Several NBA coaches/GMs say Alvin Gentry's coaching seat on fire in New Orleans. May be just matter of weeks, if not days, they believe.
— Sam Amico (@AmicoHoops) November 13, 2016
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Report: Gentry may have just days remaining
Several NBA coaches/GMs say Alvin Gentry's coaching seat on fire in New Orleans. May be just matter of weeks, if not days, they believe.
— Sam Amico (@AmicoHoops) November 13, 2016
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I have quite a few issues with Gentry, but he is being dealt a hand that maybe only 1 or 2 coaches in the league could maneuver with.
Demps is the real issue here.
Loomis and Co. need to get their heads in the game and do this right. Gentry's failure is a reflection on Demp's decision making. If he fired Monty, who had this team at least fighting with heart, to hire another failure, the buck stops with Demps.
I wonder if this is Demps once again blaming everyone else but himself. It's not his players that stink and don't fit, its the coach. Secretly Solomon Hill is Jae Crowder/Demarre Carroll and Gentry has just failed to get it out. I am sure that is what is happening here...
Last edited by N.O.Bronco; 11-13-2016 at 02:50 PM.
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Demps must go too then.
It's only logical.
Yep.Originally Posted by Eman5805
Complete overhaul is needed.
I agree, but all of this is something that should be done in the off season IMO.
This franchise needs to start seeing the big picture and doing things right.
I mean for all the crap Joe Alleva gets from LSU fans, it was enlightening to hear how they will likely bring in an outside consultaning group, in co-ordination with their own people, to vet and organize a robust catalogue on viable coaching candidates to help make the best decision. I mean why the heck can't Loomis do something like that but for the GM? We know he is busy, so bring in people who can help with the leg work so you can better make the right decision.
If this is true on November 13 when the Saints are in the thick of the playoff race, it's probably a Demps move, not a Loomis move.
Why not, but he needs to move with Demps otherwise it's pointless.
And who is available to take over ? I'm not sure JVG will give up his job right now. A college coach like Shaka Smart neither. An assistant of another team won't move that early in the season. That leaves us with Byron Scott...
Lol what? That's a huge stretch
I don't care if Gentry is fired this week, as long as Demps follows him this off season. Erman can get his walking papers too. Our defense with HIS players has sucked terribly.
What's the point in changing the driver after a car has gone off the cliff?
To me this move would just be nothing but a gesture to the fans that they don't want to lose right now. Getting rid of Demps is the same. Would it be a reasonable expectation that ANY coach/GM gets us to the playoffs this season? You could get Pop and Buford and we wouldn't make the playoffs with our roster or flipping our assets. If you blame Gentry, Demps, or Benson what good would the upheaval do than serve as a gesture that losing is unacceptable. If anything adding further turmoil, especially if we have interim coaches changing schemes, serves to do nothing than interrupt our cohesion. If we want to make this move, we should do it at the end of the season since there is nothing else we're playing for in the meantime and we can see what progress we can make as the season goes on.
.......if healthy
@Jabberwalker
Yeah Demps needs to go to before we trade our 1st round pick again for another stale young NBA veteran.
You are about 4 days late on your breaking news.
http://www.pelicansreport.com/showth...ut-to-be-fired
Last edited by Champ; 11-13-2016 at 06:08 PM.
I think it's crazy to move anyone now. Maybe late in the season or if there is a GM we can get earlier. Never good to make a move just to make one.
The problem is Loomis and Benson.
They make the calls.
Until that changes this team will suck.
At this point, I don't see why they wouldn't give Gentry atleast 10 games or so, with Jrue Holiday playing. See how the team looks then. I'm not a big fan of mid-season coaching changes. Just can em both in the off-season, that way our new GM and HC will have a top 3 pick to work with.
My concern is that Demps will trade that pick in an effort to try and save his job this season. I would rather he be gone sooner than later.
No particular affection to Gentry, but firing him mid season seems to do little for us. Clean house in the off-season, Demps and Gentry.
@DanielVeuleman
I just don't understand how coaches get blamed for everything that happens to a team. This has nothing to do with Gentry and his staff. Give them a break!
As the old adage goes, "Players play and coaches coach." The players have to take it upon themselves to raise their levels of play up. Gentry, Erman, Pack and Weber can't go on the floor and play for them.
But the coaches can put the players in a better position to succeed which both Gentry and Erman have failed to do. It's like the players quit on these two during the Lakers game. At least Monty had the respect of this team and was able to develop the players somewhat.
Gentry was just a bad hire. We replaced Monty with the wrong guy. The hiring of Gentry was like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. This roster's core group doesn't match the system he is trying to implement.
pretty much...
"we might make dollars, but we don't necessarily make sense"
"always be sincere....whether you mean it or not"
That's so cliche'. Even when Gentry calls plays and get open shots the players don't make the shots. The coach can't do anything about guys missing shots, or guys letting the ball handler blow by them. Coaches get blamed for everything but I guess its easier to replace the coach than it is to replace the player.
That's false. We scored like hell we just couldn't stop teams from scoring. So now Demps bring in these "defensive" guys like Galloway, Hill and Moore, and now we can't score. We created 2 problems by trying to fix one.
But yeah blame Gentry.
I'd go a step farther. I think coaches can preach a scheme but the players act of their own volition much more often than people give them credit. Monty and Gentry were pretty different in their coaching philosophies, yet under both we saw Reke or Stephenson dribbling out possessions late in the game. I remember during the Reke/Monty days people were calling for Monty to be fired because they thought that play was Monty's call. Now we see a very similar player with a very different coach doing the exact same thing. I saw people on here and Twitter immediately calling out Gentry for it but do you think Gentry really said, "Hey guys, I know I've made a career preaching ball movement, and just won a championship with a team who's offense I designed which used a ton of passing, but for this possession, I want Lance Stephenson to dribble the ball for 15 seconds and then try to beat any defenders and then if he has to pass, make sure whoever he passes to has less than a second to shoot".
Or is it more likely Gentry said "Hey Lance, let the clock go down so they can't get another shot, try to create for others, let's move off the ball and let's try to get an open look"?
But I guess Occam's razor doesn't apply here because it's more convenient to believe that firing the coach will fix our problems.
I don't by any means put all the blame on Gentry. Our players are absolutely missing shots they should be making. I do blame the defense and game pace on the coaches however.
Gentry, Erman, Dell brought brought in players that were supposed to be more athletic, able to switch and defend multiple positions and run our defensive scheme better. They have failed utterly in doing this. 10 games in should be enough to realize that adjustments must be made. We cannot continue at our pace of trying to maximize possessions if our defense is unable to defend. This falls directly on Gentry and Erman.
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