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Originally Posted by NBA Champs
Thats a good plan and all but what makes you think this is going to happen?
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Originally Posted by NBA Champs
Thats a good plan and all but what makes you think this is going to happen?
Well, at least the confrontations between Floyd and GerryV could be entertaining.
Geez, how'd this become such a cluster-eff in less than two seasons? :help:
:crytear: :crytear: :crytear: :crytear: :crytear: :crytear: :crytear:
I've said countless of times that firing Scott would be a very bad decision and no good would come out of it.
I'm glad you people finally got what you want, because this team isn't going anywhere this year
I essentially would work for free. They can pay me in Coca-Cola and Totino's frozen pizzas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harvey Hornet
Chris Paul for coach!!!!
CP3 4 HEAD COACH!
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Originally Posted by Harvey Hornet
i'll coach the big men. i'm only 5'10 but i could teach them few things :D
i agree but this team wasn't going anywhere regardless. actually it looks like things will get worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh! Captain
you again? go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh! Captain
this season is down the drain already
Someone who gets complete control and a boatload of $$$.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harvey Hornet
I don't disagree with you HH that this situation looks terrible at the moment, but the cupboard is not bare. CP3, DWest, Okafor, and some looming cap space could make this job attractive to someone if they get to run the show.
Winning less games when your team isn't going anywhere anyway is plenty good enough for me. Next year we can all think up cheesy Paul to Wall cheers ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh! Captain
Tim Floyd is a great coach andwill do a great job of coaching the post men and game planning. This will be a great role for him. He turned Magloire into an all star then he fell off the map after. His strength is getting production from undersized big men. He lso drwas up the best last second plays and out of bounds. Real basketball people understand how good he is. This will be the first time we will have some real baketball minds coaching since Scott came.
Yeah, I was in my email for about 20 minutes deleting old stuff and come here to see this. For some reason I can't stop laughing. :hihi:Quote:
Originally Posted by ReedSpeed
Tim Floyd is best at being a college coach imo. I don't know that NBA players respect him. Baron surely didn't but then again Baron is a special case so it will remain to be seen.
I'm not at all surprised by this. I looked for a breaking news bulletin each time the Hornets lost a game this season.
The official announcement:
November 12, 2009
NEW ORLEANS - The New Orleans Hornets announced today that they have relieved Byron Scott of head coaching duties. Scott will be replaced by General Manager Jeff Bower.
“I want to thank Byron for the hard work he has put in during his time with the Hornets,” said Hornets Owner George Shinn. “I’ve hired Jeff Bower to take over the coaching reign. He knows this team better than anyone, has the respect of the players and in basketball circles, is regarded as one of the best basketball minds in the business. This is our best opportunity to reach our goals this season.”
Bower, who has spent his 14-plus seasons with the club, has been an invaluable asset for the Hornets at all levels in basketball operations. He began his tenure with the Hornets as an advance scout from 1995 to 1997 before earning a promotion as the team’s director of scouting. In addition to his scouting duties during the 1998-99 season, Bower joined the coaching ranks as an assistant after Paul Silas was named interim head coach on March 7, 1999 (and helped him lead the Hornets to a 22-13 record). After serving as the assistant general manager for the 2000-01 season, Bower was promoted to general manager in June of 2001 and has since held that position. He returned to the bench as an assistant coach under Floyd in 2003-04. Bower’s years of experience working at all levels in the Hornets’ basketball operations department culminated with his appointment to the current post of general manager just prior to the start of the team’s 2005-06 training camp.
“Accountability was our theme this past summer,” said Hornets Vice President of Basketball Chad Shinn. “We talked about the fact that everyone on our staff is held to a certain standard of performance and we didn’t feel this was happening at the head coach level. We feel like we still have an opportunity with our nucleus to get to where we want and Jeff is the right guy, right now to move us in that direction from the bench.”
“As we look at our long-term coaching plans, it’s not about who the head coach is, it’s about the role of the head coach to get the team to perform to their capabilities and reaching our potential this season,” said Bower.
Prior to joining the Hornets, Bower enjoyed an impressive career at the collegiate level. He spent three years as an assistant coach at Penn State University from 1983-86 before moving to Marist College in Poughkeepsie, N.Y. After first serving as an assistant coach from 1986 through 1990, he was promoted to associate head coach, a position he held for five years. Bower helped lead the Red Foxes to an NCAA Tournament appearance in 1987 after winning the Northeast Conference.
In a related move, Tim Floyd has been hired as the top assistant coach.
Floyd served as head coach of the Hornets for the 2003-04 season, leading the team to a 41-41 record. Most recently, Floyd served as the head coach at USC from 2005-2009, leading the Trojans to a 85-49 mark and three NCAA appearances during his tenure. In the 2007 NCAA Tournament, Floyd led USC to a Sweet 16 appearance. The team’s 25-12 record that season set a record for most wins in school history. The Trojans advanced to the second round of the 2009 NCAA Tournament before falling to eventual runner-up Michigan State. Floyd also coached for the Chicago Bulls, Iowa State, the University of Idaho and Texas-El Paso. Floyd is a native of Hattiesburg, Miss., and a 1977 graduate of Louisiana Tech.
I have no problem with Bower as the coach at this point, this is the trend of the NBA with the GM taking over coaching duties mid-season. It saves money and also makes the GM a bit more responsible for the team he has assembled. Bower is a BB coach, whether he is any good, who knows.
The Floyd thing makes this move look bush league though.
We were already 3-6 and getting blown out by 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh! Captain
So it's kind of like Isiah. Now it's up to Bower to coach the team he put together.
Cold. :hihi:Quote:
Originally Posted by shanetrain93
Seems like Shinn STILL wants to contend this season, unbelievable but the guy is just delusional so we should expect it. Also note that they make zero mention of Floyd's Chicago tenure :hihi:Quote:
Originally Posted by say-what
Gerry V where yat?
Precisely, except Bower is a much lesser name and won't last nearly as long as Isiah did.Quote:
Originally Posted by HunnyB
all the drama queens, Jesus. Let the guy play one game and we'll see how this pans out. Maybe Bower isn't such a bad idea. Face it, if the guy makes it bad then next season we will have both new GM and HC... And Floyd was a great college coach who now might be a lot more mature than he was in his first nba span, this can work but nothing is written in stone at this point.
This season was written off when Scott entered it as a lame duck. It could only get worse from there and did.Quote:
Originally Posted by metalzo
Sure but Shinn was repeatedly making statements about how he thought this was the best team the Hornets ever had and he fully expected that they would compete for a title.Quote:
Originally Posted by say-what
Not being a drama queen...i personally have always thought bower should go BEFORE b scott goes.... now he's the coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fartman
Now, it's time to hire JVG and trade West, Posey, and Mo Pete.
I plan on being in the arena on Friday.
Wow I'm really excited for the Portland game now. We're gonna probably get blown out but I really want to see the new rotations. Light has just been added at the end of the Hornet tunnel from my perspective at least :)
yea i was just wondering how this will effect attendance?Quote:
Originally Posted by HunnyB
maybe not at all? only time will tell.
How can you assign someone the head coaching job when its his fault that he's put together this mess of a team in the first place. If anyone should have been fired, it should be Bower, not Scott
This screams of Isiah level of inadequacies and this team may end up being the laughing stock of the league next to the Knicks
whoa. i didn't expect this to happen so soon into the season.
That's what I was trying to say...the on the court effect with the new rotations and coaching strategies...I'm FREAKIN' PUMPED ABOUT IT!!! I want to see some FIYA!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by metalzo
a swanky hotel somewhere, in a deep depression :crytear:Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoDatHornet
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Originally Posted by Fartman
He has been offerd several assistant jobs in the past, including with the Spurs. He turned them down because he wanted to be free to take another head coaching job. He knows at his age and the Mayo thing he won't get that chance again. He is willing to go that route now and I'm glad we got him in that role.
I wonder what CP and DX think of this.
Are you serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by redzero
You want Jeff "Slow the game down to a snails pace while plodding up and down the floor" Van Gundy to run this team?
I rather have Mike Dumbleavy coaching this team than Van Gundy
I agree. I think he could really help us as assistant from an x's and o's standpoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by tbo
cp3, dwest, okafor, is a mess of a team???? who was the gm when these guys were drafted may i ask? this is why you are a rookie. horrible postQuote:
Originally Posted by Oh! Captain
I can almost guarantee that this move was not made before they got CP's blessing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sneakerhead
Troll Troll Go Away...Come again another day (or don't) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh! Captain
Seriously though while I would love to have JVG, he's not coming to New Orleans. He's perfectly happy with his cushy broadcast job. Also he'd be even more costly than Scott and I want them to save money with a cheap young coach and use the savings on SCOUTING.
Allan Bristow was.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmaninc68
This move will shed more light on the debate...whose fault is it. Scott has shown an inability to grwo and evolve as a coach. He was making the same mistakes last night that he was making last year, the year before that and in NJ. Bower put this team together, so the question remains" is it the players or the coaching?"
With how the Hornets have been playing, they can't get any worse
I'm glad to see Scott go. He had lost the players. Even though the talent is not there, an NBA coach has to find a way to make the players play. (If lack of talent was an excuse, there would be 25 teams laying flat on their backs every night like the Hornets we've seen this year.)
Bower is probably not a bad choice for now. He gets a chance to prove that it was Scott's fault for not using/developing the draft choices and young players he brought in.
Floyd has a great basketball mind. He knows the game and the strategy, but he's not really a leader (to put it lightly). My guess is he was brought in to do that nuts and bolts stuff for the rest of the season. Scott could have used a guy like Floyd, but he was too hard-headed and "old-school" "players coach" to realize that things like strategy -- plays, defenses, late game substitutions -- do have an effect on the outcome.
This looks like a transition team. Bower has the rest of the season to prove the talent is not as bad as it looks. The players need to respond because Bower is also the GM. Floyd is on board to make sure the transition period includes real basketball strategy and not just 15 agents telling their guys to get their shots.
Now they will probably need to trade West (who looks even more disinterested than usual) to get someone to take on some of our rich old man contracts and get some new talent (Rudy Gay) to mix in with CP3 and Okafor.
By the end of the season, it will be time to find the right long term coach. Bower either goes back to the GM role, or hits the road.
Its not a pretty plan, but it wasn't a pretty picture before the moves either.
If you ask me, a little of column A, a little of column B, though more column A than B. Beyond Chris Paul, Okafor, and West (who is declining already and was never good defensively) this team has very little talent. As GerryV and others keep saying, we don't have a single wing who can drive to the basket and create their own shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by roturn
Okafor isn't a right fit for this teamQuote:
Originally Posted by jmaninc68
Paying a player with known back problems the prior season, A wing player that no one else was willing to sign, and a broken down role player all to fat contracts thus forever crippling this teams salary cap and rendering placing decent role players around the core forever useless. Thats what I call a mess of a team
i didnt mean to say gm just in the prganization in general but actually bower was gm when west was drafted, he was promoted to gm in summer 2001, and resigned end of 2003, west was drafted in 03Quote:
Originally Posted by Sneakerhead
Wow....can't say that I'm shocked about Scott...I am shocked about Tim Floyd...don't know what to make of that!!!