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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by kclaboy504 View Post
    How's this kids defense tho? Give me an honest thorough evaluation. Not a hyped up guru (agent) type of evaluation lol
    good scorer, defender and rebounder. He is exactly what we need for the SF position, his only knocks are his shot selection and motor. Has a defensive rating of 104 i believe

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Has no role with us. Mediocre defender, not great. Can't rebound at high enough level and too passive with his offense.
    Yea I had high hopes for him too. It just doesn't seem to be clicking at all.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    good scorer, defender and rebounder. He is exactly what we need for the SF position, his only knocks are his shot selection and motor. Has a defensive rating of 104 i believe
    I've watched him play at Texas. I know he can score but I wanna know how good of a defender he is. Can he defend the better 3s in this league is what I'm worried about.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Has no role with us. Mediocre defender, not great. Can't rebound at high enough level and too passive with his offense.
    Sadly that's the case. Some people are good guys and you want to give them a break, and I think we have for 2 years, but he's just below average everywhere except shooting and too passive to make that an advantage for him.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by kclaboy504 View Post
    I've watched him play at Texas. I know he can score but I wanna know how good of a defender he is. Can he defend the better 3s in this league is what I'm worried about.
    when u say the better 3's do u mean melo, durant, paul george, etc? No, but who can? Can he defend the average starting 3 in the nba? yes

  6. #106
    Ramona Shelburne: With interest in Hill strong, Lakers expect something more than cap relief in return for him. Twitter @ramonashelburne - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.RPsZf9YH.dpuf

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Has no role with us. Mediocre defender, not great. Can't rebound at high enough level and too passive with his offense.
    agree with this, he might be a good shooter and passer but his rebounding, defense just arent good enough

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    when u say the better 3's do u mean melo, durant, paul george, etc? No, but who can? Can he defend the average starting 3 in the nba? yes
    There are way more above avg 3s in this league than those super stars man.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Inner_GI View Post
    Ramona Shelburne: With interest in Hill strong, Lakers expect something more than cap relief in return for him. Twitter @ramonashelburne - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.RPsZf9YH.dpuf
    lol of course, i hate the lakers, they can have steamer, roberts or darius

  10. #110
    Just give them Withey. lol

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by kclaboy504 View Post
    There are way more above avg 3s in this league than those super stars man.
    i know that but u said the better 3's in the league, not above average, i assumed u were referring to the top 8 in the league? I mean there is only like 30 teams in the league, who is ur idea of the better 3's

  12. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inner_GI View Post
    Ramona Shelburne: With interest in Hill strong, Lakers expect something more than cap relief in return for him. Twitter @ramonashelburne - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.RPsZf9YH.dpuf
    I can just imagine some prissy d-word talkin' 'bout "Seller's market!"

    Ugh, I want the Lakers to trip and break their face open! The brand, not some player or Los Angeles itself like in 2012.

  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    i know that but u said the better 3's in the league, not above average, i assumed u were referring to the top 8 in the league? I mean there is only like 30 teams in the league, who is ur idea of the better 3's
    Right but u just named those 3 stars. Lol. Also have iggy, parsons, batum, gay, derozan, etc.

  14. #114
    Whoa it's crazy to think that even after giving Kobe 30M/yr the Lakers might actually get under the cap by moving Hill and Kaman.

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by kclaboy504 View Post
    Right but u just named those 3 stars. Lol. Also have iggy, parsons, batum, gay, derozan, etc.
    i honestly dont know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythrol View Post
    Plus he has really cool hair. We gotta get this guy!
    That's a very good point. Since we got rid of Lopez our number of players with cool hair is exactly 0. No Varejao, no Noah, no Cole, we have nothing right now.

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    Am I the only one who thinks Withey could develop into a nice bench player? I would prefer outright releasing Steimsma. He only has a little over a million left on his contract. I would think we could easily unload Morrow to create a roster spot. I thought I read Ajincia's contract was only guaranteed for the first year (although I do not think we would release him this soon after bringing him over from Europe). Miller could be a release candidate as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythrol View Post
    Whoa it's crazy to think that even after giving Kobe 30M/yr the Lakers might actually get under the cap by moving Hill and Kaman.
    Not if any other GMs are watching Kaman "play basketball" tonight. He's worthless.
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  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks Withey could develop into a nice bench player? I would prefer outright releasing Steimsma. He only has a little over a million left on his contract. I would think we could easily unload Morrow to create a roster spot. I thought I read Ajincia's contract was only guaranteed for the first year (although I do not think we would release him this soon after bringing him over from Europe). Miller could be a release candidate as well.
    He could if he gets minutes. But where will he get them on this team? I mean, even if you don't bring back Hill and just resign Smith, he is fighting for a couple minutes a night with Ajinca in a best case scenario. Would have to put on 15 pounds this summer and drastically improve offensive game to lock down a rotation spot next year, and again, that is if we don't add anyone else
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  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Soundwave View Post
    Not if any other GMs are watching Kaman "play basketball" tonight. He's worthless.
    Lol u watching that too huh'? They are calling him out big time on national tv too

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    He could if he gets minutes. But where will he get them on this team? I mean, even if you don't bring back Hill and just resign Smith, he is fighting for a couple minutes a night with Ajinca in a best case scenario. Would have to put on 15 pounds this summer and drastically improve offensive game to lock down a rotation spot next year, and again, that is if we don't add anyone else
    You clearly do not resign Steimsma (thank goodness). If you get Hill, hopefully you resign him. I am not sure Smith is a guarantee to resign, but if you do, he is a 4/5. Ajincia would be end of bench with Withey. He is young enough to develop slowly. If Withey develops quickly, you release Ajincia (do not think his second year is fully guaranteed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclaboy504 View Post
    Lol u watching that too huh'? They are calling him out big time on national tv too
    Kaman looks like a 60 year old man out there.

  23. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    You clearly do not resign Steimsma (thank goodness). If you get Hill, hopefully you resign him. I am not sure Smith is a guarantee to resign, but if you do, he is a 4/5. Ajincia would be end of bench with Withey. He is young enough to develop slowly. If Withey develops quickly, you release Ajincia (do not think his second year is fully guaranteed).
    But do you not trade for hill if they ask for Withey?

    I mean AD, Ryno, Hill, and Smith puts Ajinca getting zero minutes. If it only took Withey to get Hill, I'd say yes.

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    I think Withey could be something special eventually. Even better than RoLo this year. He needs development, but I think he could be a very above average starter in two to three years. Yes, this post won't go over well.

  25. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Inner_GI View Post
    But do you not trade for hill if they ask for Withey?

    I mean AD, Ryno, Hill, and Smith puts Ajinca getting zero minutes. If it only took Withey to get Hill, I'd say yes.
    Me too

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