He got beat up enough after 2 games in Summer League to need to sit out the last 3 games. He's young and still has a lot of maturing/growing to do both physically and mentally. I think one of the 247 podcasts pointed out that Tony Parker took about 3 years before he became trusted enough to earn starters minutes.
I honestly don't see the point of Vasquez starting. This team is rebuilding and not in contention so I don't see the reasoning of stunting Rivers development by giving Vasquez more minutes over him when Rivers is the better talent?
Emeka Okafor - Al Jefferson - Carmelo Anthony - Manu Ginobili - Damon Stoudamire
Brad Miller - Samaki Walker - Mickael Pietrus - Aaron McKie - Shaun Livingston
Starting him too early will make it alot more difficult to get rid of some of the bad habits he has. Easier to develop him off the bench where there isn't as much pressure. Plus, Vasquez is a solid PG who is young as well. He's ahead of Rivers right now and deserves to start over him. Starting Rivers right away and letting him struggle early and often will affect his confidence.
I get off line for like 7 hours and yall go crazy about my last post. I know kemba was awful last year but i thought he would win it. Norris cole is terrible because he hasn't had a training camp yet. Did you see him in the finals??? He was a gem that we found in the late first round
Last edited by RaisingTheBar; 08-17-2012 at 10:32 PM.
I was at least expecting a source with an absolute statement as the topic.
"I'm not going to allow my putative owner to answer that question, this is an NBA related press conference. Paul Tagliabue and Roger Goodell have collectively sung their praises of Tom and if uh ESPN has a problem with that tell Mr. Skipper to call me at my office."
Extract from the BobcatsPlanet 2013 NBA draft lotto chat:
[05-21, 20:56] Bobcat4Ever: God d*** bullsh** f*** the NBA
[05-21, 20:57] ncstamey: it's not rigged... it just sucks
[05-21, 20:57] Bobcat4Ever: it's rigged mother f****r don't argue with me
The dude couldn't handle summer league at this point, physically so why would he be allowed to start?
"I want ONLY 9 eyebrows in the starting lineup for the Hornets next year." I typed this before the draft lottery
Last edited by RaisingTheBar; 08-17-2012 at 10:32 PM.
Besides, there are players other than Austin Rivers on the roster, and it'll probably be better for their development to play with someone who can set up and run a conventional offense. Rivers is certainly not that right now, and he's a long way from being that. For guys like Aminu and especially Davis to develop, they need someone who can get them the ball in places where they can be effective. Austin River was a poor passer in college, and Vasquez assists at one of the better rates in the NBA. It's not like he's some ancient, on his last legs vet, either. He's gotten better over the past two years and he showed real improvement on his jumpshot in international play. Rivers will get enough minutes to develop regardless due to the lack of a 4th guy who will demand them, but it makes no sense to me to put him in the starting lineup ahead of a better player who understands how to get teammates involved. Maybe Rivers develops that, but most smart objective observers recognize the Rivers-to-PG project has a long way to go, if he ever gets there.
Make sure to bump this thread when he starts opening day gezzzzzzz
Its my opinion that Austin Rivers will not be "The Standard" 6th man for the Hornets.
More time has been spent on this thread talking about whether or not Rivers will start over Vazquez. There's a chance that Rivers starts, and if he does he wouldn be the Hornet's 6th man. Done and done.
If Vazquez starts he will facilitate the offense. He'll line up the plays, penetrate and kick out the ball, run the picks and reset broken plays.
Eric Gordon will execute the offense. He'll catch and shoot, create his own shot and draw the defense.
Gordon is the best player for the Hornets. He will not be the first Hornet going to the bench.
Vazquez will be instrumental to the first quarter offense. If Rivers comes in for Vazquez he will alter the way the offense operates, especially since he is modeling himself after Westbrook an attacking high volume shooting point guard. To alter the offense so drastically so early is risky. I doubt that will be a regular rotation for the Hornets.
They might take out Aminu and put in Rivers creating a 3 guard line up. "Going Small" That could leave the Hornets vulnerable to defensive mismatches, which makes it unlikely to be regular procedure.
The biggest question about the Horneys starting line up isn't at the point its at center. Anthony Davis is a better player than Lopez but he might not be able to match up against some of the big men in the league. The Hornets will probably vary their line up a bit. Which means if their line up isn't working at first they might have to adjust. This change up will mainly occur at the forward and center position. This also makes it highly unlikely that Rivers comes in consistenrly as the 6th man.
On top of everything I've said, if Rivers comes off the bench he will have a lot of competition for that 6th spot. He could be going up against the likes of Anderson, Lopez, Smith, Mason jr, Aminu, and all of those people have one thing Rivers doesn't, experience playing in the NBA.
I've layed out a persuasive argument. For all those unhappy that I titled this thread like it was fact and not opinion I say, "You are right, but I challenge you to defeat my opinion with your own."
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