For those of you who wanted to after a PG in FA.....

All the good ones are basically gone now......

Jrue 4/46
Lawson 4/48
Curry 4/44

Jennings didn't reach an agreement with the Bucks. No surprise there.

Teague, Collison, and Maynor are some other notable restricted free agents.

Billups, Moe, Jack, Calderon, Harris, and Augustin will all be unrestricted.

Any point guard free agent mentioned above, or no mentioned, seem intriguing?

Personally, I think we should continue to focus on developing Rivers. Our money could be better served addressing our wing depth and possibly big man rotation.

CP3 :hihi:

Patrick Mills.. most underrated player in the league.. wasting talent on the spurs bench

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Originally Posted by Pantazis76

Patrick Mills.. most underrated player in the league.. wasting talent on the spurs bench

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He's got a player option.

While I agree he's extremely talented, underused, and underrated, I don't think he necessarily would be a great fit on our roster.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

CP3 :hihi:

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Lmao.....there is a reason I completely ommitted him from my list. It is way too unrealistic.

We can dream, I guess!

I like Augustine on that list. young pg who will hit the 3 & his free throws

I wonder what the chances are that we make a big run at Jennings.

I'm not his biggest fan, but supposedly Demps likes him a lot.

Given the shrinked market for PGs, I suspect he'll demand quite a bit.

I hope he demands more than we're willing to pay.

Jennings will never want to play here, and every person in our fan base would hate him. He is incredibly delusional about his own abilities, and I believe is on the record saying a player of his talent shouldn't have to play on Milwuakee. No way Monty would want to sign him.

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Originally Posted by MeSoHornets504

Jennings will never want to play here, and every person in our fan base would hate him. He is incredibly delusional about his own abilities, and I believe is on the record saying a player of his talent shouldn't have to play on Milwuakee. No way Monty would want to sign him.

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His attitude stinks. I also know that he's more interested in playing for a bigger market team.

I won't be sulking if we pass on him.

He is clearly the most talented PG available in FA, though.

The question that remains is: Does his attitude offset his talent/on court production?

Supposedly his career arc closely resembles that of Tony Parker statistically speaking.

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Originally Posted by NOH2313

His attitude stinks. I also know that he's more interested in playing for a bigger market team.

I won't be sulking if we pass on him.

He is clearly the most talented PG available in FA, though.

The question that remains is: Does his attitude offset his talent/on court production?

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When that player can shoot over 48% and help his team out of the lottery. Then I can see some talk about taking on a bad attitude.

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Originally Posted by MeSoHornets504

When that player can shoot over 48% and help his team out of the lottery. Then I can see some talk about taking on a bad attitude.

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The argument can be made that his statistics/inefficient play is a reflection of playing on a lottery bound team though.

After all, Milwaukee has never had a legitimate secondary option for Jennings until they traded for Ellis.

(Bogut was always hurt/banged up).

Just playing devil's advocate.

god damn! wanted Jrue...CP3 then

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god damn! wanted Jrue...CP3 then

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CP3 was your backup plan?

Not sure if serious.....

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Originally Posted by NOH2313

The argument can be made that his statistics/inefficient play is a reflection of playing on a lottery bound team though.

After all, Milwaukee has never had a legitimate secondary option for Jennings until they traded for Ellis.

(Bogut was always hurt/banged up).

Just playing devil's advocate.

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Bucks weren't too far removed from the playoffs when they had that playoff season. In 09 under Skiles. Jennings showed restraint and had a good pg, but he let his team play fall apart to ensure he can get his big contract when his time comes. We don't need another egotistical player who sends mixed signals about his happiness here. Why even worry about a scoring point, when Rivers will eventually develop into that?

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Originally Posted by MeSoHornets504

Bucks weren't too far removed from the playoffs when they had that playoff season. In 09 under Skiles. Jennings showed restraint and had a good pg, but he let his team play fall apart to ensure he can get his big contract when his time comes. We don't need another egotistical player who sends mixed signals about his happiness here. Why even worry about a scoring point, when Rivers will eventually develop into that?

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Agree completely.

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Personally, I think we should continue to focus on developing Rivers. Our money could be better served addressing our wing depth and possibly big man rotation.

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Jeff Teague would be interesting if we're focused on upgrading SF more than anything else. Teague/Vasquez would be serviceable considering the PGs of past champions. I think Teague would play well with our players, but I don't think Atlanta lets him go unless we overpay him (which I wouldn't advise).

I have a feeling that Dell might use our cap space in a different manner than just signing free agents. With the new tax penalties, some teams might give up an asset such as a pick or prospect just to take on a bad contract. That's how OKC got Ibaka. They took on Kurt Thomas and in return got a pick the next year, which turned into Ibaka.

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Agree completely.

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After watching tonight, I see no reason why Rivers can't become a player comparable to Tony Parker, they practically look the same out there. That connection never hit me before.

My guard of choice is Mike Conley. Sucks Memphis was smart and realized him to be such an underrated player, because if he would have been let loose this FA period, he would be my main target at PG.

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After watching tonight, I see no reason why Rivers can't become a player comparable to Tony Parker, they practically look the same out there. That connection never hit me before.

My guard of choice is Mike Conley. Sucks Memphis was smart and realized him to be such an underrated player, because if he would have been let loose this FA period, he would be my main target at PG.

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It's funny because both Dell and Monty kept throwing out Tony Parker as a good comparison. Hopefully, Rivers will be able to hit the 3 with more regularity that Parker though...

Monty has compared Rivers to Parker before. Rivers is going to have to develop that deadly floater that Parker has. That shot is pretty much unstoppable for Parker. I'm still disappointed that Rivers is still keeping his head down when he drives to the basket. He needs to get his head up earlier so he can get a good look at the basket. When he keeps his head down, he doesn't have good vision of the basket to make the shot, aware of the number of defenders waiting for him, and his #1 priority is usually seeking contact. He's asking for an injury playing that way.

Look at Parker in this video, you notice that he always keeps his head up and is aware of his surroundings. He's never seeking contact and is always looking to avoid it. He uses his deadly floater and has great range on it from 10ft in. Rivers desperately needs this shot in his repertoire. Hopefully, he'll develop a reliable shot as he can get into the paint at a very good rate.

At 31 years old and about 12 years in the league playing the position, I'd say he'd BETTER NOT have his head down. Rivers has a lot to learn.

I'm almost to the point where I feel this thread might be about the wrong guard position....

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Originally Posted by MeSoHornets504

Jennings will never want to play here, and every person in our fan base would hate him. He is incredibly delusional about his own abilities, and I believe is on the record saying a player of his talent shouldn't have to play on Milwuakee. No way Monty would want to sign him.

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That sounds like a quote, where did you get it? I think it all depends on Eric Gordon, if we move him, i think we make a run hard at Jennings and with the talent we're putting together and the lack of teams that could pay him anything at all or has a need for a PG could make it an easy sell.

Austin Rivers ends up starting at his natural SG position.

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It's funny because both Dell and Monty kept throwing out Tony Parker as a good comparison. Hopefully, Rivers will be able to hit the 3 with more regularity that Parker though...

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Let's worry about any jump shot first.

Just one thing I want people to keep in mind about Jennings is how much they "know"

Do you really know he has a bad attitude? Is there really evidence out there that he is large market or bust? Have you watched dozens of Bucks games over the past few years and read multiple unbiased articles or are we all going off of a generalization based on one or two things we heard somewhere or read in one article?

I remember his Italian coach praising him for being so mature for his age. I have read multiple articles in which he said he just wanted to win and the size of the market has nothing to do with it. And even if he is some of what the whispers say, is that a deal breaker? I have seen Stephen Jackson labeled as a terror in Charlotte, but become the ultimate team player in San Antonio. Guys dont want to play the right way on crappy teams that are going nowhere, but they get their act together when they could be a part of something great.

Just keep in mind that we hate when our players are painted with such a thin brush nationally (Jason Smith is a thug, for instance). Let's not do that with another guy- we are better than that.

When it comes to Jennings, what do you really "know"?

And according to Bucks people in our TrueHoop Network, Jennings final counter to Bucks was 4 years and 39 million and they turned him down, want to keep options open. So this myth that he only wants to play in a small market is just that, a myth.

Once they start off season poorly, they will be looking to move him and I would do it if that was his asking price

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And according to Bucks people in our TrueHoop Network, Jennings final counter to Bucks was 4 years and 39 million and they turned him down, want to keep options open. So this myth that he only wants to play in a small market is just that, a myth.

Once they start off season poorly, they will be looking to move him and I would do it if that was his asking price

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They turned down 4 yrs/39m?!

I would have taken that contract in a heartbeat if I was Milwaukee.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Just one thing I want people to keep in mind about Jennings is how much they "know"

Do you really know he has a bad attitude? Is there really evidence out there that he is large market or bust? Have you watched dozens of Bucks games over the past few years and read multiple unbiased articles or are we all going off of a generalization based on one or two things we heard somewhere or read in one article?

I remember his Italian coach praising him for being so mature for his age. I have read multiple articles in which he said he just wanted to win and the size of the market has nothing to do with it. And even if he is some of what the whispers say, is that a deal breaker? I have seen Stephen Jackson labeled as a terror in Charlotte, but become the ultimate team player in San Antonio. Guys dont want to play the right way on crappy teams that are going nowhere, but they get their act together when they could be a part of something great.

Just keep in mind that we hate when our players are painted with such a thin brush nationally (Jason Smith is a thug, for instance). Let's not do that with another guy- we are better than that.

When it comes to Jennings, what do you really "know"?

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Cosign EVERY WORD of this post....

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Just one thing I want people to keep in mind about Jennings is how much they "know"

Do you really know he has a bad attitude? Is there really evidence out there that he is large market or bust? Have you watched dozens of Bucks games over the past few years and read multiple unbiased articles or are we all going off of a generalization based on one or two things we heard somewhere or read in one article?

I remember his Italian coach praising him for being so mature for his age. I have read multiple articles in which he said he just wanted to win and the size of the market has nothing to do with it. And even if he is some of what the whispers say, is that a deal breaker? I have seen Stephen Jackson labeled as a terror in Charlotte, but become the ultimate team player in San Antonio. Guys dont want to play the right way on crappy teams that are going nowhere, but they get their act together when they could be a part of something great.

Just keep in mind that we hate when our players are painted with such a thin brush nationally (Jason Smith is a thug, for instance). Let's not do that with another guy- we are better than that.

When it comes to Jennings, what do you really "know"?

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http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=7560912

This is where the large market hysteria came from.

A direct quote of his.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Just one thing I want people to keep in mind about Jennings is how much they "know"

Do you really know he has a bad attitude? Is there really evidence out there that he is large market or bust? Have you watched dozens of Bucks games over the past few years and read multiple unbiased articles or are we all going off of a generalization based on one or two things we heard somewhere or read in one article?

I remember his Italian coach praising him for being so mature for his age. I have read multiple articles in which he said he just wanted to win and the size of the market has nothing to do with it. And even if he is some of what the whispers say, is that a deal breaker? I have seen Stephen Jackson labeled as a terror in Charlotte, but become the ultimate team player in San Antonio. Guys dont want to play the right way on crappy teams that are going nowhere, but they get their act together when they could be a part of something great.

Just keep in mind that we hate when our players are painted with such a thin brush nationally (Jason Smith is a thug, for instance). Let's not do that with another guy- we are better than that.

When it comes to Jennings, what do you really "know"?

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I hate to compare it to this, but it's in a much lesser degree. When I play ball and i have guys on my team and we're winning I wont complain about bad shots, ball hogging etc. I'll grind, play D, pass, and shoot when wide open. When My team is losing and people are doing stupid crap, thats when i get pissed and say something. I imagine it's much like this in the NBA, except i pay to play, and they get paid (a lot) to play lol.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Just one thing I want people to keep in mind about Jennings is how much they "know"

Do you really know he has a bad attitude? Is there really evidence out there that he is large market or bust? Have you watched dozens of Bucks games over the past few years and read multiple unbiased articles or are we all going off of a generalization based on one or two things we heard somewhere or read in one article?

I remember his Italian coach praising him for being so mature for his age. I have read multiple articles in which he said he just wanted to win and the size of the market has nothing to do with it. And even if he is some of what the whispers say, is that a deal breaker? I have seen Stephen Jackson labeled as a terror in Charlotte, but become the ultimate team player in San Antonio. Guys dont want to play the right way on crappy teams that are going nowhere, but they get their act together when they could be a part of something great.

Just keep in mind that we hate when our players are painted with such a thin brush nationally (Jason Smith is a thug, for instance). Let's not do that with another guy- we are better than that.

When it comes to Jennings, what do you really "know"?

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I couldn't agree more.

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http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=7560912

This is where the large market hysteria came from.

A direct quote of his.

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And i think that when that questioned was asked, it was right in the middle of all the stars teaming up in those markets. It was a total set up question, there was no reason to ask him in the first place, he had rest of that season and 2 years after that left to play before he was unrestricted.

He didn't come out and just say he wanted to play in a big market, the question was specific and he was asked about it.

Sorry, but when I hear quotes like this:

"When you start seeing other players like Dwight Howard or CP3, you start thinking'' and "It's just that I'm understanding the business of basketball now", it seems pretty clear that large-market teams were something that he was interested in joining and something he considered regardless of whether he was asked a direct question or not.

Just my two cents. Take it for what you will.

Regardless, I don't want him on our team anyways.

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Originally Posted by NOH2313

Sorry, but when I hear quotes like this:

"When you start seeing other players like Dwight Howard or CP3, you start thinking'' and "It's just that I'm understanding the business of basketball now", it seems pretty clear that large-market teams were something that he was interested in joining and something he considered regardless of whether he was asked a direct question or not.

Just my two cents. Take it for what you will.

Regardless, I don't want him on our team anyways.

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And THAT is what you "KNOW" right? :hihi:

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And THAT is what you "KNOW" right? :hihi:

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Hahaha, yup. I can say with complete certainty that I do not want him rocking a teal jersey.

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Originally Posted by NOH2313

Sorry, but when I hear quotes like this:

"When you start seeing other players like Dwight Howard or CP3, you start thinking'' and "It's just that I'm understanding the business of basketball now", it seems pretty clear that large-market teams were something that he was interested in joining and something he considered regardless of whether he was asked a direct question or not.



Just my two cents. Take it for what you will.

Regardless, I don't want him on our team anyways.

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See, I read that as: The players who effect winning go to larger markets, perhaps that is where I have to go in order to get a ring.

Either way, I don't think he is by any means a locker room cancer, nor is he a guy who will demand a trade, as evidenced by his willingness to re-sign w/ Milwaukee.

Now if people don't like his game, that I understand. The rest is just heresay IMO

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See, I read that as: The players who effect winning go to larger markets, perhaps that is where I have to go in order to get a ring.

Either way, I don't think he is by any means a locker room cancer, nor is he a guy who will demand a trade, as evidenced by his willingness to re-sign w/ Milwaukee.

Now if people don't like his game, that I understand. The rest is just heresay IMO

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Either way, Jennings would be expressing a preference for larger-market teams.

But as you pointed out, his willingness to resign with Milwaukee is encouraging for smaller-market teams looking to add him.

I wasn't aware of the contract negotiations that took place between Milwaukee and Jennings until you bought up the TrueHoop scoop.

I think it would just be more wise to go after Iggy or Jefferson and let Rivers develop for 1-2 more years.