"I want ONLY 9 eyebrows in the starting lineup for the Hornets next year." I typed this before the draft lottery
His stats are all thrown off I think by the amount of minutes he plays, he is a very raw player who is forced into the starting lineup. I think once Gordon returns and he is coming off the bench we will see more improvement.
I had stats explained to me as being there to challenge or confirm what our instinct and perception tell us.
For example, we know Rodman was an excellent rebounder. Stats can easily confirm this.
However, it was often said that he cheesed for rebounds in ways that would actively hurt his team. Some guy did a lot of research and found that Rodman went for fewer rebounds in close games than in blowouts (in either direction).
This seems to refute the thought that Rodman went for rebounds to the detriment of his team in games that were in question.
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I am fairly objective and I'll tell you right now, with decent amount of money on the line having bet the Hornets to surpass 27 wins this season, I would rather the ball be in Rivers hands every possession instead of Vasquez.
Here is the article I am talking about: http://skepticalsports.com/?page_id=1222
It is pretty long and has lots of graphs and numbers, but he does a good job of explaining it in plain english. The guy was trying to present a case on why Rodman should be in the HOF (before he was actually inducted).
The advanced metrics and eyeball test tells me that Rivers has been one of the worst players in the league so far. I'm not surprised and I expected it since he had mediocre metrics last season at Duke. But hopefully he improves in the offseason.
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1) Considering how young he is, Rivers should be one of the worst players in the league. He needs to add strength to absorb contact at the rim, and that will do him wonders. He also needs to refine his shooting mechanics, which he has already begun to do.
2) We shouldn't be measuring Rivers on production, yet somehow, everyone always seems to do so. I don't get it. He was labeled a project by Demps from day 1. He told us to not expect much from him for a year or 2, yet people still do. I just don't get it.
3) Rivers has already begun adding things to his game. The floater, his passing is better, his defense is way better, he has improved his shooting mechanics some, etc... The list goes on and on. Let the kid grow this season and stop giving him so much **** for being one of the youngest guys in the league. He is right on par with most other rookies, but his upside is significantly higher.
Man is this a real question??? Scratch that.......... Is this a real thread? Did somebody really write a column about how this dude is the worst player in the league?.......at 20? It doesn't matter if he was on the Hornets or if he was on the Raptors how can we pass judgement on not only a rookie who is "struggling" but a rookie who is "struggling" at a young age in a season that isn't even half over yet. The craziest part is that it was written by ESPN and this whole discussion based on some sort of magical metric scale, by some random ESPN columnist...... Seriously? Someone said it best earlier I rather use my eye balls to judge Austin, and personally not magical scales.
He'll have to do MAJOR work on that floater of his and find confidence in his shooting stroke (in regards to free throws mainly, rest will come after he fixes that, not encouraging him to be a chucker lol) before he can get this monkey off his back. Finishing his sometimes crazy drives would be nice too. I still have faith in him though. I posted not long ago how Beal / Waiters / Ross are struggling from the field too, especially weird for Beal considering hes an 84% FT shooter.
The NBA game really is just different. The rules are different, the standards are higher, the defense is bigger, stronger, rotate better. Its all about working ur *** off and also having a coaching staff that can help you / keep faith in you.
That's my main concern, is the staff giving up on Rivers like they did with JR Smith, Brandon Bass, Marcus Thornton, Heck even Collison. What did we get back for those guys compared to what they produce today?
His passing is getting better, his defense is better (which isn't really saying something since it was turrible to begin with but 27 games in and that's progress), his 3PT shooting is still good, his floater is also slowly becoming a weapon. I just wish Monty could loosen the reins on Rivers a bit -- let the kid just flat out play there even if it's terrible. I am of the opinion that players trained to be scorers should be allowed to play through their mistakes (especially if they have a high basketball IQ) so that they know what's right and what's wrong.
Of course, all this things I see with my 'eyes' will be pretty useless if I can't back it up with numbers. So right now? Production wise, he is one of the worst (and actually on pace to become one of the worst rookies ever) but his production is slowly creeping up, and his decision making is getting better (just by watching).
I still feel skeptical about his chances of becoming a legitimate and efficient scorer some day because he still has a LONG ways to go but I don't see him being out of the league after his rookie contract (something people are suggesting 27~28 games into his young career).
So yeah, I hated the pick but he's a Pelican now and he's our guy.
Ryan Anderson is the only shooter on this team,
His defensive rotations are improving greatly.
His shot selection is improving.
Passing is improving.
Going to his left (still finishing with his right though)
I dunno I've been watching him since summer league and I am noticing the work he is putting in.
I honestly feel if/when this kid puts it all together he could be a poor man's westbrook / harden. Call me crazy.
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