New Orleans Crescents
Especially since the Suns are now an enemy.
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New Orleans Crescents
Especially since the Suns are now an enemy.
That's different and you know it. Do you really think if a New York team was rebranding they would have chosen "the Knicks?" That name was chosen decades ago, in a different era, and has created a marketing stream for itself over time, not unlike "the Celtics."
Global marketing was non existent in the early days of American professional sports. The Cleveland Browns? Really?
New Orleans Corsairs.
Not different at all. You don't need to know what a Knickerbocker actually is to know that's the name of the professional basketball team in New York. That's what the name is for. It's not so people can go "Oh, that's a cool name." It's what they call THIS team by. And if you want to know, it's the Information Age and Google exists.
What, so fans in China will dismiss Krewe cuz they don't know what it means? They only speak English as a class requirement at best and based off Drake lyrics at worst.
And, again, if they want to know, they'll look it up, someone can tell them.
Edit: I mean, do you think the story of the Chicago Bulls name choice means much to people? I highly doubt it. Now it's just what we all know the Chicago basketball team as.
I'm saying of virtually all the names that have been thrown out there, Krewe is by far the least marketable on a national/international level. It's just a fact. If you have to google it, ...........
It is absolutely different. When a team name exists before you were born, it just is what it is. That's different than when a team name is being created in the present time.
And it's not like I don't like the name Krewe. At certain points, i've actually preferred it to others. I also like Pelicans, Brass, Crescents, and Revelers.
I can just see David Stern reading the rebranding proposition, going "What the **** is a Krewe?" and crumpling up the paper.
EDIT: But if we're going with Angels or Spirit, like has been rumored, i'd just as soon keep Hornets.
I heard that Mr. Benson recently offered the arena football league something north of $1 mil for ownership of the New Orleans Voodoo name.
Another thing for people to remember. The AFL is small potatoes. Small, small, small potatoes. I would be amazed if the owners made more than a couple hundred thousand dollars in profit per season. Obviously that's a lot to us average joes but if you net like $300k per season on your venture and some dude comes waiving $3 million in your face... that's ten years of profit. Arguably five more than your league might be in existence.
Please, Mr. Benson, initiate the rebranding process yesterday!
Please be the smart business guy you are Mr. Benson and don't alieniate a core of your fanbase and rebrand an NBA team something as twisted as Voodoo.
It's a classy sig, is what it is.
Hell, pun intended, I'm down for Voodoo being our name just so to see WDC go on a crusade.
Just give me two more Hornets seasons. Then I'll be fine with the rebrand. The rule is 25 months anyway, right?
I'm meh about the Voodoo name, but anything is better than the Char....I mean New Orleans Hornets!
Maybe it's because I'm not from New Orleans and don't have a grasp on the local themes, but I have no idea why anybody would want to name their team the Pelicans.
No, that name would be alieniating the casual banbase from the people on the North shore. When the Hornets get good, it will also be a turnoff to the future fans we no longer have. The name has an extremely negative meaning to it and any smart business is not going re-brand his NBA team a name that is offensive to a significant share of his fanbase.
You keep going on about how Benson wouldn't re-brand his NBA team that name...WHEN HE'S ALREADY TRIED TO BUY THE NAME!
And lest we forget, HE ORIGINALLY NAMED HIS AFL TEAM THE VOODOO. You don't like the name. Fine, it's okay. You don't have to. You can even justify your dislike with your religious beliefs.
But you're projecting your own beliefs onto others and blatantly ignoring every single fact pushed your way. I mean, "extremely negative meaning to it"? Lemme guess your only experience to Voodoo is something about people shoving needles into dolls and skinny men with big purple n black top hats turning people into frogs?
Just put him on ignore, already. The guy is obviously a troll and why he's still allowed to post is beyond me.
What will the colors probably be?
It is anyone's guess.
Devil red and black.
I like NOLA Knights
In my opinion, the fact of the matter is that Eman's opinion of what a fact is differs from the factual opinions of others.
Consider your ways, Eman, or you will Bourre both spiritually and realityly.
More news on this front (crediting Migle posting at NolaSportsKrewe.com):
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A couple of weeks ago the AFL and the AFLPU had agreed to a new CBA that would raise league pay and last through the 2017 season. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on who you're pulling for here), the deal has begun to fall apart and it appears both sides need to get back to the table to negotiate again. But, as if the AFL wasn't already a joke as it is, the New Orleans Voodoo Owner Dan Newman took to twitter earlier today to fight with the director of the AFL Players Union.
http://www.nolasportskrewe.com/showthread.php?t=1631
UP, off the top of your head, is a brand more valuable when it is a part of an active, stable league or more valuable when it is not a part of such a thing?
Bear in mind, the Spirits of St. Louis are not valuable as a brand, but due to their hook into the TV deal.
Also, who was the first owner to recognize the fate of the original AFL?
Can you testify?
/puts on thinking cap
To answer the second question first: Tom Benson. In regards to value surely the active brand is not only more valuable to Newman/the AFL and, additionally, they have more leverage so long as the league is viable/in operations. Assuming the major goals of a sports brand are to: 1) sell tickets/sponsorships and 2) sell merchandise; an inactive/on strike league is apt to do very poorly in both of those departments. So you can either take the potentially zero money from owning or a few million from selling it.
Benson, nearing the end of his life (statistically speaking) has unlimited resources. Newman, who I believe is middle age or so, does not. Nor does the AFL. Also another thing to keep in mind, it isn't just Benson and Lauscha and the inner circle doing the negotiations. Benson hired lawyers from Covington and Burling (one of the most elite law firms in the world) to handle the negotiations/sale of the Hornets with the NBA. I'm sure he has a small army of mercenary lawyers working on this, too. If Benson really wants the Voodoo name I think it'll happen in August or not at all.
Sounds right.
Thanks.
* I have to admit I had to Google the St. Louis/NBA television deal thing. That one is right up there with George Lucas demanding 100% of Star Wars' merchandising rights and Fox shrugging and agreeing without a care.
You get that name because you are yapping without actually interating with the other people.
You think people agree with me? Child, check your notes. But, I interact with them, acknowledge their points, and vice versa. I've had dust ups with folks here and elsewhere, but in the end, we are actually talking and communicating.
Try it, and you may see some positive results.
UP, I came across researching the other brands. It's a fantastic story. Absolutely fantastic. And the money actually comes from the ABA 4 and none others. Amazing.
May the force be with your parallel.
Question... let's say they purchase the Voodoo. rarely is it seen that a team decides on a name without leaving it up to the fans right?
Correct me if I'm wrong please, but even dating back to the hornets original expansion there was a vote involving a handful of names and i know for sure the same happened with the bobcats & thunder.
Although there is much publicity to be gained from holding a contest I doubt Benson is trying to buy the name just to put it in his pocket. Even if a vote is held I'd bet anything it's by the organization itself and the results will be cooked to have Voodoo as the winner, anyway. Again, that is if he is still interested/negotiating for the name.
Of course, they could just not have a vote at all. I doubt anyone would really complain. In the end, it's not really a democracy.
Fans voted for Voodoo back in the day.
Read up on the contest for the Texans. Sham.
Wizards? I'm sure it won... because Seadogs and Dragons were among the competitors.
Billionaires get their way. The rest is illusion.