I would not be suprised if Green returns.....
also, good write up
Hornets Potential Free Agent Targets
By Jeff Martin
This off-season was already one of the most important in the 24-year history of the Hornets franchise. From dealing with life after trading a superstar, to finding an owner willing to keep the team in New Orleans, the organization faced a myriad of questions that had every aspect of the teams future in the air. But after a string of good fortune, it could also prove to be the best off-season in franchise history, specifically after the team landed the No. 1 overall pick in the 2012 NBA draft and the rights to select super-prospect Anthony Davis. They also will be able to double-back in the drafts top-10 and select another potential impact player with tenth pick acquired from the Clippers in the Chris Paul deal.
Another major string of pivotal decisions that loom for Hornets general manager Dell Demps is what moves will be made this year in free agency. With 9 players under contract for next season, and 2 more probably coming in the draft, the Hornets could sign up to 7 free agents during the signing period. Some will invariably be minimum salary camp bodies, but a good number will be called upon to play an important role relative to the composition of this team. The Hornets currently only have $35.5 million tied up in salary, with the salary cap near $58 million. But after accounting for the likely resigning of Gordon and the imminent signing of Anthony Davis and his draft class mate, the Hornets will have significantly less than the $22 million in current cap space to target potential free agents, though enough room to make an impact.
Here are a few players I feel the Hornets could take a look at and some of the pros and cons of these players as it pertains to the Hornets:
Kevin Garnett- Age: 36, Power Forward/Center 6'11 253 lbs (Celtics) *unrestricted
WHY: Garnett brings instant toughness, championship mettle, and leadership to any team he signs with this summer. Monty mentioned how the likes of David West and Willie Green were sorely missed as leaders in that locker room and Garnett certainly would bring that. Aside from the wealth of intangibles, Garnett even at 36, can still be productive on the court, averaging 19.9 points and 10.8 rebounds throughout the Celtics' current playoff run. Where it makes most sense for the Hornets is how he potentially fits with the future face of the franchise, Anthony Davis. Garnett is someone the 19 year old Davis constantly mentions when asked who he aspires to be like (rightfully so), and what better example to learn to be like Garnett, then from the man himself.
Why Not: Garnett made 21.2 million dollars last season, which would have been 1/3 of the Hornets entire payroll. While he wont command that type of money this time around, he still wont be cheap and might be too big of a cap hit for a team to absorb, especially a young team looking to fill a number of holes on the roster. And although Monty's reputation as a head coach is growing and he and the Hornets have some momentum brewing, Garnett will likely want to play for a proven contender at this stage of his career.
Patrick Mills- Age:23 Point Guard 6'0 185 lbs (Spurs) *restricted
WHY: A personal favorite of mine as he was instrumental in winning my fantasy basketball league championship game with his 34 point, 12 assist, 5 rebound performance in the Spurs' regular season finale. Mind you, it was against an defensively inept Warriors squad, but he scored 61 points in his 2 starts, and it showed what he is capable of if given minutes. Mills is limited defensively but according to Spurs coach Greg Popovich, he is a very heady player, having played all over the world, including with the Australian national team. Although he's restricted, he'll never play much with Tony Parker in San Antonio for the foreseeable future, and after making just $300,000 last year, he conceivably could be signed away with a manageable contract. Mills could be a poor man's Steve Nash at his ceiling and at the very least could be a designated 3-point threat for the Hornets, as he shot 43% from downtown last season. That could be a welcomed skill set, especially if Marco Belinelli walks in free agency.
WHY NOT: The Hornets already have one prospect point guard in Greivis Vasquez and probably wouldn't be willing to take on two. Mills also is on the smaller side, listed generously at 6'0 185 lbs, and like noted above he is limited defensively, which could keep him from ever seeing the court on a Monty Williams coached team.
Ersan Ilysova- Age:25, Power Forward/Small Forward 6'10, 235 lbs (Bucks) *unrestricted
WHY: Ilyasova finished second to Ryan Anderson in the most improved player award this past season after averaging 13 points and 8.8 rebounds a game for the Bucks. One of the more efficient players in the league, Ilyasova shot close to 50% from the field while knocking down 45% of the 112 3-pointers he took. Expect his scoring numbers to be even better next season as he continues to refine his offensive game and will not be playing alongside the black hole that is Monta Ellis. It would take a good bit of the Hornets cap space to sign him, but at his age and skill set, that may be a gamble worth taking for Dell Demps and Co.
WHY NOT: Ilyasova may have played his way into a contract the Hornets might not want to take on and the Demps may be scared away by the numbers. Although Ersan can play some small forward, the Hornets also could potentially have a gluttony at the power forward position pending the selection in the draft at 10 and Carl Landry's free agent destination, and may want spend dollars elsewhere.
Anthony Randolph- Age:22 Power Forward, 6'11, 225 lbs. (T'Wolves) *restricted
WHY: He's restricted, but on a Tinberwolves team who has enough youth and will eventually have to pay Ricky Rubio and Nikola Pekovic, and he may be able to be signed away with a decent offer sheet. Randolph has above average athleticism, runs the floor well, and has been productive when given time, averaging 17.4 ppg,10.4 rebounds, 1.3 steals and 2.2 blocks per 36 minutes last season. He's efficient, young, and could be a good front court option off the bench for Monty Williams.
WHY NOT: Randolph's playing time has been consistently inconsistent in his 5 years since entering the league out of LSU and it has to be a concern that no coach (he's played for 4 since he was drafted) trusted him enough to give him consistent minutes depite the fact his teams are usually non-contenders. And again, the number of power forwards that could potentially be on the Hornets roster could discourage the signing of Randolph, who doesn't play much center.
Nicolas Batum- Age:23, Small Forward/Power Forward, 6'8, 200 lbs, (Blazers) *restricted
WHY: Monty said he wanted length and scoring in his post lottery interview and Batum could provide both, along with play the type of defense Monty loves from his players. Batum, who is a 39% 3-point shooter, averaged 14 points, 6.1 rebounds and 2 assists last season and routinely covered the opposing teams best wing players. Batum would fit well with the Hornets, especially if Ariza is moved in the offseason and could slide into the starting small forward spot, giving the Hornets the longest 3-4 combination in the league.
WHY NOT: Not too much to say negatively about Batum fitting in with the Hornets basketball wise other than the fact that he is a restricted free agent and the Trail Blazers would likely match any reasonable deal the Hornets would offer.
Willie Green- Age:31 Shooting Guard, 6'3 201 lbs (Hawks) *unrestricted
WHY: Have you ever had that high school coach who always brings up how some guy 10 years ago did everything right and was the epitome of what he wanted in a player? If you have ever heard Monty speak, you know Monty LOVES this guy and what would he would bring to the team on and off the court. Green shot 47% from the field and 44% from 3 in his reserve role for the Hawks last season.
WHY NOT: If the Hornets resign Marco Belinelli and Eric Gordon, there may not be many minutes for Green, who will be 32 when next season begins.
Spencer Hawes a versatile big man, Goran Dragic, the point guard the Hornets traded for in the original CP deal and Jordan Hill, who was a rumored trade target this season before the deadline, are also free agents whom the Hornets could target and would make some sense in New Orleans.
I would not be suprised if Green returns.....
also, good write up
Formally known as WhoDatMan504
Garnett... really? Not even worth mentioning.
"Hornets means nothing." - Tom Benson
Garnett makes the most sense IF we could add him, but the odds of him wanting to finish his career here are slim to none. KG doesn't want to mentor, he wants to win.
Could see Monty and Dell really making a hard push for Batum. Monty is familiar with him from his time in Portland, and he could be coached up to provide the defense that Ariza brings PLUS some great offense at the position. It would take a nice chunky contract for the Blazers not to match though, and Nola would have to find a deal to move Ariza.
Also really like the Patrick Mills idea, hadn't thought of him before. That would free up that #10 pick to be used for another position. I think we re-sign Landry and Belinelli signs with another team. I also like Vasquez as the starter for his pass-first mentality to dish it out to the scorers, and Jack can come off the bench as the scoring 6th man guard, his specialty.
Okafor / Smith/ Ayon
Davis / Landry
Batum / Aminu
Gordon/ Jack/ Henry
...who to use the 10th pick on in this situation?? hmm... well Smith might be better suited as a back-up PF, so maybe that leaves Landry going elsewhere. And with the 10th pick chose Tyler Zeller, a true Center who's mature and ready to contribute now at a high level.
Okafor / Zeller
Davis / Smith/ Ayon
Batum / Aminu
Gordon / Jack /Henry
Last edited by Rheem654; 06-06-2012 at 10:19 PM.
If we ever get a longballs chance to get Ilyasova, we should take it and run with it. He will be a great addition to our lineup, we can go big with him at the 3 and go small at the 4 (UNIBROW at the 5).
Ilyasova is a very heady kinda-player, his J will spread the floor for EJ and he crashes the board pretty well. He makes smart plays (in all the games ive seen the bucks play), he is easily my favorite player on that team.
I wouldn't mind the Hornets chasing any of the following:
PG: Dragic, Mills, Augustin
SF: Batum, W.Chandler
PF: Ilysova, Landry
C: Hawes, McGee
Last edited by AUSSIE_PELICAN; 06-06-2012 at 10:48 PM.
HR SIM LEAGUE SEATTLE SUPERSONICS 2005-2006Eye ******* depth charts since year 2000
Pg: Chris Paul Sg: Ray Allen Sf: Adrian Griffin Pf: Dirk Nowitzki C: Soumaila Samake
2012 HR RE-DRAFT CHAMPION ORLANDO MAGIC!
Pg: Steve Nash Sg: Manu Ginobili Sf: Nicolas Batum Pf: Paul Millsap C: Tim Duncan
I wouldn't mind getting Hawes if we don't get Zellers or Leonard. Also, it would be pretty great to land either Batum or Dragic.
I want Patty mills in a Hornets uni every day, and twice on game day.
Why we havent made a play for him yet is beyond me. He is going to be another Vashon Leonard.
Tom Smykowski: Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
Fricking Illysova. I'm one of the biggest protesters to Davis at the 5 (think he would make much better 4 with spot up minutes at 5) but I would be ok with it if it brought in this guy. He is the truth.
Extract from the BobcatsPlanet 2013 NBA draft lotto chat:
[05-21, 20:56] Bobcat4Ever: God d*** bullsh** f*** the NBA
[05-21, 20:57] ncstamey: it's not rigged... it just sucks
[05-21, 20:57] Bobcat4Ever: it's rigged mother f****r don't argue with me
Free agency does not start until after the draft, right?
If that is the case, then FA will have no impact on the draft.
I want Batum, but sadly he is a RFA, which sucks big time. I want younger players, so i wouldn't want Willie Green back, he is a good person, but lets be real, he doesn't fit something we need, I want Lowry or Budinger.
New Orleans Pelicans-Seattle Seahawks-Atlanta Braves-Anaheim Ducks
Baptize them in the water out of Scarface pool,
And feed 'em from the table that held Corleone's food,
If you die, tell them that you played my game
I hope your bullet holes become mouths that say my name.
I think you can sign these three guys without having to break the bank. Dragic, Jordan Hill, and Batum. Let Landry Walk and trade Ariza.
Jackie Macmullen (someone on CSN-New England) supposedly talked to Doc Rivers and asked if KG would return. He apparently said he WILL return without listening to offers from other teams. No video proof of the interview but she said it in a pregame Vs. Heat.
I got this info off of RealGM Celtics forum.
I know he's not coming here he loves Boston too much but I would be happy if he came to NOLA even if its just for a yr or 2.
Last edited by Miss_318; 06-07-2012 at 09:03 AM.
Batum is going to be the worst contract in the NBA. You do not want to be a part of that mess.
I wish Batum averaged 6.1 boards a game. Try 4.6. Crashing the boards isn't his biggest strength. I suppose Aminu would present a nice counter-balance there.
If we could move Ariza, I'd be fine with offering Batum a reasonable deal. No more than eight or nine million a year. If Portland matches, so be it. They may not, however, if we offer quickly and they decide they'd rather pursue other options first. Their relationship has soured, after all.
If we don't offer him a deal, I think it will say a lot about Batum given Monty's prior involvement with him. On the surface, though, he seems like a great fit for our team. I think he has the potential to be a very good role player on a championship caliber team.
Batum would be a great complimentary player long-term. 4 years 32-36 million is the most I would do. Big upgrade at SF. His defense needs work, but again, he was usually guarding PGs and the other teams best perimeter player so that does skew his numbers a bit. Hopefully Monty could improve his defense, but you never know.
Emeka Okafor - Al Jefferson - Carmelo Anthony - Manu Ginobili - Damon Stoudamire
Brad Miller - Samaki Walker - Mickael Pietrus - Aaron McKie - Shaun Livingston
On the other hand he does has striking resemblance to Ariza IMO and I think his scoring numbers have been slightly inflated due to playing on teams that arent very good. Not to mention we could just waste our time chasing him and just be matched.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
2004-2005 Sim League World Champion Los Angeles Lakers
Nobody likes Randolph as another front court option off the bench huh?? I love his per minute production and his potentially manageable contract...
And I appreciate that WhoDatMan504!
If we really wanted Batum, the best way to go about it is to offer him immediately. Portland said earlier in the offseason they had hoped Batum would wait for them to sign some other pieces before re-signing him (They have his bird rights, meaning they can go over the cap to re-sign him). Batum, however, said he'd sign the first offer he got if it was to his liking. This will force Portland's hand. Do they want him over other potential free agents? It's a toss up, but I'm guessing we have a slightly better chance of signing him than missing out given the way Batum feels about Portland at the moment.
Last edited by mdaniel; 06-07-2012 at 11:53 AM.
I'm not sold on Batum. Is he an upgrade to ariza? Ariza has excellent defense with 1.7 steals per game. Ariza's rebounding is slightly better and his assists per game is over 3 vs Batum which is just over 1.
Batum is a decent defender who can block shots. He is a very good 3 point shooter and ft shooter as well. He is clearly better than ariza on offense. He is younger and could fit well in our system. I think giving him 3 year deal for 24 million is a great deal for him. We would need to trade Ariza for this to work.
I want to see us resign Kaman and Gordon. Let Landry go. Draft Kendall Marshall, Rivers, or Tyler zeller or Meyers Leonard. We should keep Okufor if we can't sign Kaman. Davis will automatically make the whole team better.
Imagine: PG: Kendall Marshall, Vasquez
SG: Gordon, Jack, Henry
SF: Batum, Aminu
PF: Davis, Landry
C: Kaman, Smith, Ayon
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)