What do you think it will take to get him.
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What do you think it will take to get him.
I posted this in another thread, 3-way trade, gives us both Cousins and Bledsoe. Sacramento also gets our 1st round pick, top-7 protected.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=d7cpnor
Why does Sacramento make this deal?Originally Posted by nolaslim213
"I'm not going to allow my putative owner to answer that question, this is an NBA related press conference. Paul Tagliabue and Roger Goodell have collectively sung their praises of Tom and if uh ESPN has a problem with that tell Mr. Skipper to call me at my office."
Firstly, they are desperate to get rid of Cousins. I think this was the last straw, and Smart was the only guy in that franchise that defended Cousins, and even he said he has some decisions to make.
Also, they get a lot of quality depth/locker room guys in this trade, plus a 1st round pick. Butler starts at SF, Jason Smith starts at PF, and Vasquez is either a starter or a 6th man for them. Turiaf gives them cheap depth at Center and helps them get through this season.
Cousins' value is at an all-time low, so they won't get what he's worth. This is a good offer, IMO.
They wouldn't. He's probably going to say that they have no choice and should take whatever they can, which is true to an extent. But they arnt that desperate and he's under contract so they will get better offers than that.
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Also, nothing wrong with creating a separate thread for this. This is involves actual news. I mean it's not like we have a massive flood of the same topics going on. Just different threads for acquiring different players.
Anywho. Has there EVER been a trade suggestion that everyone went 'What a brilliant move. I never even thought of it. I hope we do this!'?
You really think other teams are going to give up top dollar for Cousins? There is no chance. I think Smith and Vasquez are long-term glue guys for them, Butler starts and is a nice expiring next year as a trade asset, and they get a 1st round pick from a horrible team. That is good value, considering their situation.
Not top dollars, just more than our scraps.
I suggested Kaman and Ariza for Lewis and something else (can't remember), and everyone called me a moron and how Washington would never do that. Look what happened. Kaman actually had way more value than Okafor, and they still made the deal.
Jason Smith and Vasquez are elite bench players, and they are both young and on great contracts. Our 1st round pick is worth a lot, so I don't see how that is scraps.
Not trying to argue with you but I would disagree. Just go look at almost every other teams message board. They are talking about how they can get him too. I don't see them biting unless you completely unprotected the pick, but hey itd all opinion
I'd go as far as making our first rounder top-five protected.
Bledsoe & Cousins together seems too much of a win for us... but I think Cousins is very available right now. That team needs defense, not offense, so something built around Lopez, Aminu (theyre lacking at the 3) and maybe Vazquez to a third team because they don't need any more PGs.
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That's kind of what I'm saying. Every suggested trade by a fan gets crapped on. But the trades that actually happen, I mean everyone said Orlando would make a killing when they unloaded Howard...didn't quite happen as planned did it?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c74wgo4
Hornets get:
Evans
Bledsoe
Kings get:
Odom
Aminu
Hornets unprotected 2013 1st
Clippers get
Cousins
Smith
Vasquez
A- Say no to Evans.
B- The last thing I want to see is the Clippers with a post presence.
C- Kings are getting almost nothing here.
Wouldn't it make more sense to swap Cousins to us and Evans to the Clippers? Willie Green starts at the 2 for LAC, they could use 'Reke and Cousins isn't a bench C and they aren't going to bench DeAndre. Other than that, it could actually work
Wouldn't it make more sense to swap Cousins to us and Evans to the Clippers? Willie Green starts at the 2 for LAC, they could use 'Reke and Cousins isn't a bench C and they aren't going to bench DeAndre. Other than that, it could actually work
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cgb27ro
Hornets get:
Cousins
Bledsoe
Garcia
Kings get:
Lopez
Odom
Aminu
Hornets unprotected 2013 1st
Clippers get
Evans
Smith
Vasquez
Why do we do this?
We get two promising players to put together an amazing core of Bledsoe, Gordon, Davis, Anderson & Cousins. We get some much added low post toughness and an athletic guard
Why do the Kings do this?
They have a log jam at the guard and Cousins is hurting the team and is suspended. Give them a defensive presence at the 5, something they desperately need. They also get to dump Garcia's awful contract. Get a first round pick that will most likely be top 10 and Odom's expiring contract gives them lots of cap room.
Why do the Clippers do this?
Willie Green is not a great starting SG and Tyreke is a natural 2. Big upgrade and since Bledsoe doesn't play too much with CP3 on the team, GV is a veteran backup for a contender. Jason Smith is the most underrated part of all this, some much needed Frontcourt depth for a foul-prone duo of Jordan & Griffin
Last edited by AD23nEG10; 12-22-2012 at 05:09 PM.
Did you mean to put Lopez over Aminu? Otherwise, the Kings' description makes no sense.
no the guy is too much of a headcase
It's pretty hard to get suspended in the Kings organization. I'd be very weary of the kid. I want him nowhere near Davis. He's one of those guys you'll love to have at 26-27 when he matures but hate to have to develop him at 22.
my bad, Odom Aminu & Lopez, i'll fix it
I don't see LAC giving up Odom. He is their only depth, and they like him for some reason.
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I'm a little weary, but only because of the distraction aspect. I don't think for one iota of a second that Cousins would somehow influence Davis in some negative fashion.
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