It won't be long now... HOOP TALK

It won't be long now! Soon we engage in some season long basketball talk.My observations and comments as I see the Hornets perform this year.

I like what I've seen so far.....lol.

But the interesting thing will be to see if Austin Rivers turns out to be a scrub or not.

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Originally Posted by sfernald

I like what I've seen so far.....lol.

But the interesting thing will be to see if Austin Rivers turns out to be a scrub or not.

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We won't be able to tell that for 3 years.

Austin Rivers=Reggie Bush?

I don't think I've ever been this excited about the season starting. 2Weeks!

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

We won't be able to tell that for 3 years.

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How long did it take to tell that CP3 was going to be a star?

The season needs to come fast. This part of the off season is what I like to call "dry season" no news worth looking at at all. Cant wait for AD23!!!!

random question, but who else thinks people are overreacting to the saints 0-2 record? The defense looks horrific but our offenses put up 27 points. Get spags new system down and we've got ourselves another playoffs season

The Good Music album will help speed up the time, followed by Kendrick Lamar and PA4. So back to Kid Cudi-Creepers I go while time fly by.

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Originally Posted by Trell

The Good Music album will help speed up the time, followed by Kendrick Lamar and PA4. So back to Kid Cudi-Creepers I go while time fly by.

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Childish Gambino- Roylaity

XV- Popular Culture

Ab-Soul- Control System

Those albums has been 2012 to me so much.

http://www.missinfo.tv/wp-content/up...city-cover.jpg

This album looks classic! The cover is very symbolic and deep. Also Food and Liquor 2 drops next week! OMG I cant wait!!!!!

and whats PA4?

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Originally Posted by sfernald

How long did it take to tell that CP3 was going to be a star?

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Rivers is coming out as a freshman. Also, he is switching positions from SG to PG. He was drafted as a "project," whereas CP was already NBA-ready. You know that. Come man... Use that noggin.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Rivers is coming out as a freshman. Also, he is switching positions from SG to PG. He was drafted as a "project," whereas CP was already NBA-ready. You know that. Come man... Use that noggin.

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Lol some people are already labeling Rivers a bust before he even gets the opportunity to prove his doubters wrong. It doesn't make any sense, especially considering that many of these people include Hornets "fans".

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Originally Posted by NOH2313

Lol some people are already labeling Rivers a bust before he even gets the opportunity to prove his doubters wrong. It doesn't make any sense, especially considering that many of these people include Hornets "fans".

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Rivers is a polarizing figure. Some people view his confidence as a bad thing, and it turns them off completely. I guess I can understand where they are coming from, but I couldn't disagree more.

I just wish people would give him a chance. I know that he probably won't set the world on fire this year, and I'm cool with it. He needs time to transition to a new position. It is what it is. I just know that most people won't give him that chance (people were already bashing him after Summer League).

What it boils down to is this: do you trust Monty and Dell? If you do, then shut up about the pick. If you don't, then I'd really like to know why because they have done a fantastic job since they got here.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Childish Gambino- Roylaity

XV- Popular Culture

Ab-Soul- Control System

Those albums has been 2012 to me so much.

http://www.missinfo.tv/wp-content/up...city-cover.jpg

This album looks classic! The cover is very symbolic and deep. Also Food and Liquor 2 drops next week! OMG I cant wait!!!!!

and whats PA4?

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Never had the time to liste to Gambino, only Bonfire and that was sick. Also I been tied up with alot of Mos Def, gosh the guys so talented. And PA4 sands for Paranormal Activity 4

Hornets record next season? I say 39-43

How do I start a new thread, I'm new here and I haven't really gotten to introduce myself

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Childish Gambino- Roylaity

XV- Popular Culture

Ab-Soul- Control System

Those albums has been 2012 to me so much.

http://www.missinfo.tv/wp-content/up...city-cover.jpg

This album looks classic! The cover is very symbolic and deep. Also Food and Liquor 2 drops next week! OMG I cant wait!!!!!

and whats PA4?

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Silverfoxx you have some great taste in music man!!

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Originally Posted by WhoDatHornet96

How do I start a new thread, I'm new here and I haven't really gotten to introduce myself

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On the Hornets Nest main page, where you can see all of the threads, towards the top left of the screen above the bolded words "Forum: Hornets Nest" there is a blue "button" that you click that says "+ Post New Thread." Click it, make a title for your thread, then underneath in the big box, write what you want to right.

P.S. Welcome to the board.

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Originally Posted by NOH2313

Lol some people are already labeling Rivers a bust before he even gets the opportunity to prove his doubters wrong. It doesn't make any sense, especially considering that many of these people include Hornets "fans".

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I know right

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Childish Gambino- Roylaity

XV- Popular Culture

Ab-Soul- Control System

Those albums has been 2012 to me so much.

http://www.missinfo.tv/wp-content/up...city-cover.jpg

This album looks classic! The cover is very symbolic and deep. Also Food and Liquor 2 drops next week! OMG I cant wait!!!!!

and whats PA4?

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I listened to Ab Soul and have all of Gambino's Stuff, but because everytime a thread turns to music, you mention XV, I finally went and got his stuff (I only knew him from "Awesome") Was not disappointed, just wanted to say thanks

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

On the Hornets Nest main page, where you can see all of the threads, towards the top left of the screen above the bolded words "Forum: Hornets Nest" there is a blue "button" that you click that says "+ Post New Thread." Click it, make a title for your thread, then underneath in the big box, write what you want to right.

P.S. Welcome to the board.

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Thanks so much. Its great to be here with people as obsessed with the hornets as I am.

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Originally Posted by HornetWHODAT3

Silverfoxx you have some great taste in music man!!

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Thanks homie!!!

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Originally Posted by LoCo89

I listened to Ab Soul and have all of Gambino's Stuff, but because everytime a thread turns to music, you mention XV, I finally went and got his stuff (I only knew him from "Awesome") Was not disappointed, just wanted to say thanks

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No problem. Check out his best two mixtapes Zero Heroes and Popular Culture!!!

With Gordon, Anderson, and Davis on the roster, the Rivers pick makes alot more sense now since he was the only guy on the board who could potentially start long-term. No other SFs available and Rivers was the best PG prospect at that point.

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Originally Posted by Hornets78

With Gordon, Anderson, and Davis on the roster, the Rivers pick makes alot more sense now since he was the only guy on the board who could potentially start long-term. No other SFs available and Rivers was the best PG prospect at that point.

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Exactly. I think, if Barnes fell to us, we'd take him over Rivers, simply because we need a SF more than a PG. Aminu can still develop into something, but we'll just have to wait and see on that. This will be a big year for him. Same with Henry. He can be a SF for us too. But Rivers at 10 was far and away the BPA with the most upside.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Exactly. I think, if Barnes fell to us, we'd take him over Rivers, simply because we need a SF more than a PG. Aminu can still develop into something, but we'll just have to wait and see on that. This will be a big year for him. Same with Henry. He can be a SF for us too. But Rivers at 10 was far and away the BPA with the most upside.

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Makes you wonder if Demps had already targeted Anderson before the draft and viewed Davis as a center long-term. By the 10th pick, mostly PFs and centers were available. Demps probably targeted Lillard, Barnes and Rivers for the 10th spot. Maybe Drummond, but not likely if he wanted Anderson to pair with Davis. Not sure who Demps would have liked assuming Toronto picked Rivers. Maybe Lamb I guess.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Rivers is coming out as a freshman. Also, he is switching positions from SG to PG. He was drafted as a "project," whereas CP was already NBA-ready. You know that. Come man... Use that noggin.

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Wow, you read a lot into my question that wasn't there. It was just a question. I wasn't around back then and I don't recall seeing Chris play in any games that season, though I'm sure I did. Can I take it from your reaction that he played like a superstar from his first game?

^ maybe not his first game, but he improved the team by like 20 wins his first season

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^ maybe not his first game, but he improved the team by like 20 wins his first season

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Actually he did play like a superstar in his first game :)

Anyway, no one is asking Rivers to be Chris Paul. Rivers is surrounded by more weapons long-term. He just has to make open shots, not turn the ball over, play solid defense and score when needed.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Exactly. I think, if Barnes fell to us, we'd take him over Rivers, simply because we need a SF more than a PG. Aminu can still develop into something, but we'll just have to wait and see on that. This will be a big year for him. Same with Henry. He can be a SF for us too. But Rivers at 10 was far and away the BPA with the most upside.

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I have high hopes for Aminu but not high expectations (if that makes sense). I think he'd be a solid backup but we need a solid SF... which we have time to get. We'll have money to spend on one after this season, or we could (hope to) draft one. Darius Miller... with some minutes... could be that dude. I actually have more faith that Miller will be THAT dude than Aminu or Henry.

JMO.

I agree Droopy. I have more faith in Miller compared to Aminu or Henry. All he has to do to start for this team long-term is hit open shots and play solid defense which he can do.

If Miller can drain the 3 and play defense, that is about all we need from the SF position. I would kill for a 3 who is automatic from 3 right now. It would open up the floor so nicely for Gordon and Rivers to create.

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Originally Posted by sfernald

Wow, you read a lot into my question that wasn't there. It was just a question. I wasn't around back then and I don't recall seeing Chris play in any games that season, though I'm sure I did. Can I take it from your reaction that he played like a superstar from his first game?

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My bad. I misunderstood the nature of your question. Yes. Paul was an obvious star after his first season. Keep in mind, though, that he was also a top-5 pick, and that is to be expected out of a player in that range, whereas a player taken at #10 can be a "project." Rivers has some of the highest upside in this draft. I am completely thrilled we took him at 10. That said, I hope people don't expect too much from him this year...

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

If Miller can drain the 3 and play defense, that is about all we need from the SF position. I would kill for a 3 who is automatic from 3 right now. It would open up the floor so nicely for Gordon and Rivers to create.



My bad. I misunderstood the nature of your question. Yes. Paul was an obvious star after his first season. Keep in mind, though, that he was also a top-5 pick, and that is to be expected out of a player in that range, whereas a player taken at #10 can be a "project." Rivers has some of the highest upside in this draft. I am completely thrilled we took him at 10. That said, I hope people don't expect too much from him this year...

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Wasn't he the #2 ranked player in high school? There is a chance he could be a star out of the gate right? It's not like it wasn't a deep draft or anything. He was in consideration for getting drafted higher I believe. I think he'll be better than waiters, who was what, drafted fourth?

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Originally Posted by sfernald

How long did it take to tell that CP3 was going to be a star?

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How long did it take David West? And he played 4 years in college.

Chris Paul was one of a kind. We knew he would be a star from day one, but it did take a couple of years to realize he was a superstar. Austin Rivers is not Chris Paul and we shouldn't expect him to be. It's Anthony Davis that we should expect to be the superstar.

If Austin Rivers turns into a 15/5 player at 45% shooting, then I'll be satisfied.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

I have high hopes for Aminu but not high expectations (if that makes sense). I think he'd be a solid backup but we need a solid SF... which we have time to get. We'll have money to spend on one after this season, or we could (hope to) draft one. Darius Miller... with some minutes... could be that dude. I actually have more faith that Miller will be THAT dude than Aminu or Henry.

JMO.

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Personally, I think Aminu fits this team just fine as a starter. He has a nice looking jump shot, so there is certainly a possibility that his shooting/offense improves... but I see him more as a Bruce Bowen type on this team. He's needed for his defense and rebounding more than anything else. Gordon, Rivers, Anderson, and Davis will be most of the offense.

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Originally Posted by sfernald

Wasn't he the #2 ranked player in high school? There is a chance he could be a star out of the gate right? It's not like it wasn't a deep draft or anything. He was in consideration for getting drafted higher I believe. I think he'll be better than waiters, who was what, drafted fourth?

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I totally agree, and it's completely possible that he busts out this year and plays great. My concern is that he is playing a brand new position. He has never played PG before, so I'm expecting growing pains. It wouldn't surprise me, though, if he made the "rookie team," but I'm just not expecting it. He has the talent though...

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

If Miller can drain the 3 and play defense, that is about all we need from the SF position. I would kill for a 3 who is automatic from 3 right now. It would open up the floor so nicely for Gordon and Rivers to create.

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I would absolutely kill to get Peja circa 2007/08 right about now. Him and RyNo on the wings is just UNFAIR. Sadly, nobody in the NBA compares to Peja's volume 3 - PT shooting except... RyNO!!!! LOL

We don't need Miller to be like Peja from beyond the arc. Someone who can shoot 37% and defend well. Someone who can complement.