Trey Burke

I want to talk about this kid for a second. He is a PG, 6' 190lbs. I really want the horn...ehhhh Pelicans to draft him. Either let Vasquez come off the bench or trade him for anything come this offseason. Burke reminds me so much of Chris Paul; and pairing him with Davis, Rivers and Ryno as our core is just flat out exciting. I have no idea where he will go or what kind of pick we will end up with but he is at the top of my board. Want some of you're opinions.


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Here are some of his highlights from last year:

http://youtu.be/XAtGlbxvuxM

I shared my thoughts on another thread, but I see only 2 PG's who really intrigue me in the draft.....Burke and McCollum....if we draft based on our current record, I'm guessing we would go in a different direction...but, the fact remains that I really like him too....

You can still catch the second half of the Syracuse game, on right now (ESPN3/ESPN Full Court). Michael Carter-Williams has a chance to be the top PG taken in this years draft. Very Jalen Rose-esque. Leading the NCAA in assists, standing 6'6"

As for Burke, most projections have him going in the 20's because of his size and his tendency to settle for the three at times. But I agree, he is an interesting prospect worth watching if the Hornets get a 2nd pick in this years draft

looking at the Michigan game I like what I see from him. If we can get a SF in free agency I would like to draft Burke

No way this guy is there in the 2nd MM

I think that you go Smart and Carter-Williams before Burke.

I have been driving the Burke bandwagon since last season.

When I look at the great point guards they all do 3 things.

1. Dictate to the defense with their ability and pace.
2. Keep their dribble.
3. Take care of the ball

Sounds simple, but only a select few do at the NBA level.

There are more than enough guys at/around 6'0 that are playing at a high level to believe it won't hold Burke's back. Hopefully we acquire another pick to get this kid. I've said it before I see a ton of CP3 in his game.

I think he is the best PG in this years draft and he has the potential to be the best overall this draft I think he's that good.

Burke's stats tonight:

27pts
8asst
5reb
3stl
0to
12-16 shooting (75%)

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBrow

No way this guy is there in the 2nd MM

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He said 2nd pick, not second rounder.

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Originally Posted by Soundwave

He said 2nd pick, not second rounder.

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Yeah my mistake I thought he meant 2nd rounder since I don't think we have one in this upcoming draft.

As the season goes on though if Burke keeps performing I think his stock will rise. I can see him going top 10.

Love him

You guys want AR25 at sg and ship Gordon out?

Very good compliment to however are backcourt will work. But unless we start winning alot of games I think he is a bit of a reach. At the moment I think Shabazz and Marcus Smart are the likely options

I think of AR being our James Harden type 6th man.

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Originally Posted by Hornets_fan_504

I think of AR being our James Harden type 6th man.

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I think as AR our Superstar

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Originally Posted by jdmcuc

You guys want AR25 at sg and ship Gordon out?

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If play on the level of what he did yesterday becomes the norm, I can get behind that. Especially if shipping Gordon out brings Brandon Jennings in.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

If play on the level of what he did yesterday becomes the norm, I can get behind that. Especially if shipping Gordon out brings Brandon Jennings in.

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A Jennings/Rivers backcourt gives me a headache..

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

A Jennings/Rivers backcourt gives me a headache..

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Rivers would probably still come off the bench, but even so. If he can be pretty effective (though not efficient) playing with Monta Ellis, I'm sure he could manage with Rivers.

he could be a great option but SF is a bigger hole and we need to see what Austin can do at PG first

This young man continues to impress. He has a CP3 feel to him. Smart, crafty, scrappy, and just has a passion against losing. If he's not taking in the top 5 picks he should end up as the steal of the draft.

No one in the media feels he's a great prospect. It looks like he's only considered a borderline lottery pick due to his lack of upside. Most still have McCollum ahead of Burke. I honestly don't know why people dislike him but he needs to have an amazing March and workouts in order to be a top 10 pick.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

No one in the media feels he's a great prospect. It looks like he's only considered a borderline lottery pick due to his lack of upside. Most still have McCollum ahead of Burke. I honestly don't know why people dislike him but he needs to have an amazing March and workouts in order to be a top 10 pick.

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It was the same for him coming out of high school. He was Mr. Basketball his Sr. year yet was ranked in the 70's and 80's by must scouting agencies. It one of the reason I like him as a player he plays with that chip on his shoulder.

I feel we could see the samething at the next level if he goes outside the lottery.

He's a very good athlete. Not sure why he's not gettin' more love. But I wouldn't mind selecting TB3.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

No one in the media feels he's a great prospect. It looks like he's only considered a borderline lottery pick due to his lack of upside. Most still have McCollum ahead of Burke. I honestly don't know why people dislike him but he needs to have an amazing March and workouts in order to be a top 10 pick.

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Not trying to say I know more than people who do this for a living but is the media always right? This kid is playing at a very high level on an undefeated team. Not to mention he is shooting a great % all around the court. Maybe it is a good thing a lot of people are knocking on him, hopefully he can fall in the draft and we trade for a later 1st and grab him????

The "media" is more projecting where these guys will go than what they think of them personally, and they get those projections from their conversations with scouts and GM's.

Burke can't possibly have a better season than Jameer Nelson had prior to when he was taken and Nelson went in the second half of the 1st round because of his size. With McCollum's injury, maybe Burke is the 2nd PG taken, but I still can't see a scenario where he goes top 10

I agree that it's not likely he'll go top 10, which to me is kind of foolish. He's essentially the same size Chris Paul was when he came out. While he may be short, he does have a pretty solid wingspan at 6'5, which should help him defensively.

I just don't see how someone like MCW is being ranked higher than Burke in almost all of the mock drafts I've seen. Sure, MCW has the size advantage (although they have the same wingspan), but Burke is a year younger, a better shooter, has a better PER and PPR, and has the better intangibles.

I'd take him over any other PG easily.

If we are in the 10-15 range and Burke is still on the board, I'm snatching him up and laughing at everyone who passed on him. He has special intangibles. Very reminiscent of Chris Paul. The guy hate to lose - even drills in practice, according to his HC.

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If we are in the 10-15 range and Burke is still on the board, I'm snatching him up and laughing at everyone who passed on him. He has special intangibles. Very reminiscent of Chris Paul. The guy hate to lose - even drills in practice, according to his HC.

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Every piece of info I've found on him has intrigued me. I'll be watching Michigan very, very closely going forward.

"Originally Posted by jdmcuc
You guys want AR25 at sg and ship Gordon out?"

"If play on the level of what he did yesterday becomes the norm, I can get behind that. Especially if shipping Gordon out brings Brandon Jennings in."

With a line like this, sign me up for the get rid of Gordon and roll with Rivers future back court.

A. Rivers 18:09 1-5 0-2 0-0 +8 1 0 1 2 0 1 0 0 1 2

I can't wait for the 3 year time frame, that fans have given Rivers, to be over so that we can move on. Rivers is awful and only people on Hornetsreport.com think otherwise. If we get rid of Gordon, we better have a better plan than Rivers.

Can everyone get off the Rivers train for now, we have given him enough bloody time to develop and his only getting worse and less confident every game.. the duds awful now and you cannot have him as our future back court for now.

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Can everyone get off the Rivers train for now, we have given him enough bloody time to develop and his only getting worse and less confident every game.. the duds awful now and you cannot have him as our future back court for now.

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Think I'm missing some key context here...


Not to mention you're making no sense. He can't be our future backcourt for now? The future and now are complete opposites. Are you saying we should get rid of him then reacquire him later or something?

it says that people are considering atm that austin rivers is the future for our back court, obviously he aint now because clearly Eric Gordon is in his place.

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Originally Posted by Pantazis76

it says that people are considering atm that austin rivers is the future for our back court, obviously he aint now because clearly Eric Gordon is in his place.

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I don't think you quite understand how developing a rookie works. Anyway this is completely off topic.

Soooo... a rookie has 2 months to develop or else he's garbage? I get it now.

smdh

If the guy was lazy and didn't TRY to get better, then yeah he might have to go. But the kid has a ridiculous work ethic, and he's working hard, so I'm not ready to give up on the dude after 2 months.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBrow

I don't think you quite understand how developing a rookie works. Anyway this is completely off topic.

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Wait, you mean you mean you don't give up on him in the first half of a season after knowing he'd be project.

Back to Burke....

Again, my only concern is size, which is of particular concern for this team because Gordon is one of the smallest SG's in the league. I love the way Vasquez has been helping out on the boards lately and he can easily switch onto a 2 when Gordon is covering the point.

If Burke and Gordon are your starting guards, what else do you have to put on this team to negate that glaring size problem in the back court?

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Back to Burke....

Again, my only concern is size, which is of particular concern for this team because Gordon is one of the smallest SG's in the league. I love the way Vasquez has been helping out on the boards lately and he can easily switch onto a 2 when Gordon is covering the point.

If Burke and Gordon are your starting guards, what else do you have to put on this team to negate that glaring size problem in the back court?

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Vasquez?

Why not go small with Greivis at the 3? May get killed on the boards, but the passing would be insane.

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Originally Posted by donato

Why not go small with Greivis at the 3? May get killed on the boards, but the passing would be insane.

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Because Vasquez would get dominated by other teams 3's

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBrow

Because Vasquez would get dominated by other teams 3's

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Vasquez has spent time at the 3 this year, and I found those sets to be extremely profitable for the team. I think we ran a Roberts, Rivers, and Vasquez lineup for a 2-5 minute spurt a couple game back. Then again there should be no reason for Vasquez at the 3 if Aminu would just play with energy.

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Back to Burke....

Again, my only concern is size, which is of particular concern for this team because Gordon is one of the smallest SG's in the league. I love the way Vasquez has been helping out on the boards lately and he can easily switch onto a 2 when Gordon is covering the point.

If Burke and Gordon are your starting guards, what else do you have to put on this team to negate that glaring size problem in the back court?

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Davis and an Aminu that continues playing similar to how he did in the last game are going to be excellent rebounders going forward. I think we could manage. Besides, though Burke is 6' he's got a 6'5" wingspan with what looks like a decent vert. Don't have to be 6'6" to be a decent rebounder. Most of the trick is just wanting to.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Davis and an Aminu that continues playing similar to how he did in the last game are going to be excellent rebounders going forward. I think we could manage. Besides, though Burke is 6' he's got a 6'5" wingspan with what looks like a decent vert. Don't have to be 6'6" to be a decent rebounder. Most of the trick is just wanting to.

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I'm not a fan of two small guards, but I am on the side that thinks we should trade Gordon.

However if those are the two best options at the 1 and 2 spots you pull the trigger and worry about their size issue later.