STOP THE ROBIN LOPEZ TRADE SCENARIOS!!!!!

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Prisoner of the moment. Yes, he played great last night, but are we already forgetting the three game stretch last week where he had 3 defensive rebounds total?

He is a solid 3rd or 4th big, but as countless others have address, AD and Davis will each need 35 minutes a night when this team hits its peak and J-Smitty is a good 3rd big. Plus, there will be more bigs available this offseason than wings and PG's.

And the reason Lopez is in all these trade scenarios isn't because we think he stinks- quite the opposite. He is one of the only Hornets with trade value. It is a compliment to how he is playing. Of course we all would prefer to give up Aminu or Henry, but no team in the league would give back anything of value for those guys.

If you want to propose a realistic trade scenario, the only thing of value you can put on the Hornets end is Lopez, their 1st, and maybe Vasquez. So no, people will not stop.Sorry.

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Well in that case... the trade deadline cannot get here fast enough so these 2k13 GM's can stop the foolishness. The team is what it is a work in progress.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Prisoner of the moment. Yes, he played great last night, but are we already forgetting the three game stretch last week where he had 3 defensive rebounds total?

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I really don't know what you expected? He isn't going to average 10 rebounds a game, we all knew that coming in (i guess not all of us). He isnt a high rebound guy, especially after his surgery and if you thought he would be then you didnt do your homework. He is going to give us a decent offense game at the center position and he is going to play good defense. He isn't going to win many tipoffs or dunk from the free throw line while jumping over a kia. Sorry but you are dead wrong.

I like Lopez. I would rather suck with him, than trade him for another marginal talent (and still suck). Lets face it, if we package him in any other trade we won't be getting worth while.

I really like Lopez, and I don't think there are a lot Center at that level for 5 mio on the market!

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Originally Posted by Q-Pon

I really like Lopez, and I don't think there are a lot Center at that level for 5 mio on the market!

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The only Centers not on rookie scale deals that you can argue are having better seasons making less money are JJ Hickson and Pekovic. So, you are correct, he is a great value overall. That has never been the question. The question is: Are you better served with a lesser player as your 4th big and a significant improvement in your backcourt or is your team better served keeping Lopez and hoping to fill in the holes in another way?

No right or wrong answer, but that is the question because there is no doubt to the answer if the question simply is- Does Lopez provide good value for his contract?

Define "improvement to your backcourt."

Eric Bledsoe, Avery Bradley, Kyle Lowry, Gerald Henderson, Alexey Shved- guys like that who could be part of a trade involving multiple pieces. You get one of those guys, then sign someone like Mozgov in the offseason for less than Lopez.

Would you rather have Henderson and Mozgov or Lopez and a Roger Mason type? Both pairs cost you around 6.5 million. Again, no right answer, but it is a debate- not like it is clear as day either way

I'd take Henderson and Greg Oden over Lopez and mason

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Eric Bledsoe, Avery Bradley, Kyle Lowry, Gerald Henderson, Alexey Shved- guys like that who could be part of a trade involving multiple pieces. You get one of those guys, then sign someone like Mozgov in the offseason for less than Lopez.

Would you rather have Henderson and Mozgov or Lopez and a Roger Mason type? Both pairs cost you around 6.5 million. Again, no right answer, but it is a debate- not like it is clear as day either way

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I've been saying adding Avery Bradley could be a really good sneaky good move.

I would take a shot at Oden once he's ready ... again.

isn't this year the year he's suppose to be ready? Rehab last season then come back for this season.

Yeah, he'll be back very soon. I heard something like Jan 2nd. He still has a year on his rookie deal though so i doubt Boston moves him.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I've been saying adding Avery Bradley could be a really good sneaky good move.

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Here's the deal:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cqongzc

Plus the Celtics throw in two 1st rounders.

Fab Melo has actually been playing well in the D-League. Could get 8 minutes next year, 12 the year after, etc. Bradley was as hyped as Eric Bledsoe is now before the injury. Elite on-ball defender.

Would have

GV/Rivers/Roberts
Gordon/Bradley
/Miller
Anderson/Smith/L. Thomas
Davis/Melo

Plus a high 1st rounder and 17 million in cap space next summer

10 points in the 1st quarter for Lopez. But it's just 1 game.

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My bad 14

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Here's the deal:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cqongzc

Plus the Celtics throw in two 1st rounders.

Fab Melo has actually been playing well in the D-League. Could get 8 minutes next year, 12 the year after, etc. Bradley was as hyped as Eric Bledsoe is now before the injury. Elite on-ball defender.

Would have

GV/Rivers/Roberts
Gordon/Bradley
/Miller
Anderson/Smith/L. Thomas
Lopez/Melo

Plus a high 1st rounder and 17 million in cap space next summer

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You mean Davis instead of Lopez.

Dude is more than a 4th big... he's only 3rd on this team b/c we are abundantly rich with Davis and Anderson. Anderson's D isn't nearly as good as Rolo. Perhaps give him another year of recovery and see if his rebounding improves? Or better yet, more time in the system.

Rolo is a starter and could be the Defensive anchor on this team for years to come. Add in his improved offense and mean streak w/ his ridiculously awesome contract and that we gave him the chance to start when no one would? Yeah... better move him ASAP.

He is NOT going to be traded. Anyone wasting time including Lopez in a trade needs to find a hobby fast. Monty loves the length and he is developing a culture, And you cannot do that trading strong assets for " the sexy window dress"

Especially with the contract he has, even if next year he comes out and regressed for some reason. We can trade him or release him at the end of the year. Don't know why anyone would want to trade him. This is the center we have been waiting for since Tyson's first year here.

First Davis and Anderson were going to be the starting front court. Then they sign Lopez so he's just going to come off the bench to spell Davis.

Now that he's starting and playing well...TRADE HIM! :hihi:

Henderson and Bradley would be good grabs for Lopez, and I would be okay with trading him for them. Neither Lowry nor Alexey Shved would be available IMO as their teams don't need a big more than a starting wing. I don't thing Lopez would be good enough to grab Bledsoe, but I would be extremely happy if we could.

Yeah, I forgot. Fans only want to trade their bad players and expect to get a king's ransom for them.

When will people understand that those who are pro trading Lopez want to move him because he is good, not because we think he stinks? To get quality, you have to give quality.

But we can stop the Lopez trade scenarios and go back to the Trade Ideas that involve us moving Henry or Aminu for a quality starter. I'm on board with that

Lets not trade anyone, let aminu and Henry expire and build this team through the draft and free agency? Why make trades this year when we aren't doing anything?

Some people want to trade just because. If we need to trade good players let's put Davis and Anderson on the block, those guys have great upside.

I understand. But Lopez playing this way on a fairly normal clip would be amazing. There is enough game time for he ad23 and ryno to all play enough