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    Salary cap situation going forward

    Interesting, I came across this (a lot of you are probably already aware of it). New Orleans should be major players in the off-season.

    New Orleans Hornets Team Salary

    Name 2012-13 2013-14 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17
    Rashard Lewis X $13,765,000
    Eric Gordon $13,668,750 $14,283,844 $14,898,958 $15,514,031
    Ryan Anderson $8,700,000 $8,308,500 $8,491,500 $8,500,000
    Anthony Davis $5,144,280 $5,375,760 $5,607,240 $7,070,730 $9,191,949
    Robin Lopez $4,899,293 $5,119,761 $5,340,229
    Matt Carroll - X $3,300,000
    Al-Farouq Aminu $2,947,800
    Jason Smith $2,500,000 $2,500,000
    Xavier Henry $2,323,200
    Austin Rivers $2,238,360 $2,339,040 $2,439,840 $3,110,796 $4,236,904
    Greivis Vasquez $1,191,240 $2,150,188 $3,203,780
    Roger Mason Jr. $854,389
    Lance Thomas $762,195 $884,293 $1,148,163
    Darius Miller $473,604 $788,872 $1,115,243
    Brian Roberts $473,604 $788,872 $1,115,243

    Guaranteed Total: $62,005,916 $33,457,332 $23,390,458 $8,500,000

    Inclusive Total: $63,241,715 $42,539,130 $43,360,196 $34,195,557 $13,428,853

    Sorry, Hard to read..
    Look here:
    http://www.hoopsworld.com/new-orlean...ts-team-salary

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    We've got some decisions to make. Roberts and Darius Miller are almost no brainers IMO, same with Lopez. I would personally bring back Thomas, but it by no means set in stone. The market will probably dictate X and Aminu, so we can't say until then. If we pick up the team option, that puts us somewhere around 42 mil, not including Aminu or X.
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    It will be interesting to see if Lopez is picked up but i'm sure he will be since his contract is actually very fair given his size and production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P Raff View Post
    We've got some decisions to make. Roberts and Darius Miller are almost no brainers IMO, same with Lopez. I would personally bring back Thomas, but it by no means set in stone. The market will probably dictate X and Aminu, so we can't say until then. If we pick up the team option, that puts us somewhere around 42 mil, not including Aminu or X.
    Agreed with every point you've made. I personally think they're gonna let Aminu walk IF they make a major play for a SF that has All-Star ability. If they strike gold, bye bye Al-Farouq. They'll definitely have the cap space to do so.....


    Another elephant in the room is obviously Gordon and his future here. If they can swing a trade to a team and get another SG or SF here, then Aminu's gone and Rivers may switch permanently to the PG position. So many exciting possibilities for the next two seasons
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    I think we will let X walk. And it really comes down to how much they want to pay aminu to be a back up. If we can get 2 good players at the PG and SF positions, in either the draft or free agency, think of a bench of vasquez aminu smith ryno? (may be starting next year). We would easily have one of the best bench's in the nba.

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    With out Lopez and keeping Thomas, Roberts, and Miller, we are sitting at $37.461 million between 9 players. Add in Lopez, and we're up to $42.58 million between 10 players. Factor in 2 minimum cap holds to get the roster up to 12 guys (I'm assuming for around $750k a piece), and we have around $14 million in cap space. That is enough to offer a max contract to a guy coming off his rookie deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolaslim213 View Post
    Factor in 2 minimum cap holds to get the roster up to 12 guys (I'm assuming for around $750k a piece)
    It's actually just $490k each

    A roster charge if the team has fewer than 12 players (players under contract, free agents included in team salary, players given offer sheets, and first round draft picks). The roster charge is equal to the rookie minimum salary for each player fewer than 12.
    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q14

    You also can probably decline the options on Lance Thomas and Brian Roberts and then resign them later with the minimum exception. The hold if you cut them will be just the $490k, so that all adds up to another million or so in cap space. If you cut Lopez for $500k you have $38.7M in payroll or roughly $19.5M in cap space, and if you keep Lopez you have $42.8M or roughly $15.5M in cap space. And there is speculation that the cap could increase from $58M to $60M http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-who...space-in-2013/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BP225 View Post
    It's actually just $490k each


    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q14

    You also can probably decline the options on Lance Thomas and Brian Roberts and then resign them later with the minimum exception. The hold if you cut them will be just the $490k, so that all adds up to another million or so in cap space. If you cut Lopez for $500k you have $38.7M in payroll or roughly $19.5M in cap space, and if you keep Lopez you have $42.8M or roughly $15.5M in cap space. And there is speculation that the cap could increase from $58M to $60M http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-who...space-in-2013/
    Ahh, good find. Good overall analysis.

    Boy.... That's a lot of available cap dollars... I think our best bet is to trade Lopez for a young vet on a rookie contract still *cough* Bledsoe *cough*. I'd hate to just cut him outright if we end up needing the money. He is a very solid player on a great contract, and he should net a decent return in a trade.

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    Don't forget the salary of our upcoming lottery pick in 2013. Could be top 5-8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PennStateHornet View Post
    Don't forget the salary of our upcoming lottery pick in 2013. Could be top 5-8.
    Good point. That looks like it will be in the $2 - $3 million range.

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    Our two top cap space eaters haven't played a single game for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOH2313 View Post


    Our two top cap space eaters haven't played a single game for us.
    I was kind of shocked when Lewis makes more than Gordon. lol I guess I have to refer to gordon as our 2nd highest paid player.... WHO NEVER PLAYS

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    There is still another part of this that needs to be discussed- and that is the cap room of other teams. Having 15 million in cap room is much more valuable when nobody else has cap room, but if 12 other teams have that much room (or more), then what happens when there are only 3-4 guys on the market worthy of big $$$?

    I will get into this more as my piece goes on throughout the season, but I covered some of that issue here:

    http://www.hornets247.com/2012/11/17...e-competition/
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOH2313 View Post


    Our two top cap space eaters haven't played a single game for us.
    Oh the irony. That's crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolaslim213 View Post
    Ahh, good find. Good overall analysis.

    Boy.... That's a lot of available cap dollars... I think our best bet is to trade Lopez for a young vet on a rookie contract still *cough* Bledsoe *cough*. I'd hate to just cut him outright if we end up needing the money. He is a very solid player on a great contract, and he should net a decent return in a trade.
    Eric Bledsoe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard View Post
    Eric Bledsoe?
    Yes sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolaslim213 View Post
    Yes sir.
    That kid is a stud. The problem is getting EB puts rivers in a tough position and idk if the hornets are ready to do that to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aas3452 View Post
    That kid is a stud. The problem is getting EB puts rivers in a tough position and idk if the hornets are ready to do that to him.
    I'm all for treating Rivers like a Harden-type sixth man. He and Anderson could really provide a nice spark off the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P Raff View Post
    I'm all for treating Rivers like a Harden-type sixth man. He and Anderson could really provide a nice spark off the bench.
    Agreed. I don't care whether he starts or not, so long as he gets 30 min/game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramsters60 View Post
    I had no idea what will transpire, but I sense we will be pleasantly surprised before we go into next season....
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