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Jimmer highlights from last night..
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc1NGD9140U
I hope Jimmer blows up this year and is an All-Star. I also hope Rivers does, And our entire team. I'd love for our team to all take such a huge step forward that we field an entire team of All-Stars.
I will pull for everyone on the team and still criticize mistakes and issues I see. No need for Jimmer fans to feel the world is against them here. We all want him to blow up. At the same time we will critique him just like every other player. No need to be heavy handed with your love of him here.
Yes, let's support journeyman below average players and defend them. Let' also run off one of the best players on the roster and not support him even though he has been injured for most of his time here. Seems like a winning recipe.
NOLA NBA, I asked this before, but I never heard your response
1) Whats your beef with Jimmer?
2) Who would you realistically replace him with?
If you Jimmer it, they will come.
In case anybody cares... here are AD's highlights from last night
Look at his career, everyone who had him dumped him. He's not very good, has little upside. Will not add much to this team. Not a beef, a reality. He will add little to nothing to this team. Replacing him may not even be necessary he may only play 5 minutes a game.
As deep as we are in the backcourt there are myriad of other options that would have been better in my opinion.
I just think it not very intelligent to throw glaring support to players who will never amount to nothing and talk everyday about trading an actual good NBA player who has only not lived up to his contract because he was injured. Doesn't **** me off, just think it's makes no sense.
Who is the good player we are talking about trading? Gordon? There was talk of trading Gordon a few months ago, but I think since the draft people have been content with waiting til the trade deadline to make a move on that front.
As for having hope in Jimmer and Rivers... some guys develop later (the list is pretty long), and it appears that far more people think these two guys are worth another year, and some end of the bench minuets than think that neither should be out of the league. I think you are the vocal minority here.
How is putting stock into a guy who's never came close to playing a full season except for his rookie year that much smarter?
I find it quite hypocritical you think 3rd year players wont amount to anything but hang your hat on a guy that's been in the league 6 years and played 311 out of 492 games. Why does being injured give him an excuse? If he was as good as you apparently think he will be it doesn't matter anyway if he's always hurt. Its not like we are dealing with a small sample size here either.
I think he is missing the fact that Jimmer and Rivers combined salary is less than 1/3 of Gordon's.
People wanting Gordon gone has much less to do with his actual production and more to do with his cost.
I don't understand how its so hard to grasp the concept that bench guys who haven't got a ton of minutes and are cheap are looked at in a much different light than our Max contract player who's heart is in Phoenix.
I think of Gordon and the injuries he has incurred over his time here and my mind steers me back to the times Baron Davis played for us and was hurt.
Both are/were good players, both got paid nice money, both got hurt a whole lot (how many of those injuries were real or not are a different subject). Davis didn't do any good for us after his last playoff run with us until he was traded for Speedy Claxton and loose change.
I just don't understand the mindset of thinking that 3rd years guys wont live up to potential but a guy 6 years in will.
It's called opportunity costs.
On the one hand you have a guy, Jimmer Fredette, on a one year salary for $950,000 being asked to be a shooting specialist off the bench for 10 minutes or so a night. On the other hand you have a guy who is being payed almost $15,000,000 a year, more then guys like Tony Parker, James Harden or Demarcus Cousins, who was expected to play like a franchise superstar but has instead been often injured and has consistently underperformed.
The opportunity cost of Jimmer is almost nothing, he's low risk, high reward - in fact I would be curious who you think we could get better for $950,000? Then you have Eric Gordon, who's opportunity cost could of been a player like Trevor Ariza this offseason and then $6,000,000 in savings to put toward another player. Which for instance could of kept Morrow here and never had to sign this guy Jimmer you seem to hate so much. Fielding a lineup of Jrue, Evans, Ariza, Davis and Asik with Ryno, Morrow and Rivers manning the main reserves. All with money to spare.
There is a world of difference in the expectations between Gordon and Jimmer. If the Jimmer signing fails it will have little impact on our longterm prospects as a team. The Gordon signing on the other hand has hand-tied this franchise for several seasons now and is a roadblock to truly building the team needed around Davis to take that next step.
At this point he's not going anywhere, so I am rooting for him like crazy because we need him to play well to 1.) help us get to the playoffs and 2.) to opt out this offseason to free up $15,000,000.
Last edited by N.O.Bronco; 10-15-2014 at 07:13 PM.
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