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    Pelicans 12 days since the end of RS...

    And Gentry continues as head coach of the Pelicans. And as a present, Demps too.

    WHY WHY WHY?

    WHEN IS THE MEETING WITH BENSON AND OTHER STAFF? WHERE AND WHEN?


    I can't understand this franchise, we are going to the hole and Davis and Cousins gifted to other teams in 2-3 years for draft picks and young players (again).

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    I don't think either is going anywhere.

    The standard way this team operates, the trade for Cousins will be seen as reason enough to give Demps another season without even hesitating.

    He's supposed to improve the team and he did.

    Finding reasons to say it was more the King's idiocy or whatever ain't how this team rolls.

    This offseason will be...interesting to say the least.

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    How did he improve the team? He is a asset no doubt but he brings plenty of Liabilities also.
    We beat the Cavs without Davis and D.C.
    We beat the Spurs with out D.C.
    I also vividly remember getting BLOWN off the floor against the Rockets in DC first game in the Blender.
    We need a Head Coach that can get us to 50 wins.
    Not a game manager like Alvin Gentry.
    We need a Floor General and a good round of shooters. Players to capitalize on what the defense weakness is at any given moment with a Head Coach giving them the green light to go.
    Not run his BS plays.
    I sure hope as a avid supporter of this ball club Mr. Benson makes the tough business decision to end the Alvin Gentry experiment ASAP
    Last edited by Buckwheat; 04-25-2017 at 03:38 PM.

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    WHY WHY WHY?
    Because the person that would clean house if that were to happen is a little busy right now and won't be unbusy until he's finished signing the Saints rookie class in a few weeks.

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    (Extremely MM voice) I remember when fire Monty was all anyone could talk about. You mean to tell me these people are no happier?

    For real though, I don't like Gentry but the line of thinking that he was so unbelievably bad that every day he's employed is offensive seems misguided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. West View Post
    (Extremely MM voice) I remember when fire Monty was all anyone could talk about. You mean to tell me these people are no happier?

    For real though, I don't like Gentry but the line of thinking that he was so unbelievably bad that every day he's employed is offensive seems misguided.
    Well he is an offensive specialist coach, but surprisingly every day he's been employed has been more defensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    I don't think either is going anywhere.

    The standard way this team operates, the trade for Cousins will be seen as reason enough to give Demps another season without even hesitating.

    He's supposed to improve the team and he did.

    Finding reasons to say it was more the King's idiocy or whatever ain't how this team rolls.

    This offseason will be...interesting to say the least.
    I agree with this. Plus the fact that Cousins has had so many coaches in his years in the NBA, the Pels might literally want to keep Gentry just to show more "Coach Stability" toward Cousins. Because we damn sure don't want to appear as unstable as the Kings.

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    Nothing is going to happen with Loomis until after the NFL draft is over. Then they will do their evaluations.

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    Loomis has draft till the end of the week

    Then he will sign his rookies

    So in the middle of May at the earliest they may evaluate.

    I have said it earlier: there won't be change this offseason.

    Not saying that I will agree with it (I don't) - Dell extended his time in NO after DMC trade. Alvin after great month of March showing potential.

    They have sold it to Loomis and Lauscha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUFshreve View Post
    Nothing is going to happen with Loomis until after the NFL draft is over. Then they will do their evaluations.
    This is why he shouldn't do both. Magic fired their GM right after the season and will be ahead of us in a search if we do remove Demps from his position.
    Last edited by da ThRONe; 04-26-2017 at 08:16 AM.

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    He should not.

    As to Magic - they want to promote their interim GM to real GM (per Steve Kyler), but are looking for experienced President of Basketball Operations.

    If only Pels will have such person...

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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    This is why he shouldn't do both. Magic fired their GM right after the season and will be ahead of us in a search if we do remove Demps from his position.
    They know this. If they were going to fire Dell they would have done it already.

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    Any GM we were to hire is going to be available whether it's today or 2 weeks from now.

    I also genuinely think if Loomis was going to fire Dell he'd already have a plan in place and would have pulled the trigger. Does anyone really think he's going to sit down in mid May and suddenly having a face to face changes his mind to firing Dell? Or that he couldn't spare 1 day before the draft to thinking about the Pels?

    I think Dell I safe. Probably Gentry too for that matter but I'm less sure of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP View Post
    They know this. If they were going to fire Dell they would have done it already.
    The lack of urgency does lends itself to this line of thinking unfortunately. However as an outside observers it looks as if the Pelicans aren't a priority. Demps should either have been given the stamp of approval or shown the door. Why no word from ownership either way?

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    Looked it up, Monty Williams wasn't fired until May 12. Sure we made the playoffs then, but that shows if it is going to happen, there's still potentially a lot more time that could go by before it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythrol View Post
    Does anyone really think he's going to sit down in mid May and suddenly having a face to face changes his mind to firing Dell?
    That's seems to be exactly what happened with Monty. If Loomis knew in April that the plan was to fire Monty and let Demps hire a new coach, why on earth would he wait until after signing the Saints rookies in May to make it formal and let Demps start the process of finding a new coach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BP225 View Post
    That's seems to be exactly what happened with Monty. If Loomis knew in April that the plan was to fire Monty and let Demps hire a new coach, why on earth would he wait until after signing the Saints rookies in May to make it formal and let Demps start the process of finding a new coach?
    Because I don't think Dell had the ability to fire Monty and so that situation required more careful planning. I also don't think Loomis knew at the time if he was going to fire Monty, Dell, or both until talking to them extensively. That seemed much more about a power struggle.

    I think the situation is different now because it would just be Loomis deciding if he wants to clean house or not. Again, not saying Dell won't be fired mid May, only that I could see it very likely that we are keeping him. Also I don't think anyine needs to worry about the magic somehow getting a GM we were going for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythrol View Post
    Because I don't think Dell had the ability to fire Monty and so that situation required more careful planning. I also don't think Loomis knew at the time if he was going to fire Monty, Dell, or both until talking to them extensively. That seemed much more about a power struggle.

    I think the situation is different now because it would just be Loomis deciding if he wants to clean house or not. Again, not saying Dell won't be fired mid May, only that I could see it very likely that we are keeping him. Also I don't think anyine needs to worry about the magic somehow getting a GM we were going for.
    You are assuming these things and talking as if they are a certainty. The point isn't that specifically the Magic will "take our GM"(assuming we even fire Demps) it's the fact that the sooner you start the process the better. Why are we waiting there's no benefit to waiting. Demps has been here 7 years either he's the guy or he isn't. If he's getting the ax the sooner the next guy can come in the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    You are assuming these things and talking as if they are a certainty. The point isn't that specifically the Magic will "take our GM"(assuming we even fire Demps) it's the fact that the sooner you start the process the better. Why are we waiting there's no benefit to waiting. Demps has been here 7 years either he's the guy or he isn't. If he's getting the ax the sooner the next guy can come in the better.
    How am I talking as if anything is certain? I've said multiple times that I could see either thing happening. I have the opinion he probably isn't getting fired but I'm by no means certain about it at all. I didn't think Monty would get fired after making the playoffs but he did.

    And your point about being here 7 years and the sooner the better is exactly why I don't think he's getting fire. Either he's the guy or he's not, so I think if Loomis was going to fire him he would have already and just made Ferry interim while we did a search and hire sometime after the draft (NFL).
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    Monty was fired 10 days after the end of NFL Draft. 7 days before draft lottery (Pels did not have pick there).
    You can at least assume that they may have some time to evaluate Pelicans. Doubt it - but it still might be a possibility.

    As for now - not even one coach was fired. Only one GM was fired. This MIGHT be telling.

    Don't sayin' that expect a movement there, but it is leaguewide situation...

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    TIME TO START A HAMIDOU DIALLO THREAD ANYONE?????

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    Pawel the cheap route would to fire Alvin Gentry give the job to Darren Ermin.

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    I dont like cheap routes.

    Change both. Appoint a POBO. Get a new GM and HC.
    Or remain with Dell and Alvin. Give them last chance.

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    Article by Scott. Not really anything new here but the main take away is the feeling that things are still very much up in the air with Dell and Gentry.

    http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orlea...0b7acd004.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythrol View Post
    Article by Scott. Not really anything new here but the main take away is the feeling that things are still very much up in the air with Dell and Gentry.

    http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orlea...0b7acd004.html
    Diallo giving Cook that warm loving embrace that Alvin's always wanted.

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