Bucks prefer Ellis over Jennings?

[BLT23]

I'd never give Jennings anything close the max, cant understand a team paying that to someone that isnt even a top 10 pg...

[Pelicans78]

BTW, Ellis is terrible. He shouldn't be a starter in this league. Perfect example of a combo guard off the bench.

[MonsterMash]

Over 5% more, Ellis>>>>>>Jennings and it's not even close.

He made 2% more of his chucks last year and shot 28 percent from 3. Also turns it over more than Jennings (despite Jennings being the primary point guard) and is a worse defender. Ellis' career FG% is only where it is because he never used to take threes. Now he takes 4 a game and makes em at a cool 28-percent clip. Plus Ellis has been around long enough to where he pretty much is who he is. Jennings still has potential to improve significantly.

Jennings may have his warts, but Ellis > Jennings is laughable and assuming the $ is relatively close, the kind of decision that keeps the Bucks in constant mediocrity.

[nolaslim213]

He made 2% more of his chucks last year and shot 28 percent from 3. Also turns it over more than Jennings (despite Jennings being the primary point guard) and is a worse defender. Ellis' career FG% is only where it is because he never used to take threes. Now he takes 4 a game and makes em at a cool 28-percent clip. Plus Ellis has been around long enough to where he pretty much is who he is. Jennings still has potential to improve significantly.

Jennings may have his warts, but Ellis > Jennings is laughable and assuming the $ is relatively close, the kind of decision that keeps the Bucks in constant mediocrity.

Good post.

[PelsFan2313]

BTW, Ellis is terrible. He shouldn't be a starter in this league. Perfect example of a combo guard off the bench.

Didn't you hear? He's just as good as Dwayne Wade.

[demiurg]

Jennings at $8 million/year is fantastic value. I'd give him a Ryan Anderson contract, and see what he says. That still gives us $7 million for another guy, and we also have the MLE (about $5 million I think).

not if the Pelicans use their cap space

[FLYINGPELICANS]

This free agency will be fun to watch it unfold

[xulapaul]

Over the past 2 years, there have been rumors that Demps covets Jennings. Perhaps that has changed, but that is the heart of the issue. That, combined with his athleticism, offensive abilities, and his ability to pick up the ball at 3/4 court to start the defense. He can also run the break. Obviously, he has his issues, but a guy like him just needs a guy like Monty to reel him in and teach him how to play more under control.

I think I agree with this. I'm not a huge Jennings fan, but you can see the potential there. He's super-quick, a willing defender, and an aggressive offensive player. He needs more structure and direction to his game, and he needs to be mature. Maybe Monty is the kind of guy who can bring that out of him. He showed himself willing to play tough, attacking defense under Scott Skiles, so he's willing to learn and develop. I'm intrigued.

[GeauxPelicans]

He made 2% more of his chucks last year and shot 28 percent from 3. Also turns it over more than Jennings (despite Jennings being the primary point guard) and is a worse defender. Ellis' career FG% is only where it is because he never used to take threes. Now he takes 4 a game and makes em at a cool 28-percent clip. Plus Ellis has been around long enough to where he pretty much is who he is. Jennings still has potential to improve significantly.

Jennings may have his warts, but Ellis > Jennings is laughable and assuming the $ is relatively close, the kind of decision that keeps the Bucks in constant mediocrity.

Just to be clear, I don't like either player. Ellis, just doesn't play defense, and Jennings is a shooter who can't shoot. Of course Jennings is still young and has the potential to get better, but he's also a "large market" prima donna, who is more concerned about his brand than he is basketball. In other words he fits in perfectly with todays NBA. If be interested in signing Jennings for 4 years/32 million, but he won't sign it, and Milwaukee would match so I don't see the point. The most I'd offer Ellis would be 4 years/20 million, which he wouldn't accept either.

[Snarly]

Just to be clear, I don't like either player. Ellis, just doesn't play defense, and Jennings is a shooter who can't shoot. Of course Jennings is still young and has the potential to get better, but he's also a "large market" prima donna, who is more concerned about his brand than he is basketball. In other words he fits in perfectly with todays NBA. If be interested in signing Jennings for 4 years/32 million, but he won't sign it, and Milwaukee would match so I don't see the point. The most I'd offer Ellis would be 4 years/20 million, which he wouldn't accept either.

A shooter who can't shoot!

[MonsterMash]

Just to be clear, I don't like either player. Ellis, just doesn't play defense, and Jennings is a shooter who can't shoot. Of course Jennings is still young and has the potential to get better, but he's also a "large market" prima donna, who is more concerned about his brand than he is basketball. In other words he fits in perfectly with todays NBA. If be interested in signing Jennings for 4 years/32 million, but he won't sign it, and Milwaukee would match so I don't see the point. The most I'd offer Ellis would be 4 years/20 million, which he wouldn't accept either.

Fair enough.

[GeauxPelicans]

A shooter who can't shoot!

Agree or disagree?

[Snarly]

Don't disagree. The phrase itself is funny.

[mxlad1]

I don't blame Milwaukee. Jennings is a head case. I don't even think he wants to be in Milwaukee anymore. He's too busy trying to get a spot with a big market team so he can fit in with the crowd.

He tries to do too much. In a starting role where he doesn't have the weight of a team's success on his shoulders I think he'd be great.

I like the comment someone said about "a big market" being Jennings' Phoenix. You've got to remember he lives in Milwaukee, WI and has since he was 19 years old. Anywhere is an upgrade from Milwaukee as far as exposure. They consistently make the playoffs and no one knows they exist.

Most every "big market" team (New York, Brooklyn, LAL, LAC, Boston, Chicago) has a PG (or in NY's case a point forward, and when he's not in a ~$3 mil a year guy runs the team for 10 minutes/game) so he's not going to get a team that he has in mind. Dallas is his best shot at and if it came down to us and them for the same amount of money, you'd have to think playing with AD and potentially Gordon for Monty in a newly remodeled arena with a BRAND new practice facility in NOLA is a lot more enticing than playing with OJ Mayo and a 50 year old Dirk.

[MonsterMash]

Especially with the luxury tax limiting what teams can spend and what some teams can do via sign and trade, what some of these FA want and actually will get are probably really diverse scenarios.

Jennings wants a big contract and a big market. He could have some trouble finding that combination depending on how FA shakes out. Dallas IMO is his most likely destination, but if they catch another fish or don't see him as an answer then he's out of luck. A place like Atlanta could be in play as well, but not sure if that really fits his criteria, plus they'll probably just resign Teague since they control his rights.

If the Bucks are willing to let him test/walk, I think we'd actually be in play. Not the favorite, mind you, but selling him on being part of a 1-2 with Davis could entice him if the offers aren't right elsewhere.

[kclaboy504]

Jennings at $8 million/year is fantastic value. I'd give him a Ryan Anderson contract, and see what he says. That still gives us $7 million for another guy, and we also have the MLE (about $5 million I think).

You can't honestly think he isn't going to get much more than that in the open market?? I see him fetching 12m/yr from a team desperate to make a splash. Aka Dallas. If he would end up playing for 8m/yr it ain't gonna be here that's for sure.

[HalfBreed]

Jennings would throw so many alleys to AD, Aminu, and Gordon. Gravy not a good alley passer we definetly need a PG that can throw alleys

[Snarly]

Jennings would throw so many alleys to AD, Aminu, and Gordon. Gravy not a good alley passer we definetly need a PG that can throw alleys

We also need one who knows the limits of their game. He will take away touches from Davis and Gordon. Regardless of where he ends up, he needs to look at himself in the mirror and realize that he isn't as good of a scorer as he think he is. Once he does, he will finally become a good player.

[Eman5805]

We also need one who knows the limits of their game. He will take away touches from Davis and Gordon. Regardless of where he ends up, he needs to look at himself in the mirror and realize that he isn't as good of a scorer as he think he is. Once he does, he will finally become a good player.

I hope someone can take his fair share of touches too. Gordon, Davis, and Anderson can't take all the shots.

Not license for him to take million shots, but all the same.

[Mr. West]

Can someone please sell me on Jennings? So many people so high on him around here but I don't see much to like. High volume shooter, low efficiency, coming with a (probably) high price tag? Hollinger says he's an inconsistent but average defender and he shot under 40% this year from the field. I don't get it.

[Eman5805]

Not so many. It's pretty much me and maybe...two others? And I can't even call them by name because I'm not sure they actually exist.

I believe in Jennings because he's an available player with the ability to be a dynamic asset. He's been in the league, what, 3 years for the same team and he's been the only real scoring option or elite talent for all but the last, and the other elite talent is someone just like him, only worse from deep. Never had a guy that he can run the pick and pop with, never had a big he could run the floor with until last year.

My idea is that he gets better, not that he comes here and does the exact same thing, just in our uni. In a different environment, I think we could see great things from Jennings partnering up with Davis.

That said, it all depends on where Trey Burke goes. And after that, where Bledsoe goes. Then Jennings is who I want.