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I just don't get post like this, John maybe a good fit for what we want out a SF this season give the guy a chance.Originally Posted by Biasvasospasm
A lot of us was saying the same thing to Bulls fans when they signed Marco and look how that turned out. Man I never knew we had so many scouts on this board.
I don't know, man. If we're fighting for the last couple playoff spots, and this guy is as bad as he's been recently or worse, then yeah. I think he could help us lose a couple close games that could swing things one way or another compared to another bad small forward. PER is a flawed statistic, but he posted a freaking 7.8 last year. He made 36% of his overall shots, and took more shots from 2 than 3; his overall 3P% is good, not special, and from anywhere but the corner he's not good. His net rating for the last 3 seasons have been -8, -9, and -13. He's not a good player. My impression, admittedly limited from stats, a few games here and there, and how much other fan bases hate the guy, is that he's an actively harmful player who could lose you games if you play him enough.
Pretty sure AD's net rating has been negative the last 2 years too. He must be terrible too....
When the Pels are 9th in the West at the trade deadline and Salmons gets packaged with other assets for Wilson Chandler or Jeff Green and the only reason the trade works is the amount the Salmons salary is above the league minimum and the reason we make the playoffs is the trade, I would hope some of you guys would write a personal heartfelt letter to Dell Demps apologizing.
have i missed something, Did we get rid of Cass?????
+9 and +15 respectively, and using those two players in the same sentence is so absurd I literally don't know what to tell you.
Reported that we waived him.
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And we signed John Salmons instead..? i hate them both, but i would probably prefer Casspi than salmons.
There has to be another move.
And hey, I'm generally a Dell fan. I think the Asik move, especially holding onto Ryan Anderson, is really terrific and will make this team better and is better than anything else we could have realistically added in FA. And I hope Salmons has an expected late-career renaissance. My standards aren't high, I want a guy who can shoot .400 from the floor and play non-embarrassing defense. I think I'm justified to not be excited that we spent our one legitimate chance to improve a position that will require minutes on this guy.
I thought you were talking about +/-.
What "Legitimate" chance did we have to solve the SF position with 2.7 million dollars? Some of you people are really ridiculous.
No, net (or simple) rating. Offensive rating - defensive rating. I hate raw plus minus. Just playing on a bad team will give you a generally bad plus minus, especially if you play heavy minutes for that team, which doesn't mean much. I find net rating is more sensitive to good players on bad teams.
We waived casspi? I'd also take him over salmon any day. He had some bright moments in houston
There was not a long-term solution to be had, I agree with that, You'll note I didn't use the word 'solve', you did. Unless we got a young reclamation project and got obscenely lucky. But throw out any name that had been thrown around in the last couple days (CDR, Richard Jefferson who signed into the minimum, Wesley Johnson, Jordan Hamilton, man, Darius Miller, some Dleague guy or someone from Europe, literally anyone who doesn't combine .36 from the field with terrible defense and poor athleticism which is just getting worse). I'm not being ridiculous. I expected nothing good from what we signed for this position. We got worse than that, IMO.
Salmons is this year's Steamer
how reliable is Your guy?
if this is true - AA turned 2 mln for 1,27m and 1,3 m (2 nd year being PO) from Nets
there is not so big difference annualy IMO - after a year he will opt out and go for much money
probably he wanted to stay in the place which he knows, where is the atmosphere or something. maybe he likes Mother Russia, maybe he -might - receive something from Mikhail. Maybe
but maybe he was offered only a place from bench (like probably Salmons) which he doesn't like - cause he wanted more
to many maybe's/if's
but 4 sure everybody would have been happy if AA will be the man - not JSalmons
but sometimes You have to move to the plan B,C etc (like last year when Webster was the main target)
I am ok with Salmons, but think that Dell has not finished
my guess is that Rush will show up also for us tomorrow(he will be available for minimum, like D. Miller - while picking his option before 30th June will cost us little more probably) ; but IMO we have to many centers and there is a need for big in the league. we have also Rivers, Babbitt. So there is room for something...
In Dell we trust
Bingo. This is a horrendous signing in an otherwise good offseason. This seasons Greg Steimsma. Only worse. Because unlike Steimsma who was never expected to get big minutes Salmons is likely going to get heavy minutes unless we roll Tyreke into the 3 which Monty is opposed to and believes he can't excel there. To which I agree.
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You guys are overreacting big time.
I'm not a big fan of Salmons either but he is a good shooter. I say as long as he can average 7-10 ppg, can shot the 3 around 40%, play decent team defense, and most important don't do to much... I'm good. But I woulda have rather Wesley Johnson or Jordan Hamilton personally.
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Only if there's any way he winds up starting.
As of right now I am functioning under the assumption he IS starting.
I don't see Monty starting Reke so that leaves... Steamer 2.0 . (again this is right NOW.. which is all that exist right?)
No doubt.
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Its a horrible move. We were already just treading water to get into the playoffs with a tough Western conference. And we signed a guy that literally is a horrible fit for our starting lineup. Poor athleticism, mediocre shooting, bad defense and a ever regressing overall game.
What we needed was someone that if nothing else could spread the floor and allow Tyreke to play to his strengths. What we got was none of that. And we overpaid at that. I am sad to say that I am literally hoping that Luke Babbitt will start for us because if Salmons does I have low hopes for our season. Knowing our coach Salmons will be getting 20 minutes a game and unearned trust from day one. Its a sour note toward the end of our FA in an otherwise good offseason.
Last edited by N.O.Bronco; 07-14-2014 at 08:51 PM.
So is Dell finished or does anybody think he has a trade left in him?
Hope you guys are right. I believe the minutes that we get from this guy, which will be significant (~20, maybe more) will place us at a disadvantage when he's on the court both offensively and defensively. I think it's too soon to say if anyone is overreacting. If he's as bad as Stiemsma, I'm probably underreacting.
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