In his last ten games, Austin has shot 42.86% from the filed, and an identical 42.86% from 3. I hope I don't have to explain how strong that is, especially with the handles that he has for a two guard.
He was shooting in the 20's from the field, and is now over 35% for the season.
Austin has faired pretty favorably to all other two guards in the draft.
35.1% FG, 36.7% 3PT, 2.7 A, 1.5 TO, 28.2 MPG
36.1% FG, 29% 3PT, 2.3 A, 1.7 TO, 30.1 MPG
37.1%, 31.4% 3PT, 3.5 A, 2.0 TO, 31.7 MPG
Two guys drafted much higher. Also two guys that are not playing substantially better but playing more minutes for those who like to say Austin wouldn't get these minutes on other teams.
Austin's advanced stats suffer from the lack of shots more than anything else. Beal has taken 66 more shots in 3 less games. 100 3 pointers to Austin's 49. Dion Waiters? 102 more shots! in 5 less games!! Again, 105 3 pointers to Austin's 49.
If you follow things like PER, or WARP, you have to know how they are figured. When you take only a small sample size, when a player takes a small amount of shots in a lot of minutes, when a player shoots a pedestrian percentage, those advanced stats are going to look messy. As Michael has stated, if Austin had free wheel with the backups, his usage rates would be much higher which would raise his PER alone.
Just an example of how ridiculous this is, if Austin goes 5 for 5 tonight from three, he will be shooting 42.6% from 3 for the year instead of 36.7%. One game, and all of a sudden people will think he's one of the best three point shooters in the league.
It's comical to see people judge a 20 year old rookie, 26 games in, one who has played very well for an extended stretch, and say that kid can't play in the league.
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Last edited by sfernald; 12-26-2012 at 03:52 PM.
He'll be fine. I'm honestly not worried. He is way different than Aminu or Wright - he just is. He's a smart player! His presence on the court is useful and he'll learn when to best inject himself into the action for the optimal results. Aminu and Wright (and Hilton for that matter) looked like chickens with their heads cut off out there on the court - they were awkward as hell, they were maddeningly neutral in regards to the passion for the game, their interactions with teammates and opponents on the court, etc. Austin just "gets it". You can tell by watching him that he's light years ahead of those clowns.
I'd bet a large amount of money that Austin Rivers will have a solid and successful NBA career.
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It sounds like you at least agree that he's got the size and the ability to drive into the lane, get the shot up from advantageous positions, and earn trips to the FT line, correct?
I hated the pick and that opinion has been completely justified by River's play so far this year. Is this thread a little premature? Probably. But no one in their right mind can honestly say that Austin Rivers has had a positive effect on this team. We are an awful team and he, so far, is an awful player. He has potential, but as I've watched almost every game he's played in the past two years, nothing he has done convinces me that he will come anywhere close to fulfilling that potential. The stats obviously back this up if it can even be argued that he is having the worst season ever, although I'm assuming that it is a bit of a stretch (not an insider so I can't read the article.)
He came into the League and everyone was saying that he was flowing with confidence (most of this stems from the one memorable play he made in college). I have seen no confidence from him this year. He disappears from games on a consistent basis and does not seem to be decisive with the ball in his hands. He looks far below average on defense. He does not have a good shot and his free throw numbers are appalling. He can get to the basket but can't finish, which anyone who plays basketball knows is less about technical skill and more about a true feel for the game. He does not have elite athleticism, just an elite first step.
I really hope he pans out and proves me wrong but I have very little faith in that happening. Nothing I have seen, except in rare flashes, shows me that he will be anything but a bench warmer for most of his career.
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Last edited by WisconsinHornet; 12-26-2012 at 04:11 PM.
I have made it clear well before, during and after the draft the players I liked. I had to explain how Anthony Davis was better than Marcus Camby already while in college(and that Camby has been a great NBA player, but that's another subject). Had to show how he actually was similar to a young Tim Duncan more than Camby. I had to explain how Damian Lillard was a special player. I had to explain all the reasons Drummond struggled in college, including Calhoun not being there, him getting hurt, him breaking his nose and wearing a mask, etc etc. I had to explain why I really didn't believe in Thomas Robinson, who I thought his best ceiling as a player was Paul Milsaps, though I didn't think he was that good either. How I never understood people calling Beal Ray Allen when he didn't shoot the 3 well in college. Still like him as a solid player, but he's just not a lights out shooter.
And I have tried to explain what the Hornets probably see in Austin Rivers. At the end of the day, Austin was drafted to play with Eric Gordon. Something we haven't seen yet. EJ is going to initiate the offense for this team, he is going to be the point guard for most all purposes. But he is undersized at the 2 guard, and doesn't have the impeccable handles to play PG full time. Austin Rivers is a perfect compliment. He is 6'4, but quick enough to guard PG's. He has the handles to bring the ball up, and also to initiate the offense when things bog down. But he also can play off the ball, whether that's behind the 3 point line, or to run the pick and roll from the other side.
A catch and shoot guy would not work with Gordon, and a neither would a pass only guy. Austin is a perfect fit. He is a ying to Gordon's yang. Don't write off the Lakers before you see Nash play, and don't write off Rivers before you see him play with Gordon for a couple of years. The kid has an NBA game, and it will be fun to watch him grow.
Of course people are going to be looking for signs he might improve. That's what we do as fans. What's your end-game?
Last edited by UptownFuz504; 12-26-2012 at 04:20 PM.
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