    PG Darrell Armstrong (10.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 3.9 apg in 28.5 minutes)
    New Orleans receives: SG Jalen Rose (15.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 37.9 minutes)
    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -17.7 ppg, -11.1 rpg, and -1.4 apg.

    Toronto trades: SG Jalen Rose (15.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 37.9 minutes)
    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    Toronto receives: SF Jamal Mashburn (20.8 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 2.5 apg in 19 games)
    PF PJ Brown (10.4 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 1.9 apg in 80 games)
    SG David Wesley (13.9 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 61 games)
    PG Darrell Armstrong (10.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 3.9 apg in 79 games)
    Change in team outlook: +17.7 ppg, +11.1 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to New Orleans and Toronto being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. New Orleans and Toronto had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


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    If they take Mash and send us Bosh and Araujo maybe I consider it, otherwise they're trying to screw us.

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    I would not give up Mags.

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    HEY!!! Vince Carter may be a huge ballhog.. but here's something to think about... don't (most of) you guys want the Hornets to get good attendance so they won't have any problem staying in the NO? I definitely do.. Vince Carter is the way to go for that.

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    I'd take wins over attendance because attendance will come with wins. This trade for VC = attendance (questionable though), not wins.

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    Then again, I can't imagine having Vince Carter and Baron Davis on the same team. I hope we get rid of at least 2 32+ year olds in a trade with SOMEONE though.. {edited by Admin - inappropriate comment}.

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    No. Carter is overrated.
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    We'd be crazy to say no to the deal if they let us take Mags out, if it doesn't involve BD or Mags (which I doubt), I'd do it.

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    We better not do this. We have to keep Mags. We have limited big men as it is. VC and Rose is not the answer without a solid bigman like Mags.
    God Bless New Orleans and God Bless Louisiana.

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    I am against the deal as well for the reasons mentioned above. OTOH, JMags could be disappointed if the trade doesn't happen. At least we have him under contract for a few more years. If this were a contract year, I'd be concerned about losing him to FA and would probably do the deal if he insisted on getting up there. As the trade currently stands, though, I say NO! And wins do = better attendance.


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    You know I realize now that I was retarded saying that trades involving Magloire and VC would be good.. I think we should get rid of Mash, DA, DW, and PJ.. and get Rose and Carter, like HH said.. that'd be really cool, we knock out 4 people who are 32 or over, not to mention Mashbum.. and we get a 27 and a 30 year old. Then we just need to sign 2 or 3 more big men and we're set. Or maybe it's easier said than done. Maybe Scott can keep Carter from becoming a total ballhog, or maybe I'm just being optimistic for once. I don't know

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    if they are willing to trade him in some package without Mags I would do it....even if Jalen Rose is involved. Carter may be over-rated but I would rather him than Mash. That plus Carters star power can't help but be good financially.


    Mags
    West
    Carter
    Rose
    Davis


    pretty good. especially with Toronto Matching for Peterson.

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    If this does happen, we'd hopefully send Mush for a center.

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    Im against any trade that involves BD or Jmags and any trade that DOESNT involve Mashburn.

    The only way I would accept losing Jmags is if there was a 3 team deal that sends us a quality center.

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    We shouldn't take Rose under any circumstance without them taking Mash!!!!!! Trade one cancer for another, not get stuck with two!!!!
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    The deal would have to include Mash. Toronto would be dumping their problem (Rose) on us so we would have to dump Mash on them. I still say no deal if Mags is involved. 3 team trade would be the only way but I dont think that would happen and it would still be very hard for me to let Mags go.

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    I am not worried, they will do what they feel is best for the team.

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