I think the argument more about what happens to AD when Ryan is off/on. AD shoots a higher percentage and also gets inside a lot moreOriginally Posted by AD23forMVP
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I think the argument more about what happens to AD when Ryan is off/on. AD shoots a higher percentage and also gets inside a lot more
Ryno is a good ancillary player. He should never be counted on to be a go to guy. All of this top 30, starting in this league stuff was blown way out of proportion. If I were his coach I'd tell him to stand on the 3pt line and wait for an open shot. If it's not open, pass and repeat. That's his recipe.
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Can we all just agree that AD would be fine without Ryno? Ryno would not be fine without AD, D12 so forth and so on.
I mean sure, AD is a great player regardless of Ryan Anderson but the numbers are pretty drastic.
With Ryan off the court: 27.9% of AD's shots come with in 0-3 feet and he shoots 67.4% on those shots
With Ryan on the court: 58.1% (!!!!!!) of AD's shots come with in 0-3 feet and he shoots 77% on those shots
Of course this isn't the be all and end all of the conversation, but it does provide evidence for the argument that Ryan opens up the paint A LOT when he is on the court; regardless of whether or not he is hitting.
And its not just AD, he's just the most drastic case. Tyreke, Gordon, Holiday all see similar effects.
Last edited by PhilJFry; 04-09-2015 at 02:03 PM.
I think the main argument should be..."Does Ryan Anderson help us enough on offense to overlook his terrible defense." He just seems overmatched vs bench bigs and way over matched vs starting bigs on defense. I think Ryan Anderson is a luxury asset for the team not a core piece. He should be shooting 10 shots a game and not ever a go to player in an offense. Our second unit has to rely to much on him. One reason I want Jrue to come back. Even if he doesn't start..2nd units gets tremendously better with Reke or Jrue playing PG instead of Tony Douglas.I mean sure, AD is a great player regardless of Ryan Anderson but the numbers are pretty drastic.
With Ryan off the court: 27.9% of AD's shots come with in 0-3 feet and he shoots 67.4% on those shots
With Ryan on the court: 58.1% (!!!!!!) of AD's shots come with in 0-3 feet and he shoots 77% on those shots
Of course this isn't the be all and end all of the conversation, but it does provide evidence for the argument that Ryan opens up the paint A LOT when he is on the court; regardless of whether or not he is hitting.
And its not just AD, he's just the most drastic case. Tyreke, Gordon, Holiday all see similar effects.
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Nice find!I mean sure, AD is a great player regardless of Ryan Anderson but the numbers are pretty drastic.
With Ryan off the court: 27.9% of AD's shots come with in 0-3 feet and he shoots 67.4% on those shots
With Ryan on the court: 58.1% (!!!!!!) of AD's shots come with in 0-3 feet and he shoots 77% on those shots
Of course this isn't the be all and end all of the conversation, but it does provide evidence for the argument that Ryan opens up the paint A LOT when he is on the court; regardless of whether or not he is hitting.
And its not just AD, he's just the most drastic case. Tyreke, Gordon, Holiday all see similar effects.
I agree he makes everyone have easier looks in the paint, with just his presence (or "gravity") alone. Like most on this forum, I hate that midrange fading jumper he always tries. I am not sure if that is the play call, or him trying to do to much. But either way it needs to stop. I love his under the basket and 3 pt game though. I am not sure if he will ever be as efficient as he was in 13-14 again, it was only a 22 game sample size. But a 12-13 Ryan isnt to much to ask for.
Definitely. I'm hoping that Monty is beginning to figure that out. Take the last two games as example. Against GSW there was no major post threat so Ryan played 30 minutes. Against Memphis he would basically always be overmatched and so he only played 12 minutes.
I wasn't really arguing for Ryan either way. I think he's been pretty awful this year. But he can be a very positive player if, like you said ,we utilize him better. I was mainly providing evidence of what exactly Ryan does to our offense.
Monty had all this info at his disposal on April 1st. All he had to do was read one man's article
http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/20...erson-tidbits/
He has been bad, but he still can help in specific situations. He clearly needs to be the 3rd option on a unit, being utilized as more of a decoy for now until he gets his stroke back. That's on the coach IMO. Put him out there and ask him to help carry the second unit and he is gonna fail time after time.
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I think Ryno should play inside out more. Just coming in cold launching three's hasn't worked this season....Just saying
this thread
Here's my question for people - Do you think this is the Ryan Anderson we see for the rest of his career? Is he done? Will the rest of his career mirror this season or past seasons in your opinion?
I fully expect him to continue to struggle this season, but I think a full summer of conditioning gets him back to the old Ryno. What is your hypothesis?
I don't think Ryan is 100% do to his previous injury. Bring him back next season when he is fully healthy.
But then who can you rely on in the second unit to score out of Cole, DC, Ajinca, Douglas? Maybe Ajinca, but he seems so hot and cold to me. Sometimes he seems like a starter, other times he seems like he shouldnt be on an NBA team. I think honestly the answer is to pull gordon/evans at the 6-7 min mark in the first and replace them with cole/DC so they can run with the second unit. Just so we have someone to go to, to run the offense. Thats why I think having Jrue back would be so good for us. Whether it be him coming of the bench with that unit or evans, it would be a world of difference.
My hypothesis is that someone should print your article
go to airline drive
tape many copies all over Monty's car
and then maybe he'll get the point.
Something to the effect of this:
Do you know how many trees you kill doing that?Something to the effect of this:
Enough to make the Pelicans an effective basketball team.
......seems worth it.
Do you know how many fan's you're killing by not doing that?
Ryno will have no value this summer. The obvious way to play this is to get him in the best shape of his life this summer and watch him have a bounce back season. Then, if you want to trade him, fine. But at least get some value.
Even if you dump him this summer, we won't have any cap space. So, what other alternatives are there?
I'm sure he reads this forum every morning with his coffee. No need to kill a tree.
I was listening to your podcast last night.
Do you think/hope the team pretty much stays as is?
What do we do with the MLE now?
He doesn't drink coffee.....that kills trees as well.
Well maybe he drinks milk?
Due to how our roster is set up, the cap, the jump in 2016, etc, yes I think the best realistic course of action is to just run it back. Unless Gordon opts out, which could change everything.
I use part of the MLE to re-sign Cunningham if I can't get Jae Crowder. Sit on the rest of the MLE in case someone becomes available during the season, in which it gives me an advantage.
I run that team back and look for trades in season. If I can't find anything great, I go into 2016 summer as one of the upcoming teams in the NBA with AD and a ton of cap space.
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So he's into killing cows, eh?
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