The PELICANS bench.

[David Fisher]

Not all is lost but being a realist. The bench sucks on D and in the West we have to face offensive juggernauts like GSW CKIPPERS OKC TRAILBLAZERS. Defense wins these games. You can't win in a shootout against the Clippers or Portland or GSW. I'm just being honest.

One really positive thing Dell did was add Asik. Our rebounding was very poor compared to other teams.


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I think you should look at this box score then.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...404140NOP.html

[Caffeinedisastr]

OP venting like a maniac

It's like.......

[Caffeinedisastr]

Are you considering that our bench will probably be playing against the other team's bench and not their starters??? If so, you'll see that our bench stacks up against most benches around the league...

True DAT!

[isitsunday]

Are you considering that our bench will probably be playing against the other team's bench and not their starters??? If so, you'll see that our bench stacks up against most benches around the league...

So much this the OP is acting like bench players will be playing against lebron and shiz through the whole game and that every bench in the league should be starters like whaaaaaat

[Bigeauz]

Yall let a troll thread get to 3 pages. Stop talking to this guy.

[Sovereign]

You can't win in a shootout against the Clippers or Portland or GSW.

Why not?

[Kibner]

Why not?

GSW especially is not a top tier offensive team. At least they weren't last year. Defense carried them. Their offense was nearly identical to ours in efficiency last season.

[pawel]

If anybody is interested - Ajinca will not play in the Basketball WC. But not because of the injury but because of the ucoming birth of his child.

http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldc...ains-ambitious

[RaisingTheBar]

If anybody is interested - Ajinca will not play in the Basketball WC. But not because of the injury but because of the ucoming birth of his child.

http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldc...ains-ambitious

I love seeing these quotes about our backup center

So with star center Alexis Ajinca announcing shortly before...

This is a blow

And who will replace him?

[Noggy]

Forgot about Salmons. I like him based on his experience which this team needs BUT he is not going to do too much on the court.

I like your optimism about Rivers and that would be the main thing that would change my view of the bench. He really needs to MAN UP!




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People would've said the same about Morrow last year.

[ItIsRynosTime]

ryno might be the best bench player in the NBA

Well, who am I to disagree with that one Chief.

Ya I think just having ryno gives us a decent bench

Ya I think just having me gives us a decent thread.

You make a topic about our bench and don't mention Ryan Anderson SMH

When something doesn't fit your argument, you naturally exclude it.

I know you're hopeful but you expect defense from this unit? Ryno, Jimmer both are very weak on defense. Ajinca is not a good defender. Rivers is good on defense and Miller is not the defensive specialist people act like he is.

I really hope Patric Young can show he's able to get on the court because he can help this team with defense. He probably will get very few minutes if any at all.

Rivers is a bad NBA defender. Gordon is a bad NBA defender. Evans is a bad NBA defender. Anderson is a below average NBA defender. Freddette could be the worst NBA defender. Ajinca is an above average NBA defender. Miller is a top 100 NBA defender.

Why do people keep putting these units out there with 5 bench players? When this team is healthy, you will rarely, if ever, see that.

One of the main guards will come out early and Rivers or Salmons will come in to play with the starting lineup. Then Asik will come out and Ryno will go in. Then, a few mins later, Asik will come in for AD and play next to Ryno.

The units will be staggered, always have at least 1-2 starters on the floor. When you have a roster this top heavy, this is how rotations work. It is how the rotations went last year when we were healthy.

No teaching ITT.

It'd be cool if one of Jimmer, Russ or Miller could step up and break out as a solid roleplayer. If Miller turns into a 3&D Guy, Russ can come in as a pesky defender and spark plug or Jimmer can become a sniper then we are sitting pretty with a bench mob, but it's not a make or break for the season. If not, I still like our bench with Rivers/Salmons/Anderson/Ajinca. All those guys are solid at their role and Anderson is phenomenal.

Russ Smith can get the job done.

No.
Benches are five man lineups and the rules of basketball are that the entire bench must come in at once, replacing the starters.

True.

Everything is horrible and all hope is lost. Nobody on our team is perfect and when they come out of the game we are doomed because the guys taking their place are even worse. Our bench players are worse than some of the other teams' starters. Our coach is not one of the 5 living that have won a championship. We should just give up now. And don't try to convince me that anything our team has ever done or will do in the future will help. In a minute I'll respond to myself and agree that I'm just being realistic.

Sincerely,

Eeyore

Been watching a lot of Winnie the Pooh lately?

What in the bejesus is going on in this thread?

OP taken over by the dark side of the force.

this thread is what happens when posting on a forum becomes the same as texting your friends

This thread is the best thing since sliced bread.

[NOLa.]

[ItIsRynosTime]

Thx for stopping by.

[fullcourtpress]

Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
Why do people keep putting these units out there with 5 bench players? When this team is healthy, you will rarely, if ever, see that.

I hear ya lol, I sat here for nearly ten minutes trying to figure out the 'bench- squad'; despite having coached h.s. basketball for the last fifteen years and never having done that with any of those teams.

Subbing five in at a time is ludicrous. It takes a while to get acclimated ya know, at least one player should remain in whereas to have a feel for the game.

let's try it like this:

sub 1- ryno for SF (ryno takes to the 4, AD slides to the 5)

is another substitution made here? if so which one? if not, what's the next one?

[pelicanchamp]

I think you should look at this box score then.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...404140NOP.html

Great game. I remember that. Tyreke exploded and scored 41 points. That's not the average, not the norm. Look at the box scores for ALL OKC vs NOP games then let's talk.

The point is if this is our final roster I think we will continue to have problems against superior offenses. We need a 3 and D SF and a pesky defender on the second unit, backup, whatever you people want to call it. It seems like a lot of you don't understand what it takes to win in this league. We have to improve in every area. 3 pointers, Assists, and "team" defense ha which we actually don't have. This team is not a threat to do much at all. IF they stay healthy maybe they'll get in the playoffs. But until Dell gets another significant piece I'm going to doubt we will see the playoffs. If you want to breakdown my argument go ahead. I'm all ears. Do all your homework and tell me how Freddette, Salmons, and young, smith are going to add to anything. I love Smith but we'll see... Do your numbers you can't make a strong argument that this team will be much better except for healthy players, AD progress, Asik. A ton of wishful thinking in these posts.


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[Caffeinedisastr]

Great game. I remember that. Tyreke exploded and scored 41 points. That's not the average, not the norm. Look at the box scores for ALL OKC vs NOP games then let's talk.

The point is if this is our final roster I think we will continue to have problems against superior offenses. We need a 3 and D SF and a pesky defender on the second unit, backup, whatever you people want to call it. It seems like a lot of you don't understand what it takes to win in this league. We have to improve in every area. 3 pointers, Assists, and "team" defense ha which we actually don't have. This team is not a threat to do much at all. IF they stay healthy maybe they'll get in the playoffs. But until Dell gets another significant piece I'm going to doubt we will see the playoffs. If you want to breakdown my argument go ahead. I'm all ears. Do all your homework and tell me how Freddette, Salmons, and young, smith are going to add to anything. I love Smith but we'll see... Do your numbers you can't make a strong argument that this team will be much better except for healthy players, AD progress, Asik. A ton of wishful thinking in these posts.


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Pesky defenders on the 2nd unit eh?

How about Russ/Austin/Tyreke covering the permiter. All are very capable on-ball defenders. (also good for spacing Tyreke against other teams 2nd string on offense)

And we have our 3&D (Miller). He just won't 3 until someone screams at him.

[pelicanchamp]

It's Ryno's Time. You got a great sense of humor lol


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[pelicanchamp]

Pesky defenders on the 2nd unit eh?

How about Russ/Austin/Tyreke covering the permiter. All are very capable on-ball defenders. (also good for spacing Tyreke against other teams 2nd string on offense)

And we have our 3&D (Miller). He just won't 3 until someone screams at him.

Good point, IF Tyreke actually plays D off the ball D along with Russ actually getting time on the floor. I agree with on the ball D from these guys are hopefully going to help.


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[pelicanchamp]

Pesky defenders on the 2nd unit eh?

How about Russ/Austin/Tyreke covering the permiter. All are very capable on-ball defenders. (also good for spacing Tyreke against other teams 2nd string on offense)

And we have our 3&D (Miller). He just won't 3 until someone screams at him.

Keep in mind the off the ball D is extremely important against teams like Clippers, GSW, Spurs, OKC etc because of their exceptional motion on offense and superior assists.


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[Caffeinedisastr]

Keep in mind the off the ball D is extremely important against teams like Clippers, GSW, Spurs, OKC etc because of their exceptional motion on offense and superior assists.


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Indeed, teams that set screens for shooters that play the 3 will give Tyreke issues chasing them off-ball.

However, there's this little tid-bit he's given us:

http://instagram.com/p/q0sPxsPUTL/

If he can improve his terrible jumpshot, he can improve his defense. There's lots of hope.

[ItIsRynosTime]

It's Ryno's Time. You got a great sense of humor lol