Pelicans to meet with Tyreke Evans (offer has been made)

[Snarly]

I've read on an italian board we plan to use evans as a sixth man? Any truth to that? How can we keep him AND the porcelain guy (without picking up a 3)?

Hard to say. Until the staff comes out and says Gordon is off the table, no one outside of the team really knows at this point. I think every one is speculating right now.

[NOLA_Dave]

The more I've thought about this move the more I'm starting to worry this move is akin to the Dell Demps move that wanted to trade Chris Paul for Louis Scola, Lamar Odom and Kevin Martin. And not the Dell Demps that found us overlooked gems in the rough like Jason Smith, Vasquez, Lopez and got Ryno on a favorable contract.


I'm hoping there's a bigger play at work here cause I think such a big contract to a guy that has so many flaws in his game and hasn't shown steady progress since his rookie year is a dangerous gamble that could very well handicap us in the future and hurt our chances at building a true contender around Davis.

I feel like Dell has those "win now" eyes again that led him to look toward the short term with the cp trade that was gonna net us aging talent on bad contracts. He's at least approaching things smarter then that mixed trade in that he's going after young talent and not old but I do think he's determined to put a playoff team together now and I'm worried he may be gambling on long odds that could hinder us from recovering in the longterm if these gambles don't work out.

I guess I just hope there's a much bigger play at work that I'm not seeing.

Don't forget how much of a mess Sacramento has been the past few years like the Raiders of the NBA. Who knows how he could of progressed in a more stable situation.

[FLYINGPELICANS]

http://www.nba.com/2013/news/07/01/p...ion/index.html

[Kurgan]

Hard to say. Until the staff comes out and says Gordon is off the table, no one outside of the team really knows at this point. I think every one is speculating right now.

Figured as much but some celtics and lakers fans had me nervous for some minutes. I should have known better than to think they'd grown a brain, thanks man

[luckyman]

Don't forget how much of a mess Sacramento has been the past few years like the Raiders of the NBA. Who knows how he could of progressed in a more stable situation.

Good one.

[Bee-Fense]

I don't get why the Kings would want to match him though. They just drafted McLemore, they have Thornton being paid pretty significant money already, and Tyreke doesn't want to be a 3 full time. So they're going to pay big bucks to pay someone out of position??

It's the Kings, but still.

[Kumar]

Man if the Maloofs were there, this wouldn't be a problem. We could sign Tyreke for potatoes and they would be too cheap to match.

[Big-EZ]

On ps3 but one of Tyreke's brothers was replying to fans that he hopes his brother stays in Sac & he isn't a Pelican (obviously). For those who don't know, Tyreke's brothers are like his mentors pretty much.

[Bee-Fense]

On ps3 but one of Tyreke's brothers was replying to fans that he hopes his brother stays in Sac & he isn't a Pelican (obviously). For those who don't know, Tyreke's brothers are like his mentors pretty much.

One of them also said

T.E. ‏@LosoEvans 8h
Reke, Jrue and Davis I'll take it

[tyler]

Idk usually when some one is one a bad team there stats become inflated but his stats has been dropping the last couple of years..

[MistaWhoDat]

Y'all been scoping some brothers out ...lol

[ScoutWithoutClout]

I don't get why the Kings would want to match him though.

i don't expect they will...smooth sailing my friends. we are going to have a great backcourt. the conversation now needs to be what can we get for vasquez and gordon

[Bee-Fense]

Idk usually when some one is one a bad team there stats become inflated but his stats has been dropping the last couple of years..

No they haven't. I've seen a few people say this, so I'll just address this now.

The only number for Tyreke that has really slipped is his minutes. He played 37 minutes in his 2nd season, 34 in his 3rd, and 31 in his 4th. If we adjust his numbers for per 36 minutes, you will see that his points, rebounds, steals, blocks, and asst:to ratio has stayed about the same. You can check the numbers for yourself here:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...evansty01.html

The one difference, however, is in scoring efficiency. Here is how his TS% has gone the past 3 years

Year 2: 48.2%
Year 3: 51.2%
Year 4: 55.8%

Now, to explain how he has become more efficient, we can look at hoopdata to see how he has adjusted his shot selection.

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Tyreke%20Evans

The dumb zone is considered anywhere that isn't at the rim or the 3pt line, so that's 3-23 feet. Let's break down the number of shots he gets in the dumb zone per year

Year 2: 7.6
Year 3: 5.6
Year 4: 3.6

Meanwhile, shots at the rim and 3 point line have been pretty consistent

Year 2: 6.2 at the rim (59.8%), 2.6 3's (43.7 eFG%; 67.4% Assisted)
Year 3: 7.0 at the rim (64.6%), 1.6 3's (30.3 eFG%; 75.0% Assisted)
Year 4: 6.0 at the rim (63.2%), 2.0 3's (50.0 eFG%; 81.4% Assisted)

And one last thing, despite his FGA at the rim barely being the lowest of the 3 years, his free throw rate has continued to improve.

Year 2: 0.283 free throws per shot
Year 3: 0.286 free throws per shot
Year 4: 0.350 free throws per shot

So not only is Tyreke taking less shots in the dumb zone and more in the efficient spots of the court, he is taking less 3's off the dribble as seen by the assisted% go up, and that is a good thing for Tyreke since the 3 is already hard enough for him. What we see is that a player is playing smarter and more within himself, lowering his TO%, shooting better shots, and drawing more free throws. I expect this trend to continue as he gets more experienced and his understanding of the game continues to grow.

[Kurgan]

No they haven't. I've seen a few people say this, so I'll just address this now.

The only number for Tyreke that has really slipped is his minutes. He played 37 minutes in his 2nd season, 34 in his 3rd, and 31 in his 4th. If we adjust his numbers for per 36 minutes, you will see that his points, rebounds, steals, blocks, and asst:to ratio has stayed about the same. You can check the numbers for yourself here:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...evansty01.html

The one difference, however, is in scoring efficiency. Here is how his TS% has gone the past 3 years

Year 2: 48.2%
Year 3: 51.2%
Year 4: 55.8%

Now, to explain how he has become more efficient, we can look at hoopdata to see how he has adjusted his shot selection.

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Tyreke%20Evans

The dumb zone is considered anywhere that isn't at the rim or the 3pt line, so that's 3-23 feet. Let's break down the number of shots he gets in the dumb zone per year

Year 2: 7.6
Year 3: 5.6
Year 4: 3.6

Meanwhile, shots at the rim and 3 point line have been pretty consistent

Year 2: 6.2 at the rim (59.8%), 2.6 3's (43.7 eFG%; 67.4% Assisted)
Year 3: 7.0 at the rim (64.6%), 1.6 3's (30.3 eFG%; 75.0% Assisted)
Year 4: 6.0 at the rim (63.2%), 2.0 3's (50.0 eFG%; 81.4% Assisted)

And one last thing, despite his FGA at the rim barely being the lowest of the 3 years, his free throw rate has continued to improve.

Year 2: 0.283 free throws per shot
Year 3: 0.286 free throws per shot
Year 4: 0.350 free throws per shot

So not only is Tyreke taking less shots in the dumb zone and more in the efficient spots of the court, he is taking less 3's off the dribble as seen by the assisted% go up, and that is a good thing for Tyreke since the 3 is already hard enough for him. What we see is that a player is playing smarter and more within himself, lowering his TO%, shooting better shots, and drawing more free throws. I expect this trend to continue as he gets more experienced and his understanding of the game continues to grow.

Great post man

[pelicanmike]

yeah. awesome post.

[GeauxPelicans]

No they haven't. I've seen a few people say this, so I'll just address this now.

The only number for Tyreke that has really slipped is his minutes. He played 37 minutes in his 2nd season, 34 in his 3rd, and 31 in his 4th. If we adjust his numbers for per 36 minutes, you will see that his points, rebounds, steals, blocks, and asst:to ratio has stayed about the same. You can check the numbers for yourself here:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...evansty01.html

The one difference, however, is in scoring efficiency. Here is how his TS% has gone the past 3 years

Year 2: 48.2%
Year 3: 51.2%
Year 4: 55.8%

Now, to explain how he has become more efficient, we can look at hoopdata to see how he has adjusted his shot selection.

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Tyreke%20Evans

The dumb zone is considered anywhere that isn't at the rim or the 3pt line, so that's 3-23 feet. Let's break down the number of shots he gets in the dumb zone per year

Year 2: 7.6
Year 3: 5.6
Year 4: 3.6

Meanwhile, shots at the rim and 3 point line have been pretty consistent

Year 2: 6.2 at the rim (59.8%), 2.6 3's (43.7 eFG%; 67.4% Assisted)
Year 3: 7.0 at the rim (64.6%), 1.6 3's (30.3 eFG%; 75.0% Assisted)
Year 4: 6.0 at the rim (63.2%), 2.0 3's (50.0 eFG%; 81.4% Assisted)

And one last thing, despite his FGA at the rim barely being the lowest of the 3 years, his free throw rate has continued to improve.

Year 2: 0.283 free throws per shot
Year 3: 0.286 free throws per shot
Year 4: 0.350 free throws per shot

So not only is Tyreke taking less shots in the dumb zone and more in the efficient spots of the court, he is taking less 3's off the dribble as seen by the assisted% go up, and that is a good thing for Tyreke since the 3 is already hard enough for him. What we see is that a player is playing smarter and more within himself, lowering his TO%, shooting better shots, and drawing more free throws. I expect this trend to continue as he gets more experienced and his understanding of the game continues to grow.

Hell of a post, you've ALMOST managed to convince me that he's worth the ridiculous contract we have offered

[NerlensNoel]

Never thought that much of Tyreke after his rookie campaign , looks like we will pay a premium to ensure the Kings dont match, he will be a good player for us, just gotta hope he steps up to expectations

[AUSSIE_PELICAN]

Never thought that much of Tyreke after his rookie campaign , looks like we will pay a premium to ensure the Kings dont match, he will be a good player for us, just gotta hope he steps up to expectations

How do you feel about being traded?

[Spaniard]

No they haven't. I've seen a few people say this, so I'll just address this now.

The only number for Tyreke that has really slipped is his minutes. He played 37 minutes in his 2nd season, 34 in his 3rd, and 31 in his 4th. If we adjust his numbers for per 36 minutes, you will see that his points, rebounds, steals, blocks, and asst:to ratio has stayed about the same. You can check the numbers for yourself here:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...evansty01.html

The one difference, however, is in scoring efficiency. Here is how his TS% has gone the past 3 years

Year 2: 48.2%
Year 3: 51.2%
Year 4: 55.8%

Now, to explain how he has become more efficient, we can look at hoopdata to see how he has adjusted his shot selection.

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Tyreke%20Evans

The dumb zone is considered anywhere that isn't at the rim or the 3pt line, so that's 3-23 feet. Let's break down the number of shots he gets in the dumb zone per year

Year 2: 7.6
Year 3: 5.6
Year 4: 3.6

Meanwhile, shots at the rim and 3 point line have been pretty consistent

Year 2: 6.2 at the rim (59.8%), 2.6 3's (43.7 eFG%; 67.4% Assisted)
Year 3: 7.0 at the rim (64.6%), 1.6 3's (30.3 eFG%; 75.0% Assisted)
Year 4: 6.0 at the rim (63.2%), 2.0 3's (50.0 eFG%; 81.4% Assisted)

And one last thing, despite his FGA at the rim barely being the lowest of the 3 years, his free throw rate has continued to improve.

Year 2: 0.283 free throws per shot
Year 3: 0.286 free throws per shot
Year 4: 0.350 free throws per shot

So not only is Tyreke taking less shots in the dumb zone and more in the efficient spots of the court, he is taking less 3's off the dribble as seen by the assisted% go up, and that is a good thing for Tyreke since the 3 is already hard enough for him. What we see is that a player is playing smarter and more within himself, lowering his TO%, shooting better shots, and drawing more free throws. I expect this trend to continue as he gets more experienced and his understanding of the game continues to grow.

Well done!! I'm also thinking a PG like Jrue and a good supporting cast will only add to it.

[Amakhosi002]

I like this if we plan to move EG and play Tyreke as our starting SG. But not as our 3, we need 3pt shooting on the wing for our pick and roll game of AD and Jrue.

I feel like Demps wouldn't be trading for him as a SF, because he's obviously doesn't want to play there. So, hopefully, he's planning to move Gordon at some point.

[All Metro]

Tyreke is visiting the Hawks today. Our chances of him signing are decreasing with each visit but on the bright side, I doubt anyone is offering him more money than us.

[da ThRONe]

Tyreke is visiting the Hawks today. Our chances of him signing are decreasing with each visit but on the bright side, I doubt anyone is offering him more money than us.

The Hawks are a team with a ton of cap space and no players. I could see them outbidding us for Evans if they really like him.

[BallSoHard]

No they haven't. I've seen a few people say this, so I'll just address this now.

The only number for Tyreke that has really slipped is his minutes. He played 37 minutes in his 2nd season, 34 in his 3rd, and 31 in his 4th. If we adjust his numbers for per 36 minutes, you will see that his points, rebounds, steals, blocks, and asst:to ratio has stayed about the same. You can check the numbers for yourself here:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...evansty01.html

The one difference, however, is in scoring efficiency. Here is how his TS% has gone the past 3 years

Year 2: 48.2%
Year 3: 51.2%
Year 4: 55.8%

Now, to explain how he has become more efficient, we can look at hoopdata to see how he has adjusted his shot selection.

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Tyreke%20Evans

The dumb zone is considered anywhere that isn't at the rim or the 3pt line, so that's 3-23 feet. Let's break down the number of shots he gets in the dumb zone per year

Year 2: 7.6
Year 3: 5.6
Year 4: 3.6

Meanwhile, shots at the rim and 3 point line have been pretty consistent

Year 2: 6.2 at the rim (59.8%), 2.6 3's (43.7 eFG%; 67.4% Assisted)
Year 3: 7.0 at the rim (64.6%), 1.6 3's (30.3 eFG%; 75.0% Assisted)
Year 4: 6.0 at the rim (63.2%), 2.0 3's (50.0 eFG%; 81.4% Assisted)

And one last thing, despite his FGA at the rim barely being the lowest of the 3 years, his free throw rate has continued to improve.

Year 2: 0.283 free throws per shot
Year 3: 0.286 free throws per shot
Year 4: 0.350 free throws per shot

So not only is Tyreke taking less shots in the dumb zone and more in the efficient spots of the court, he is taking less 3's off the dribble as seen by the assisted% go up, and that is a good thing for Tyreke since the 3 is already hard enough for him. What we see is that a player is playing smarter and more within himself, lowering his TO%, shooting better shots, and drawing more free throws. I expect this trend to continue as he gets more experienced and his understanding of the game continues to grow.

Thank you, this was part of the whole movement to advanced stats to be able to judge things like this. And if (most) fans can see through this paper thin argument (he played for a bad team and his numbers were inflated) then im sure Dell can and did.

[BallSoHard]

Tyreke is visiting the Hawks today. Our chances of him signing are decreasing with each visit but on the bright side, I doubt anyone is offering him more money than us.

Doubt it. If we have the highest bid, it'll be us versus the Kings.

[kclaboy504]

The head of steem this caught. I thought for sure Evans would of signed or agreed to the offer by now, maybe tonight?? I sure hope so. So dam excited for this move,