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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    And that team beat Miami.
    That's true, but the second part of my sentence is also true. Eye test tells me we are definitely one of the worst teams if not the worst, and it's frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nola Hornet View Post
    Never said that but he has had quite a big nice games here. You're the one who sounded like this was his only good game.
    Not consistently enough to warrant him untouchable.

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  3. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    Can't understand why Monty left Davis on West. That was a huge mismatch that Indiana exploited pretty much the whole 2nd half.
    Where else would you put him? Against Hibbert? George? Davis is going to have to take his lumps and this is one of those nights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOH2313 View Post
    Not consistently enough to warrant him untouchable.
    Again, you keep putting words into people's mouths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    Can't understand why Monty left Davis on West. That was a huge mismatch that Indiana exploited pretty much the whole 2nd half.
    Probably because he was kind of frustrating West early on but West/Vogel adjusted and Monty didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    Can't understand why Monty left Davis on West. That was a huge mismatch that Indiana exploited pretty much the whole 2nd half.
    Get his licks in. Show him what people can do to him so he can learn. It shouldn't be a mismatch in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyman View Post
    D. West didn't come out of Xavier looking gravy from 17 either. Took him a few years.
    Two seasons to be precise. Went from averaging under 9 a game to suddenly dropping 18 per. Not coincidentally, coinciding with the moment the Hornets drafted Chris Paul.

  8. #258
    Quote Originally Posted by The JNR View Post
    That team beat us at home. Transitive property. Even if the Wizards are technically the worst team, we play like the worst team pretty often.
    The fact that it's this close is bad enough. It's disappointing because so many of you guys really had high hopes for the season. It not that bad for me I was expecting these struggles.

  9. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by The JNR View Post
    For some reason, that isn't as satisfying this year as it was last year. I'm curious why. Maybe I had higher expectations, I'm not sure.
    I feel the same way....mostly because I feel the draft this year outside of like 3 players is garbage. And there's no guarantee we'll have the same luck we had last yr with a #1 pick. Remember this is a lottery....

    Its just so hard watching this team sometimes...I'm mean you love em cuz its your team and they're trying and all but ****....LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    The fact that it's this close is bad enough. It's disappointing because so many of you guys really had high hopes for the season. It not that bad for me I was expecting these struggles.
    If anything, we expected to be better than last year. I don't think that was an irrational expectation. I didn't really expect a playoff push, although I was hoping for one. But I definitely thought we would be better than this.

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    I think when most people gave their exceptions at the beginning of the season they thought that Gordon would at least begin the season playing and didn't foresee Davis' injury. They wouldn't have been this bad had those two things not happened.

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    I know what this team can be capable of. But I'm down for another high draft pick. I wasn't expecting much this season because I knew we were young. If this season lands us a guy like Shabazz Muhammad, then you guys won't be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nola Hornet View Post
    Again, you keep putting words into people's mouths.
    Your thinking is way too short-sighted.

    Sure, we may lack the big enforcer for a short period of time if we trade Lopez away. But choosing not to capitalize on his high value to bolster our backcourt if the opportunity presents itself is foolish. His production can easily be replaced via FA or the draft. This isn't a knock on him, but its the truth.

    You scoffed at the concept of trading him. I'm saying its not a bad idea, despite his great games lumped between his solid performances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    Two seasons to be precise. Went from averaging under 9 a game to suddenly dropping 18 per. Not coincidentally, coinciding with the moment the Hornets drafted Chris Paul.
    With me, those expectations were mistakenly founded on the assumption that we'd be full strength throughout most of the season. We went through an 11 game stretch without Davis and an have only just now gotten Gordon cleared to practice with the squad.

    But whatever. It's all to an end. But contrary to the brainless, it is NOT so we can suck and get more a high draft picks, it's beyond that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunnyB View Post
    I think when most people gave their exceptions at the beginning of the season they thought that Gordon would at least begin the season playing and didn't foresee Davis' injury. They wouldn't have been this bad had those two things not happened.
    You have all the answers don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    Two seasons to be precise. Went from averaging under 9 a game to suddenly dropping 18 per. Not coincidentally, coinciding with the moment the Hornets drafted Chris Paul.
    so what you're saying eman... is that a consistantly good point guard can make all the difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    The fact that it's this close is bad enough. It's disappointing because so many of you guys really had high hopes for the season. It not that bad for me I was expecting these struggles.
    I dont think anyone expected the top player to miss another 2 months, and the team would have to depend so much on Vasquez with the ball.

    Those two things were worst possible scenarios early in the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinglio21093 View Post
    I know what this team can be capable of. But I'm down for another high draft pick. I wasn't expecting much this season because I knew we were young. If this season lands us a guy like Shabazz Muhammad, then you guys won't be disappointed.
    And if they don't get Shabazz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nola Hornet View Post
    Where else would you put him? Against Hibbert? George? Davis is going to have to take his lumps and this is one of those nights.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kibner View Post
    Get his licks in. Show him what people can do to him so he can learn. It shouldn't be a mismatch in the future.
    If this is the case clearly Monty isn't coaching to win.

    And honestly after what West did him I would rather had him guard Hibbert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOH2313 View Post
    Your thinking way too short-sighted.

    Sure, we may lack the big enforcer if we trade Lopez away. But choosing not to capitalize on his high value to bolster our backcourt if the opportunity presents itself is foolish.

    You scoffed at the concept of trading him. I'm saying its not a bad idea, despite his great games lumped between his solid performances.
    Again, stop assuming you know how I feel about Lopez. I already said time and time again on this board that unless it's a clear upgrade at the position, there is no reason to get rid of him. A lot of people and I'm not saying it's you want to get rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him. The problem lies in that thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rt0307 View Post
    so what you're saying eman... is that a consistantly good point guard can make all the difference
    No, a consistently great player, of any kind, makes all the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nola Hornet View Post
    You have all the answers don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The JNR View Post
    If anything, we expected to be better than last year. I don't think that was an irrational expectation. I didn't really expect a playoff push, although I was hoping for one. But I definitely thought we would be better than this.
    Quote Originally Posted by HunnyB View Post
    I think when most people gave their exceptions at the beginning of the season they thought that Gordon would at least begin the season playing and didn't foresee Davis' injury. They wouldn't have been this bad had those two things not happened.
    Both of you guys nailed it.

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    Great game. Lopez just boosted his trade value. Let's make a move for Bledsoe!

  25. #275
    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    If this is the case clearly Monty isn't coaching to win.

    And honestly after what West did him I would rather had him guard Hibbert.
    I wouldn't say he wasn't coaching to win. He's trying to develop and trying to win at the same time. It's a hard balance.

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