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You either do not know what a chucker is or have not watched Rubio in too many games. How many "chuckers" shoot 8 times a game while playing 30+ minutes a game? Rubio is not a great shooter, but his mid-range is pretty good. He also averages about 9 assists a game, a couple steals a game and shoots 90% from the line. I want a PG who can facilitate and get the ball to AD and DC and not be a huge shooter. Alone, he is not the answer. But coupled with some shooting pieces, I think he is a good fit at a relatively decent price.
KCP is a wing. Porter is a wing.
Wing is a position of need.
Everybody wants wings.
DET and WAS would love not to pay max to both of them. But if they will have to - they will match.
IMO KCP is almost certain to get max.
You only need one team and one offer.
In the past Utah did not wanted to give Hayward max. He signed an offer sheet with Hornets with 4th year player option. this year it might bite Jazz.
Sacto offered Boogie only 4 years in place of 5. With longer contract Sacto might have get more for him etc.
Those are team building decisions.
I'd much rather see if they've completely soured on Dunn and see what it would take to get him.
But I also have been watching every minute of these Celtics games because someone in their backcourt is going to be the odd man out. Marcus Smart might be a good target.
I don't get this league. How is KCP a max player? His defense is solid but not all world, he doesn't create his own shots at a star level, he can't create for others, and he's a subpar career 3pt shooter(he shot his best this year @35% and is a career 33%). I'd never be a buyer in a market that sees KCP getting a max deal.
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The reason he gets a "max deal" is because a max deal exist and there's a salary cap (floor and ceiling). If there was no "max deal" and free agency operated like a true free market, he probably wouldn't get that much. But a team like the Pistons might spend 70% of whatever they budget for players on a free agent like Gordon Hayward and guys like Curry and Durant would be pushing for ownership percentages in addition to salary this summer. Sports leagues are weird.
I'm all for spending a 2018 first rounder for Rubio, signing a good shooter and basically calling it a day (letting Jrue walk). Then hopefully Diallo takes a leap and we get lucky with a signing like we did last year with instant grits. Roll one more year with Asik just so we will have more cap room Next year before signing Cousins. That should be enough to at least be a five seed with competent coaching and health.
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But someone will, because they know the true superstars that are worth twice the current max, are still capped at the "max". Look at the Warriors and Cavs. If they had to play their real superstars what they were truly worth, there's no way they'd give max deals to anyone else because the guys that deserve it would soak up all the room.
Or look at the Pelicans. If they had to play true value for AD and Cousins, do you think they'd even entertain giving Jrue a "max"?
These arbitrary caps and floors and maxes are why above average players get paid like they're superstars.
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