Around the time we drafted him, we had discussion on what Davis could do offensively in his rookie season. I believe the general consensus was probably around 12-14 per game. What yall say now? After seeing him in preseason, today, etc I think that may be shorting him some. I would be shocked if he didn't average ATLEAST 16 per game, but a more realistic number may be 17-18.
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10-20-2012, 02:11 PMAD23forMVPAnthony Davis Points Per
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10-20-2012, 02:16 PMSnarly
I still think 12-14 average. Closer to 14 than 12 though.
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10-20-2012, 02:18 PMMeSoHornets504
I think 18 is realistic. Just because of a lack of options. If Davis isn't near 20 a game, I don't know where else we are getting any offense from.
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10-20-2012, 02:25 PMBee-Fense
Well, you have to keep in mind that we're playing without Eric Gordon right now, who will be our top scorer by far and most talented offensive player.
However, I originally said he'd average 12 ppg in his rookie year and that his career max would be around 19-20. Now seeing how he's been able to score in the preseason effectively, I'm going to say he averages 15 ppg in his rookie season, and eventually ends up averaging 22-24. He reminds me of Chris Bosh offensively. That's the kind of production I'm expecting from him on the scoring side of things. -
10-20-2012, 02:34 PMAD23forMVPI think Gordon will only open up more good looks for him, inside and out. If Gordon looks to pass (which I think he will, he showed that ability last season) then the looks will be there. I think his offensive production will eventually be better than 22-24, which is Bosh's career high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bee-Fense
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10-20-2012, 02:55 PMnolaslim213Agreed with everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by CP3forMVP
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10-20-2012, 03:04 PMBee-FenseGordon will increase Davis' efficiency yes but I think he's going to take away shots from Davis as well. I don't think Davis will be called upon to score nearly as much as he has so far in the preseason, but I could be wrong for all I know. It's just that it's his rookie year, and it's pretty rare to see a big man score close to 20 out the gate. Almost any rookie that does plays a ridiculous amount of minutes and I expect Davis to be around 32-34 this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by CP3forMVP
The PPG numbers in the NBA are also decreasing slowly but surely. Teams are becoming more balanced and there aren't as many truly elite scorers as there once was that just carry a team offensively. If Davis scored 22 PPG last year, he'd be the number 7 scorer in the entire NBA, and at 24 PPG he'd be number 5. That 22-24 range is also the career highs for Duncan, Dwight, and KG. That's the kind of scoring production I'm expecting from him. Borderline #1 option but it'd probably serve a team best if there was an equally talented scorer. Before I thought he was going to be an at best solid number 2 but I'm starting to think he can be a number 1 scoring option.
Regardless of how many PPG he puts up, I expect him to be incredibly efficient and be up there in win shares every single year. I think we agree on how effective he'll be, just a little different on a number, which isn't that big of a deal. -
10-20-2012, 03:36 PMBallSoHard
16-18 per game. I've upped my prediction as well.
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10-20-2012, 03:55 PMglepurple
Im thinking about 15 per
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10-20-2012, 04:14 PMMichaelMcNamara
I might be biased, as we are focusing on advanced stats more this season at H247, but I am more interested in what people think AD will produce in the following areas:
True Shooting Percentage
Points Per Shot
How many points he averages doesn't properly reflect how good of a player he is offensively IMO. 18 ppg on 46% shooting pales in comparison to 15 ppg on 61% from the field. Also, how many times does he get to the line (which will help his PPS and could improve his TS% if he hits his free throws)
My prediction:
TS %: 61%
PPS: 1.3
For those thinking I am speaking gibberish, check out this great piece by Mason:
http://www.hornets247.com/2012/10/20...art-1-scoring/ -
10-20-2012, 04:55 PMPerth_Hornet
I like it how everyone assumes Gordon will actually be healthy for any consistent stretch of games.
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10-20-2012, 05:02 PMda ThRONe
Initially I would have said between 9-11 this year, but judging on how anaemic our offense looks if Davis can hit that jumper I don't think 14 is out the question.
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10-20-2012, 05:19 PMPelicanFeverthose stats can be flawed like any stat can beQuote:
Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara
for ex, tyson chandler shot a very high shooting percentage with us because his offense is a dunk...same goes for deandre jordan
i hope davis doesn't shoot as high a percentage as those guys because that will mean his offensive game is limited -
10-20-2012, 05:54 PMMichaelMcNamara
Agreed- no stat is perfect, but to me, I would prefer an efficient player to a player who scores in bunches due to a high number of shots.
Davis "only" put up 15 PPG at Kentucky, but he lead the team in scoring despite taking the 5th most shots on the team. That is nuts!
People say Davis wasn't a scorer in college because of his PPG, but I disagree because I care more about efficiency. He was one of the most efficient players offensively in college basketball and to me, that is more reflective on his value offensively than PPG. -
10-20-2012, 08:47 PMneworleanshoo
i'll say 15, but it'll vary greatly.. he'll go off for 30 every once in a while, but he'll also fall into some offensive funks.
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10-21-2012, 07:03 AMKibner
I expect 12/8/2. Will be disappointed with less and pleasantly surprised with more.
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10-21-2012, 10:51 AMMr. West
Early in the year he will average closer to 17 or 18 IMO, but he will have a rookie slump towards the end due to the massive number of games towards the end where IMO he will dip to closer to 13. So it will average out as like 15 or 16.
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10-23-2012, 03:48 PMbradael
Well, now through 5 games, his stat-line is about what I originally expected him to get per 36 minutes as a rookie:
13.4 ppg 10.0 rbg, 1.2 apg, 1.4 bpg (just under 31 minutes per game).
I do expect him to average more than 1.4 blocks as a rookie, but I don't think he'll be anywhere near 4.0 at this stage in his career. Also interesting to note is that he's only averaging 1.4 fouls a game. He didn't pick up many fouls in college, and at least through 5 preseason games... that's continuing. Same for his low turnover margin. Only thing really concerning right now is his FG% (43.5%), although the 2/12 vs the Mavs is what basically killed that right now.
Per 36 minutes, Davis is currently at 15.7 ppg & 11.7 rbg. -
10-23-2012, 03:51 PMPurple Haze
I said 15/7/2 and I think I was spot on. Might even be more like 17 ppg
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10-23-2012, 03:53 PMPurple HazeOh MAN I hope he stays healthy(ish) because you could be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by CP3forMVP
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10-23-2012, 05:19 PMdcoop
Am I the only one who thinks Davis is showing a lack of effort during the pre sesaon
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10-23-2012, 05:24 PMEman5805Conserving himself, seems more likely. He's not gone after as many shots as he could.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcoop
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10-23-2012, 05:37 PMda ThRONeAs he should. As even the best of the best do in this league. 82 games some night back to back and 3 in 4 nights. That something he'll have to do to survive the grueling season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eman5805
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10-23-2012, 06:22 PMRaisingTheBarQuote:
Originally Posted by dcoop
Yeah effort is 1 thing you do not have to worry about with Davis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eman5805
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10-23-2012, 06:26 PMPurple Haze
Yes, the guy diving into the second row during an open scrimmage is not the guy you have to worry about being lazy :hihi:
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01-18-2013, 10:00 AMPurple Haze
Bump! :coolg:
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01-18-2013, 10:34 AMPilot172000
If AD can fiinish at 14 PPG and 10 RPG, I would call it a fantastic success. He has the tools and a year lie that for anybody his age would be amazing!!
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01-18-2013, 11:33 AMPurple HazeWell his per36 is 16/9.5 so he just needs more minutes. :coolg:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilot172000
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01-18-2013, 03:25 PMbradael
Yeah the lack of minutes is killing his numbers. However, with 4 good bigs on this roster, I can see why Monty is keeping Davis's minutes low to help him through the rookie wall.
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01-18-2013, 03:30 PMPurple HazeTotally agree, it's the smart plan. And it's working on both accounts, with Davis and with wins. :coolg:Quote:
Originally Posted by bradael
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01-18-2013, 08:45 PMPilot172000
Got no problem with how coach is handling his minutes, but you gotta know how much it is killing us fans not seeing him play as much.
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04-02-2013, 05:04 PMPurple HazeMan, less injuries and I think this would have been right on. :hihi:Quote:
Originally Posted by Purple Haze
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04-02-2013, 05:54 PMMr. WestExactly backwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. West
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04-12-2013, 05:21 PMFlyGirl
Hornets' Davis impresses in rookie season
http://www.wwltv.com/sports/basketba...202713831.htmlQuote:
NEW ORLEANS — Anthony Davis’ season ended three games early with a sprained medial collateral ligament and a bone bruise to his left knee.
But it wasn’t too early for Hornets coach Monty Williams to know that his rookie forward had grown, showing promise for the future.
“You look at his last five games, 18 and 10, something like that – that’s what we wanted,” Williams said. “We wanted to see him get consistently get better from when we first got a hold of him until now. We wanted to see a guy that was more comfortable on the floor, obviously scoring the ball, rebounding the ball, defending.
“Look at his lumps, he got better every month.”
Davis ended his season playing 64 games instead of the full 82 because of various injuries. But with less than a week left in the season, he has done enough to show that he had a positive year.
He’s fourth in the NBA among rookies, averaging 13.5 points per game. His 1.75 blocked shots per game are most among first-year players, as is his 8.2 rebound per game average.
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04-12-2013, 05:31 PMDroopyDawg
He can do 2 things that will make him a 20 ppg scorer...
1. More consistency with his mid-range jumper.
David West's game went to a new level when he got consistent with his jumper. AD's stroke is pure he just needs to work on it more, because once defenders have to run out at his jumper he has shown ability to handle the ball... it'll make it easier for him to go around defenders when they fly out at his jumper.
2. Make a decisive move when he gets that high post pass at the elbow.
They run alot of plays where AD gets a pass at the elbow and turns and faces his defender. If he can face the defender and make a hard move to the basket he'll be lethal. Defenders are normally lax'd in that position because 9 times out of 10... its a part of an offensive set. They're not expecting anything from him when he gets that pass. If he can get that pass at the elbow... rip through and go hard to the basket he'll either get the bucket... get fouled... or both.
One other thing that can happen, but it has nothing to do with AD... but we need a PG with better court vision and anticipation than GV. AD missed out on a ton of buckets because GV didn't throw the lob. AD would have avg'd 20 ppg this season with a PG like CP3. Let's hope Austin figures this out. -
04-12-2013, 06:13 PMInner_GI
I want Davis to catch and make a move right away. It drive me nuts when players catch and think or wait for the defense to catch up. A lot of time Davis isn't sure whether to take the shot or drive, and it gives Defenses times to react.