But talks are now dead. https://www.si.com/nba/2017/11/02/er...stons-pelicans
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But talks are now dead. https://www.si.com/nba/2017/11/02/er...stons-pelicans
Last edited by All Metro; 11-02-2017 at 06:19 PM.
SIGN A SF
Didn't even know there were talks what the hell??
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Might've beat you to it? Or not.
But we would've also traded Ajinca and Asik and our 1st.
I'm kinda unsure how to feel.
The good: we would have gotten rid of Asik and Ajinca
The bad: adios 1st round pick
The unknown: hello Reggie Jackson
Would have been a pretty interesting what if, if that actually happened. But oh well.
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I have to figure it was Phoenix that balked. Damn it. Why'd they say no? Unwilling to add any salary whatsoever? Aren't they all in on the Michael Porter Jr sweepstakes?
damn I wouldve loved this trade
Just cut out the middle man. What more does Phoenix want? Ugh. I wish I knew things.
Maybe I should drink.
I am surprised Phoenix turned down two first round picks
they are probably holding out for a young player and 1st. i hope they can somehow 360 back to this deal but I doubt it.
Why aren't we targeting Tyson Chandler?!?! None of this makes sense.... Smh
I would of loved the trade...we need a playmaking guard. Jrue is just not the guy.
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Somehow this trade makes us 7 wins better, perhaps it rounds us out a little more.
Pels get: Tobias Harris (3 yrs/$16m per), Tyson Chandler (2 yrs/$13m per), Reggie Jackson (2 yrs/$16m per)
Suns get: Andre Drummond, Solo Hill, Chieck Diallo
Pistons get: Demarcus Cousins, Eric Bledsoe, E'twan Moore
I know it's great to get rid of Asik and Ajinca but I don't see how this trade would make the team better. Unless you deal Holiday or Moore, your just adding more of the same (another combo guard that's a good not great 3 point shooter like Holiday and in some ways Moore, Clark, and Frank Jackson). If we were to get in that trade I feel like getting a wing that can guard the perimeter with a consistent 3 point shot would be an upgrade or a decent big to come off the bench. It's just a typical Demps trade. Short time gamble that jeopardize long term success.
We'd have had the same issue if we got Bledsoe as with Jackson. Who starts Reggie or Rondo? I think I'd like to work a few small moves before we move our first. Move some seconds with players like Moore, Ajinca and Diallo for viable players. After December 15th we could move Allen and Miller for other small pieces.
Fascinating that we'd be willing to ship our first to get yet another PG, even if it unloaded all our dead cap. If we had Jameer, Rondo, Jackson, Clark and Moore that would move Jrue to essentially exclusively SF minutes I guess. Weird.
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Agreed! I just think it's to many of the same pieces. Holiday, Jackson, Clark, Frank Jackson, and for the most part Moore are basically the same player (a combo guard that really is a solid but not great role player). It would really make me question Demps plan. I know he's fascinated with 6'3 combo guards tho.
In order to move Asik or Ajinca, our trade package will have to include our 1st Rd. pick.
Yeah but the trade doesn’t really solve any of our problems. Jrue will probably be even more passive, Cunningham will still be the starting SF, and we don't have any quality bigs to come off the bench.
I wouldn't see this move as a "we're going all in for this season" fellas. I think the team feels more comfortable about Boogie than we do and they are looking to the next few seasons. Pickup Jackson, shed all that dead money, make the playoffs this year, then let Rondo and others walk while we move forward with Jackson, Jrue, Boogie, AD, and some flexibility to actually get pisses that fit around that.
BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.
BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.
I think your giving Demps to much credit. I don't think Holiday and Jackson fit together with Boogie and AD. Those are two low IQ guards. Besides, Rondo is Boogie's guy not Jackson. Also, Rondo is a high IQ point guard which both Holiday and Jackson aren't. I just think combo guards are Demps fetish.
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