Coach Cal is probably my favorite coach of all time. He's amazing. Would be great to have him with us.
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Coach Cal is probably my favorite coach of all time. He's amazing. Would be great to have him with us.
Mac, I'm just pulling your chain. I'm not big on Avery either but I find it humorous that when we like a guy, we're willing to turn a blind eye whereas when we don't, past mistakes are unforgiveable. With that said, I'm not a fan of Calipari in the pro ranks.Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara
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It's all good, I get it.
Like I said, I think there are some concerns to put out there about Cal. I just won't put his failures 15 years ago as one of those things. I think, for instance, pointing to the overall success rate of college coaches might be a better argument. Or his lack of offensive creativity.
I wouldn't hold 15 years ago against anybody. I wouldn't want people to judge my 34 year old self by my 19 year old self
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Maybe the rumor of "a guy who's coached here before" a week or 2 ago isn't Mike Malone at all but Cal, who won the Davis title in the Superdome.
I am in favor of retaining Monty but if not Coach Cal would be my first choice. You can criticize his X & 0's offensive scheme and lack of NBA success but it is hard to ignore his ability to manage players and games. I believe he maximizes and recognizes players strengths and abilities and gets his teams to play to their highest ability. I think this is the the preeminent quality required in a basketball coach in college AND the nba and I think Coach Cal excels and gets this.
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sign him and hope that he can once again recruit all his former players to sign here when free agents. This could be his master plan.
His first run in the NBA wasn't very good.
Does anyone know the statistics of college coaches going pro?
I am curious because I only hear of the failures.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...ge-to-the-nba/
Didn't Calipari and Pitino coach in NBA before and it was a train wreck. Oh glad everyone forgot Tim Floyd
Pitino ruined the Celtics trying to play Kentucky style basketball in the NBA.
I love him as a college coach, but not sure about the NBA. In college, a lot of his success has been because, through dominant recruiting, he has obtained such a higher level of talent than his opponents. He wins on talent rather than Xs and Os. There is not as much a disparity in talent in the NBA as there is in the NCAA. I would still be willing to give him a shot, but have concerns.
1. Talent
2. X and O's
There are about 500 other things you need to be a great coach. It is not as simple as either of these things IMO.
Over and over, I have seen two very basic and simplistic arguments against Cal
A) He has so much talent, of course he is going to win
B) He failed in the NBA 15 years ago
I personally believe both of these arguments are incredibly weak. I don't think Cal is the greatest option, but I really want to hear more detailed, nuanced arguments against him moving forward. I am kind of done hearing the two above, especially when they aren't really expanded on with any fact that leads me to believe he will be a bad NBA coach.
All Calipari Pelicans lineup:
Starters:
Wall
Evans
MKG
Davis
Cousins
Bench:
Bledsoe
Knight
T. Jones
Randle
Kanter
Just for kicks.
If anything his ability to handle so much star talent is a plus not a minus.
For all the Phil Jackson hype his triangle has done nothing without Jordan/Pippen and Shaq/Kobe. Jackson ability to get those guys (especially Shaq/Kobe) to work together was his biggest strength IMO. The current landscape of the NBA talent trumps X's and O's. The question is would coach Cal name alone move the needle for FA's. If so that impact alone far out weights any actual coaching flaws.
Reading this over, I realize this could be read as snobbish.
Not intended.
I just want a more nuanced convo, as opposed to the same simple points regurgitated over and over again.
Not to mention, he has zero continuity from year to year and still makes it work. That is impressive to me.
Make it happen Dell
If Calipari is here, Dell won't be.
He will become the HC and President and find his own GM
No I meant the players. I was being sarcastic. I believe Monty should stay next season and prove everyone wrong.
Here lies the problem, He had players much more talented than other teams.
I actually think Monty is doing a much better job late in the season. Kill the mustache and be smarter about time outs and I have been ok with things for what he has to work with.
Thats right,
Who can forget the old adage>>>
"If you fall off the horse, do not get back on."
Or the ever popular......
"If at first you don't succeed, quit quit some more."
kill the stache and the bad suits
How much do you really think we will spend on a head coach though? The buyout alone from Kentucky is 3 million in the first year, 2 million in the second (depending if he decides to leave before June). Not to mention he's getting 8 million per year on his contract while Monty's only getting 2.75.
I think it's far more likely if he's going to come to the NBA with a pay cut he'll follow Kerr's lead and look at an organization which already has made the playoffs and only requires a bit of slight change of direction to have success right away. It's fun to dream, but with the injury luck we've had, what coach would really make that much of a difference?
I'd do it for the recruiting power he brings.
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