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  1. 02-23-2005, 10:10 PM #1
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    Breaking News Hornets in Discussions w/ Warriors

    Just reported on ESPN Hornets are in serious negotiations for dale davis and then some. Other players/consideration would probably be involved
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    The Golden State Warriors are in serious discussions with the New Orleans Hornets to acquire Baron Davis before Thursday's 3 p.m. trading deadline, league sources told ESPN.com.

    The Warriors have the expiring contract of Dale Davis to build a package around, but it's believed that other players from both teams would be involved -- as well as future draft considerations going to the Hornets -- to convince New Orleans to part with its former All-Star guard.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...arc&id=1998391

    Yeah, that's about right.
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    I could see Dunleavy added, that'll go pretty good w/ our trend of white boys! lol
  4. 02-23-2005, 10:15 PM #4
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    I think this is one of two deals on the table, but I think a deal with an EC team may be ahead of it on the burner...

    If we trade BD to GS, we will be short at PG. Keep that in mind. Dale Davis' deal isn't enough to complete the deal...
  5. 02-23-2005, 10:18 PM #5
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    +3 Chad504boy and PyroCross

    That's one of the teams I've heard that's involved in the BD lottery
  6. 02-23-2005, 10:18 PM #6
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    Dale Davis??

    Unless we're trading Magloire too, I don't get it.

    If we get Golden State's 1st rounder, Dunleavy and Speedy Claxton, let's do it!

    ew Orleans trades: SF Lee Nailon (15.7 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 31.7 minutes)
    PG Baron Davis (19.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 7.3 apg in 33.8 minutes)
    SF George Lynch (4.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 23.7 minutes)
    New Orleans receives: SF Mike Dunleavy (12.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.9 minutes)
    PG Speedy Claxton (13.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 6.1 apg in 32.6 minutes)
    C Dale Davis (3.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.0 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -10.3 ppg, -0.1 rpg, and -2.0 apg.

    Golden State trades: SF Mike Dunleavy (12.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.9 minutes)
    PG Speedy Claxton (13.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 6.1 apg in 32.6 minutes)
    C Dale Davis (3.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.0 minutes)
    Golden State receives: SF Lee Nailon (15.7 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 31.7 minutes)
    PG Baron Davis (19.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 7.3 apg in 33.8 minutes)
    SF George Lynch (4.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 23.7 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +10.3 ppg, +0.1 rpg, and +2.0 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to New Orleans and Golden State being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. New Orleans and Golden State had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
  7. 02-23-2005, 10:19 PM #7
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    Tb!!!???
  8. 02-23-2005, 10:20 PM #8
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    Sorry, but I'd rather get Mickael Pietrus (or Dunleavy), Dale Davis and their 05 1st rounder. If we get that sort of deal for Baron, we HAVE to do it.
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    I'm very curious which EC team harvey's talking about. I'm assuming its not toronto. Possibly Philly?
  10. 02-23-2005, 10:21 PM #10
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    Dale Davis comes off the books after this season. This would clear a lot of cap room for us. Dale Davis has a "crazy big" contract.

    I still think another deal might pop up. We'll see.
  11. 02-23-2005, 10:22 PM #11
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    A chance to get two picks in the top 5 or 6.... HELL YEAH! Do It Do It
  12. 02-23-2005, 10:22 PM #12
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    Well, Dale Davis is an expiring contract so I sort of get it now. I just wish we could get more than expiring contract for B-Fizzle, but if we get that and a high 1st rounder, I guess I'm happy.

    2 picks in probably the top 6 plus a bunch of cap room to sign 2 or 3 FA's and we can be a playoff team in a year or 2.
  13. 02-23-2005, 10:23 PM #13
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    New Orleans trades: PG Baron Davis (19.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 7.3 apg in 33.8 minutes)
    New Orleans receives: SF Mike Dunleavy (12.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.9 minutes)
    C Dale Davis (3.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.0 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -3.7 ppg, +6.0 rpg, and -4.1 apg.

    Golden State trades: SF Mike Dunleavy (12.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.9 minutes)
    C Dale Davis (3.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.0 minutes)
    Golden State receives: PG Baron Davis (19.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 7.3 apg in 33.8 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +3.7 ppg, -6.0 rpg, and +4.1 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to New Orleans and Golden State being over the cap, ....

    OR

    New Orleans trades: PG Baron Davis (19.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 7.3 apg in 33.8 minutes)
    SF George Lynch (4.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 23.7 minutes)
    SF Rodney Rogers (9.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 2.0 apg in 29.7 minutes)
    New Orleans receives: C Dale Davis (3.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.0 minutes)
    SF Mike Dunleavy (12.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.9 minutes)
    PG Speedy Claxton (13.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 6.1 apg in 32.6 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -3.9 ppg, -0.1 rpg, and -2.3 apg.

    Golden State trades: C Dale Davis (3.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.0 minutes)
    SF Mike Dunleavy (12.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.9 minutes)
    PG Speedy Claxton (13.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 6.1 apg in 32.6 minutes)
    Golden State receives: PG Baron Davis (19.7 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 7.3 apg in 33.8 minutes)
    SF George Lynch (4.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 23.7 minutes)
    SF Rodney Rogers (9.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 2.0 apg in 29.7 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +3.9 ppg, +0.1 rpg, and +2.3 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to New Orleans and Golden State being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. New Orleans and Golden State had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement


    I just hope its something like these deals. Where the Hornets only lose BD and dead weight, while picking up young prospects and contracts expiring this year.
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    With Davis coming off the books, B-fiz gone, DW and DA's contracts gone, and probably Mash and Rogers traded and contracts gone, we are going to have a lot of money.
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    How do adding draft picks affect those trades being accepted cap wise and all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smirk
    With Davis coming off the books, B-fiz gone, DW and DA's contracts gone, and probably Mash and Rogers traded and contracts gone, we are going to have a lot of money.
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    draft picks = 0 against the cap
  18. 02-23-2005, 10:29 PM #18
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    chad: They don't, we use trade exceptions for the cap.

    Another one: Dale Davis, 2005 1st rounder, Christian Laettner's contract ($5M contract right there, ends this year) and Mickael Pietrus for Lee Nailon, Jackson Vroman and Baron Davis.

    Throw Dunleavy in if we throw West.
  19. 02-23-2005, 10:29 PM #19
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    Can't trade Vroman in a packaged deal.
  20. 02-23-2005, 10:29 PM #20
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    Yeah, but remember when the Saints had like 14 million in cap space last year? They did squat with it.

    I'm not comparing to (Haz/Loom/Benson), but just because we have money doesn't mean we'll get anything good. Besides, this was a bad year to clear money and get high draft picks.
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    Seems like Dunleavy & Speedy would fit in pretty well w/Byron's system...not sure about whoever else would come as filler
  22. 02-23-2005, 10:32 PM #22
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    Getting draft picks... might not be a great year but its better than never. And just cause we have cap space doesn't mean we have to spend it for the sake of spending it this offseason. Maybe we'll be able to SIGN STROMILE SWIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
  23. 02-23-2005, 10:32 PM #23
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    did anyone actually read the article on espn.com....Was it just me or did Marc Stein just add a paragraph to his article that was posted about BD feeling unwanted in NO that was on espn.com yesterday?
  24. 02-23-2005, 10:32 PM #24
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    I don't think more than 3 or 4 players (total) would be involved in this deal. I don't see all of these 4 for 4 deals happening.
  25. 02-23-2005, 10:33 PM #25
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    Harvey, only one deal can happen. Its impossible for all 4 to happen sillY!
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