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Maybe I missed it, but I don't see an actual link to Lowe's article, which is pretty spot on in my opinion--
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...s-nba-playoffs
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I tend to agree. The entire point of Lowe's article is the equation has changed given Boogie's injury, its unpredictability, and the level of play we've produced post-Boogie. It would be foolish, given those factors, to not at least consider drawing the line somewhere when it relates to number of years. For reasons already discussed, number of years shouldn't be an issue anyways, since 2+1 is optimal for both sides.
Last edited by PelsFan2313; 04-24-2018 at 02:35 PM.
"I'm not going to allow my putative owner to answer that question, this is an NBA related press conference. Paul Tagliabue and Roger Goodell have collectively sung their praises of Tom and if uh ESPN has a problem with that tell Mr. Skipper to call me at my office."
I think DeMarcus can be sold on resigning at a short-term, less-the-max contract. If you sell him on the ability to bring in quality free agents with the extra cap space. Also, that the short-term deal will allow the front office to come back in a few years to offer a contract to recoup and reward him for injury recovery/taking less money to help the team.
I think the Heat when they had their "big 3" did something similar. Also, same concept with the Warriors: Superstars taking shorter/less than max contracts soothes can bring in more above average players. Sell him on building something special to make this a championship team.
The national media hates when a small market team succeeds. Keeping Boogie is not only important to maximizing the most talent we can collect on this team, but it is also extremely important in keeping AD happy. We cannot replace Boogie's talent if we lose him. We do not have the cap space. With that being said, we should not give him a 5 year max deal as no one else will. Boogie likes New Orleans, and we are now a winning organization with a bright future. Boogie is recovering from a devastating injury and already had a reputation for personality concerns. He fits on this team in new Orleans with a players coach and two good friends in Davis and Rondo. I think a 2+1 (player option) deal for $27 million a year is appropriate. We need to re-sign Rondo and Clark to run this team back. Having Boogie and AD hit the market at the same time allows them to possibly recruit a third star to join them in Nola when the time comes.
I am all in for a 2+1 deal for boogie so he and AD will match their deals. We can decide or they can what will happen when the time comes.
No way we let boogie walk
I know I'm probably in the minority, but don't like Jrue, AD, and DMC with the option of all leaving at same time. Would rather gamble on a 4 plus 1 with incentives and injury exceptions. Much like Jrue's deal but ends year after AD has to take super max or leave.
It's not. For one thing he completely forgets about Frank Jackson and the fact that the team still does have a draft pick this year. Then he hedges his bets by playing both sides of the fence. I.e. parrots all the negative stats with Davis and Cousins on the floor as a reason why they shouldn't go hard for him, but then states that the team was playing better before he went down, and the Pelicans will need Cousins to compete with the best in the west. Plus the fact that the roster was still in flux the first half of the season and obviously no Mirotic.
It's just all over the place with no concrete thesis beyond the obvious.
He's just doing the media guy thing, where he talks and talks and talks, so that he can say he's been talking. Fills the airspace, makes it look like he's paying attention to the entire league without having to actually do any real analysis of the smaller markets, and lets him say he was right regardless of what happens because he predicted both sides.
Basketball.
Last edited by N.O.Bronco; 04-24-2018 at 05:08 PM.
Lowe also talks about the Pelicans needing someone to succeed Miller, Rondo, Moore, and Hill. I can see possibly someone to take Hill and Rondo's place, but why Moore and Miller? And again, no mention of Jackson and Ian Clark or this year's pick. Outside of Rondo none of them are old men and Miller is a"young" 28. He hasn't been through the wears and tears of pro ball very long either.
I guarantee you if this same roster was in NY, L.A., Dallas, or Chicago, this entire piece would have been about why this team is ready to win the west next year.
My comments about a 1 year deal were aimed at the people discussing a one year deal in this thread, not Lowe. As my post you quoted says, I clearly state Lowe was purposely vague on what a short term deal was.
If you were actually interested in discussing instead of trying take cheap shots or argue you'd have seen this. The Pels swept the 1st round, be happy.
Last edited by Mythrol; 04-24-2018 at 06:23 PM.
It's just an article fellas calm down.. not every writer is out to get the Pelicans and bash them lol. I don't really see where Lowe said anything wrong outside of it not fitting in under some people's schedule because the Pelicans won a series. I don't agree with him on some things in the article but he's not necessarily lying or going after us.
Last edited by GuardianAngel25; 04-24-2018 at 06:30 PM.
HERE'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO
TOTAL
2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 LESS 2021 PLAYER OPTION
Jrue Holiday PG $25,686,667 $26,161,111 $26,896,111 $26,161,111 $27,050,000 $104,905,000 4 YRS
PLUS INCENTIVES
2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 TOTAL
LESS 2017 PAID CONTRACT
LESS 2022 PLAYER OPTION
DeMarcus Cousins C $18,063,850 $26,086,667 $26,561,111 $27,296,111 $26,561,111 $27,450,000 $106,505,000 4 YRS
PLUS INCENTIVES
2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 TOTAL
Anthony Davis PF $23,775,506 $25,434,263 $27,093,019 $28,751,775 UFA $105,054,563 4 YRS
"I think we should offer him a five year deal with team option on the last four years at vet minimum and Dell is awful if Boogie walks or we offer him more."
- local NOLA basketball beat writers who seem to prefer writing emo pieces about how bad we are
Good positive energy.
But also, yo mama's fat.
You need to calm down with the short temper passive aggressiveness mythrol. You rolled an opening sentence into a diatribe against Lowe and "the national media" that by all indications implied a connection. No need to start with the implied insults for advancing some clarification.
Lowe wasn't all that vague. He specifically said early discussions are centered around 2-3 years and below the max.
Any sort of deeper nefarious motive is purely speculative and isn't borne out by any patterns in Lowe's prior reporting. The opposite in fact. He seems to have basically a perfect track record with sourcing internal matters with the Pels and is one of the better national analysts of our team. Who if anything seems to have a soft spot for Jrue and Davis over the years.The Pelicans have broached internally the idea of offering Cousins a two- or three-year deal at less than the max, per sources familiar with the discussions. I would not expect that to go over well with Cousins' camp. But the Pelicans have the dual leverage of winning without Cousins and a tepid market for him.
Last edited by N.O.Bronco; 04-24-2018 at 07:36 PM.
Sign and trade for Leonard.
I really like the 2+1 contract or something similar that AD and Boogie would be FA at the same year/off season...My biggest concern is if we give boogie the max...How do we fill out the rest of the roster? Rondo will want a raise and same for Clark. Will they take the MLE to stay or bi annual?
The more I look at this, the more convinced that we may be able to get KL here easier than PG. SA has no center, LA and Pau are there PFs along with Lauvergne who has a PLAYER OPTION this summer and he never sees the court anyway. Pop's statement and KL absence makes it hard to believe that they let him possibly leave next summer for nothing, PO, and/or have to super max him the following year. They have the possibility of Manu and Parker leaving as well. We can OFFER, along with whatever draft picks they want, 1 and 2, 2019, with SH, EM and CD. This move solves a lot of issues for both teams.
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