for me it is.
Does it look like people around here are happy?
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Well the people that realize we have the best playoff schedule we could possibly get.
Not happy about losing, but I do know that we just bumped up our chances of going further in the playoffs.
TC's postgame comments have me a bit bummed.
what did he say?
He said the more minutes he plays the more the ankle hurts, and he knows he won't be able to give it 100% this postseason.
that's just great news!Originally Posted by NIH
This should not be surprising to us. If you paid careful attention to what was being said about his status, you could clearly tell he wasn't going to be a major factor in the playoffs.Originally Posted by NIH
I'm never particularly happy when either the Hornets or the Saints lose a close game, I have strained vocal chords and the occasional torn up TV set to prove that for you, but still with this loss, it isn't the end of the world. Our season is not over, we have a better lot then some of the the WC teams. At least we won't have to play Utah, L.A., San Antonio, Houston, or Portland in the 1st round. If we play our cards right, we might make some noise in the post-season. I'm glad we're playing a Nuggets team that has a good offense but a mediocre defense, that can be managed much more to our advantage.
Thank God we are not playing Houston. I know I sure as hell am. Yao Ming looks like a man who is pissed to have never won an NBA playoff series, he is damn and determined to end that this year, thankfully he'll do it to someone else.
Just worry about Denver lads. That's our objective right now. All else is not be considered right now
I liked what the loss brought to us but at the mean time it always feels great to beat SA.
We have the best schedule any hornets fan should dream of. We play a Denver team who we matchup very well against and can beat at their home easier than Houston or Portland. If we make it to the second round, we would play SA or Dallas. On the other hand, wait for LA, Utah, Houston and Portland to beat the hell out of each other going to the WCF.
What else do you guys need?!
I'm not exactly happy, but I didn't mind the loss at all.
No. Denver is deeper. We are actually a better defensive team, but everyone's favorite JR Smith is going to make a point to kill us(I realize he could be dumb enough to cost his team a W). I'll bet anyone that Hornets fans will be more pissed if this guy is the reason we lose than if Peja shoots 25%. Between 'Melo and JR we have no one who can guard those guys for 48 minsOriginally Posted by Taxidriver
Considering Dallas beat SA (with a res hot Finley) I would have liked our chances against them. But quietly confident about beating Denver, that said Dallas woulda been quietly confident about beating us last year in a series.
We all really need to believe in these Hornets, they're capable.
I'm not happy- I'm optimistic. For some reason I just think Byron's been holding something back but I don't know what. Maybe that's just a little bit to optimistic. As for Tyson- I think he'll be fine and out there. Could be mind games. Same reason I'm not convinced 100% (maybe 90%) that Garnett's not done. 1st round team plans for him...2nd wouldn't. Now we have Karl putting situations together for Hilton and Marks about 50% of the time- Tyson would be out there. I hope he's holding on to something. I don't think we can win if he gives a sub part effort.
I think the Hornets have cruised thru the regular season, waiting for the playoffs. Look for them to give maximum effort. I have a good feeling about this series.
First, let me introduce myself in a paragraph. I am a basketball writer on the internet who started out as a "Nuggets specialist" 2 1/2 years ago and was a Nuggets and Pistons specialist this year. My operating system is not working and I am afraid to reinstall the operating system until this coming Thursday or so. Since I can't do everything I normally do on my site right now, which ticks me off, I decided I would hang out here until at least then.Originally Posted by redhornet
I know the Nuggets like the back of my hand.
Melo has had only one single good playoff series: the first San Antonio one, in 2005 I believe. He was a rookie in 2004, was not good in the 2006 Clippers series, nor in the 2007 Spurs series, and was really off in the 2008 Lakers series.
J.R. Smith has never had a good playoff series yet. He for the most part was benched by George Karl in the 2007 Spurs series, and had a couple of good games in the 2008 Lakers series but still not a good series overall.
You are correct that in theory Melo and J.R. Smith represent a massive amount of potential offense. In reality though, neither of these players have shown anything much in any playoff series yet (except for Melo in 2005) and they are both limited in the playoffs by the fact that George Karl is a bad offensive coach.
George Karl is not really qualified to coach offense in the NBA playoffs, it's that simple.
This year Karl proved he is a good defensive coach for a regular season; he didn't prove anything on offense, because the Nuggets should have been even better than they were on offense.
Last edited by tremaine; 04-19-2009 at 11:11 AM. Reason: Corrected the history (the years)
If the Hornets are really lucky they can't be beat by either Melo or J.R. Smith because both of them are having bad series again. I wouldn't count on that happening.
The odds are, however, that the Hornets are going to have to contain one or the other. Since you don't know which one of them to worry about going into the series, it will be up to Byron Scott to get that detail right no later than game 3.
Since the Nuggets have all of these bargain players who are playing all out on both sides of the ball, and since they have Billups and a surprisingly good on offense Nene, the Hornets do not have the luxury of keying in on both Melo and Smith at the same time.
If both Smith and Anthony have a solid playoff series, which would be truly amazing, the Nuggets will probably win the series no matter what the Hornets do. I highly doubt that is going to happen.
I always correct any error I might make (I don't make many lol) and I made a little mistake above, so....
It was the actually the 2007 Spurs series that was the one and only Carmelo Anthony playoff series where he was about as good on offense as he is n the regular seasons, not the 2005 Spurs series.
Not counting this series starting tonight, Melo has been in 5 playoff series, one every year from 2004 through 2008. Every single one of those series were lost 4 games to 1. Melo has been offensively way below average in every one of those series except for the 2007 Spurs series. This is the kind of record that practically shouts out to you that he has never had a solid offensive coach in the NBA.
That one series where Melo was alright, the 2007 Spurs series, was the series in which George Karl benched JR Smith after game one. There was no possible way for the Nuggets to win the series after that benching, nor even for the Nuggets to not be demolished. So that benching incident started me down the road of really hating the way Karl thinks about basketball, and really hating the way he coaches basketball offense. Or doesn't coach it...
Or, that the dude doesn't show up for the playoffs. Reminds me of Big Joe Thornton with the San Jose Sharks. Dude is a killer during the regular season, but his productivity drops 33% or better during the playoffs. It's like he has a block. A no show. Etc.Not counting this series starting tonight, Melo has been in 5 playoff series, one every year from 2004 through 2008. Every single one of those series were lost 4 games to 1. Melo has been offensively way below average in every one of those series except for the 2007 Spurs series. This is the kind of record that practically shouts out to you that he has never had a solid offensive coach in the NBA.
Time for some football!!!
Rookies and even 2nd year players are almost expected to be limited in the NBA plyayoffs compared with the regular season. (That's why everyone was shocked with Derrick Rose yesterday).
But Melo has been poor in the playoffs in the 3rd and the 5th year as well, which is rare and means that something is very, very wrong.
Michael Jordan was not able to be quite as good in the playoffs as he was in the regular season for years, but in his case the dropoffs from the regular season to the playoffs in his early years were no where near great as the Anthony dropoffs have been. The Anthony dropoffs have been astounding.
It's hard to imagine that any major NBA player would mail it in for the playoffs, but I guess you can't entirely rule out that Melo might have done so for a series or two, particularly if Anthony is smarter than he seems and knew that even if he went all out, the Nuggets were going to lose those series, which is the case. The Nuggets were going to lose all of those series whether Melo mailed it in or not.
I know for an absolute certainty that he didn't mail it in in 2007 or 2008, and that he won't be mailing it in this year.
Last edited by tremaine; 04-19-2009 at 12:40 PM.
I have to disagree with tremaine.
I think it is a given that Melo and JR will get "theirs" just like CP and David West.
The matchup that will decide the series IMO is Chandler vs Nene.
However if you are correct about your speculation of melo having a bad series, then their is no way the Nuggets can win. Teams in the playoffs usually only go as far as their leaders take them.
The Hornets received the best possible match up..The Hornets are not going to have to see LA or Hou until the WCF...losing the spurs game was a blessing. I don't understand why BS and the team were trying to win that game in the first place...We didn't want to HOU
Dell Demps PLEASE get us some scorers!
true, but had houston won vs. the mavs, the seedings would have been different. it just worked out this way.Originally Posted by Alg_Hornet
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