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He is just so bad on D I mean damnOriginally Posted by Pelicanidae
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James Harden is just ridiculous. When I think of offensive players to stop this guy is no doubt one of the toughest to scheme against. I really don't know what in the world to do to stop him. You put shooters around him and man it's gonna be a long night!
What do you do to stop him?
I have no idea, but a good start would be call him for his frequent push-offs, travels, carrying, and don't give him 10+ FTAs a night. He's still drop 25 cause he's so talented, but it would go some way to limit him.
Watching Pelicans games is what Georges Bataille meant by limit experiences.
Harden travels on those side step 3s. I dont care what anybody says. 3 steps is 3 steps even if they're little slick ones.
Hardens gonna get his so you stop everyone else
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I don't understand the twolves..cp3 and harden switch on defense and guard Kat in the paint and the twolves shoot jumpers instead of going inside to the mismatch......they do on us with harden guarding ad or boogie in the paint and we don't take advantage of that situation either smh......
Harden will get his but if you make him play defense and punish him by making him get fouls when he is guarding a big in the paint then he will pick up some fouls and would have to sit majority of the first half.....he can't hurt you if he is not in the game long.....
Thibs said he needs to "be more like AD" hahaha
Pels took advantage of that heavily in the game Boogie got hurt. Up until mid 3rd quarter at least. Then they went stupid again.
wait really?
I think that was Kumar just making a joke on Twitter.
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The game we beat them where Boogie got hurt, we had Liggins hounding Harden and it worked very well. We outcoached and outplayed Houston in that game. We actually match up well with Houston, imo.
Yes and harden got tired or had fouls and had to sit out for awhile and then cp3 got hot lol but harden was not the killer....
Ridiculous
Harden clearly sets his pivot foot twice on the step back. This is a travel. #RocketsNation pic.twitter.com/0WYi8wATyF
— Dan Worthington (@danWorthington) April 16, 2018
Disgraceful
Lol I would gladly take harden on my team
Yeah especially the way the refs ride this dude you might as well have him on your squad.
I'm a grinder
Lol nah fam that man is a beast and he deserves the mvp... he earned it this year
He's a fantastic basketball player. Any team would be lucky to have him. But it's easy to see why fans of opposing teams hate on him and his style of play. Is it effective? Hell yes. Is it fun to watch? No.
That being said, Harden deserves MVP this year and will win it rather convincingly.
Last edited by PelsFan2313; 04-16-2018 at 11:19 PM.
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That isn't a travel or whatever people want to call it. His 2nd step is taken with his right foot which then makes it his plant foot and perfectly legal as long as he doesn't move it. He can do whatever he wants with that left foot as long as he doesn't move his right "plant" foot. That left foot might look like a 3rd step buts it's not.
That's a travel. It's like someone that takes a step and then does a jump stop. You can't take a step and then do a jump stop with it. It's either two steps or plant with both feet and elevate. Not both. He picks up the dribble and steps back with his right, then left, then right again, then brings his left foot back and jumps. It like taking three steps or closer to taking two steps and a jump stop, which is usually traveling. I guess they let him do it because he's going backwards. Not to mention how hard it is to make a step back shot like that. Maybe they figure if he misses its just as good as a travel.
But hey, they never call traveling in the NBA anyway...
Last edited by P_B_&_G; 04-16-2018 at 11:42 PM.
Basically this.
I've said it before on this forum: Harden in specific and the Rockets in a more general sense do not play good basketball very often. They have a certain set of tricks and tools that they use in place of actual good basketball; those tricks happen to play perfectly into the biases of the referees and take advantage of the flaws of the rule set. It is technically legal, for the most part, and it allows them to put up points in abundance. But it is not good basketball; it's an effective trick that they've become very efficient at pulling off. That's all.
Basically. If you could just legally do what Harden does, then the Dream Shake (which relied on the use of the hop allowing both feet to become potential pivots) wouldn't be special; it's special because it basically does what Harden does, but legally. Harden doesn't have that kind of footwork, but he's mastered this kind of fake's version.
Doesn’t kyrie and Damian uses that same move.... even AD somethimes
Personally, I don't have a problem with it if the refs don't call it. I loved Jordan in his heyday but he got away with murder. You have to adjust to the way the game is called.
Harden seems to take an extra step.
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