Is this hypothetical AD trade worth considering?

Just about any offer for Anthony Davis is going to be insulting and not worth listening to.

How about this though? The imaginary everything-in offer from Boston (only if the Celtics luck into the #1 pick):


Brooklyn's pick. #1 in the draft. Fultz or other.
2018 Brooklyn pick. Unprotected. Should be somewhere from 1-5.
Jaylen Brown.
2019 or beyond Memphis pick.
Crowder, Smart, or Bradley (pick one).
Fillers.

If the Celtics call with this offer does New Orleans:

a) hang up the phone immediately.
b) says, "thank you that's a good offer but we're not trading AD."
c) asks for even more.
d) accepts the offer.

So that's 3 first round picks, 3rd pick from 2016 draft + 2 rotation players on a very good East Conference team. I'm not sure Celtics would do it.

EDIT: I'm 90% sure Celtics wouldn't do it.

Pass. Jaylen Brown has been dreadful. Brooklyn picks are nice, but they're still a crap shoot. Need something tangible, and Brown isn't even close.

Jaylen Brown's book hasn't even started to be written. I remember a lot of things people are saying about him, they were saying it about DeMarr DeRozan. But you don't trade Anthony Davis until we have no choice.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Jaylen Brown's book hasn't even started to be written. I remember a lot of things people are saying about him, they were saying it about DeMarr DeRozan. But you don't trade Anthony Davis until we have no choice.

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Exactly, but you especially don't trade him for a complete wild card like Brown. Does he have potential? Sure. He was drafted on potential, but that's not enough for an Anthony Davis.

Would you do this?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zun7mh6

Ok more logical,

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h9okx5s

+3 wins on the machine!

Davis is not Jordan or Lebron I hate to tell you I think I would do it . Get them to throw in Hortford too .


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There's no trade involving AD worth considering

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Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans

There's no trade involving AD worth considering

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But what if he wants out? You just going to let him walk when his contract expires in a couple of years?

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Jaylen Brown's book hasn't even started to be written. I remember a lot of things people are saying about him, they were saying it about DeMarr DeRozan. But you don't trade Anthony Davis until we have no choice.

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this and hang up the phone

The only trades worth considering for AD right now would be Embiid, Porzingis, or Towns plus more. And none of those teams would consider doing that.

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Originally Posted by Champ

But what if he wants out? You just going to let him walk when his contract expires in a couple of years?

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We can cross that bridge when we get to it. Right now, our focuses should be on building a contender around our generational talent.

I don't think any player is "untradable" but if there was such category for me Davis doesn't make it in. Atleast not yet. That's guys you expect to be in the playoffs simply because he's on the team. That's Curry, Harden, Westbrook, James, Durant, Leonard. Davis isn't in that class not yet anyways so he tradable for the right price.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I don't think any player is "untradable" but if there was such category for me Davis doesn't make it in. Atleast not yet. That's guys you expect to be in the playoffs simply because he's on the team. That's Curry, Harden, Westbrook, James, Durant, Leonard. Davis isn't in that class not yet anyways so he tradable for the right price.

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Funny because Westbrook couldn't carry his team to the playoffs over ADs team.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I don't think any player is "untradable" but if there was such category for me Davis doesn't make it in. Atleast not yet. That's guys you expect to be in the playoffs simply because he's on the team. That's Curry, Harden, Westbrook, James, Durant, Leonard. Davis isn't in that class not yet anyways so he tradable for the right price.

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LoL!!

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If it was a last resort and a trade was inevitable... Yes I would consider this trade. There would be a few other packages from teams like Lakers I would like but with the picks the Celtics have they no doubt get us to answer the phone. If we can draft well this year then I'm confident this team will either be great with AD or without. If a time comes to where we know he won't stay and we have Buddy along with a good pick this year then we can make this team very competitive with a big haul. I don't think this is anything anyone needs to worry about for a while. I mean a while because IMO AD is going to sign another deal here. Might have some promises and stipulations in his new contract but we will get it done.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Funny because Westbrook couldn't carry his team to the playoffs over ADs team.

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Not funny just a rare exception. Those things happens. Kobe missed the playoffs one year. Either way imo Davis isn't on Westbrook tier.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

LoL!!

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Not sure what's funny about the post.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Not funny just a rare exception. Those things happens. Kobe missed the playoffs one year. Either way imo Davis isn't on Westbrook tier.

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With your long history of hating on AD that doesn't shock me in the least.

How many years did it take before you admitted AD was better than Drummond?

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

With your long history of hating on AD that doesn't shock me in the least.

How many years did it take before you admitted AD was better than Drummond?

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Some of you really need to grow up. It's like children around here. But I guess this is the internet and that's how grown individuals are supposed to act sadly.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Some of you really need to grow up. It's like children around here. But I guess this is the internet and that's how grown individuals are supposed to act sadly.

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Yes, I agree you should. It's time to leave the AD hate train and give him some credit. Even after pointing out by your own standards, AD keeping Westbrook out of the playoffs while taking his team to it, you still put Westbrook in a higher tier than AD. You even put a player like Leonard in the tier ABOVE AD, even though he has NEVER put up numbers on AD's level.

Your hatred of AD is well documented and goes back years. It's time to come off it and give him his due.

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Originally Posted by Nola3

The only trades worth considering for AD right now would be Embiid, Porzingis, or Towns plus more. And none of those teams would consider doing that.

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Add Giannis to that list.

You could always trade him for Harrison Barnes. LOL.

I wrote a bit on how the new CBA tilts the advantage toward the #Pelicans (to the tune of $85M) on AD last month.https://t.co/s8D0cloYXA

— David Fisher (@DavidFisherTBW) January 10, 2017

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Yes, I agree you should. It's time to leave the AD hate train and give him some credit. Even after pointing out by your own standards, AD keeping Westbrook out of the playoffs while taking his team to it, you still put Westbrook in a higher tier than AD. You even put a player like Leonard in the tier ABOVE AD, even though he has NEVER put up numbers on AD's level.

Your hatred of AD is well documented and goes back years. It's time to come off it and give him his due.

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What hate train? Because I don't put him up there with Kawhi Leonard that's hate. I didn't think Davis would be great. He's a great player but there's levels. You can't get pass the fact that I didn't rank him highly enough leaving UK and you feel I can't be critical because of it. Most people on this board has come to terms with my initial thoughts of Davis and aren't holding on to something from almost 6 years ago like healthy humans. But there are some of you thst are choosing to be petty over a missed evaluation. And look for every opportunity to express there butt hurtness.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

What hate train? Because I don't put him up there with Kawhi Leonard that's hate. I didn't think Davis would be great. He's a great player but there's levels. You can't get pass the fact that I didn't rank him highly enough leaving UK and you feel I can't be critical because of it. Most people on this board has come to terms with my initial thoughts of Davis and aren't holding on to something from almost 6 years ago like healthy humans. But there are some of you thst are choosing to be petty over a missed evaluation. And look for every opportunity to express there butt hurtness.

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I wouldn't care how you felt years ago if you showed any sign that you've changed. Instead you say he's not as good as a player who has never achieved the same level of numbers as AD. It's not as bad as Drummond but saying Leonard belongs to a no trade tier but AD doesn't is still pretty darn bad.

Even after you've been proven grossly wrong on AD you STILL won't give him his due. That's the issue I have, not what you thought years ago. It's just the same pattern with you.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I wouldn't care how you felt years ago if you showed any sign that you've changed. Instead you say he's not as good as a player who has never achieved the same level of numbers as AD. It's not as bad as Drummond but saying Leonard belongs to a no trade tier but AD doesn't is still pretty darn bad.

Even after you've been proven grossly wrong on AD you STILL won't give him his due. That's the issue I have, not what you thought years ago. It's just the same pattern with you.

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Stats aren't the end all be all for me like it maybe is for you. I've been critical of plenty of players with monster stats and praising of players with solid stats. The game IMO is far too situational to say player X has more stats therefore they are the better player.

As far as giving Davis his "due" I have no idea where you've been the past few years. Especially the start of this season when I mentioned that he showed me all the ability to do the things that made me think he couldn't be a superstar. And to my point you won't comment on that you'll still run to the pointless Davis vs Drummond debate, or comment on how I have some illogical ill feeling against Davis.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Stats aren't the end all be all for me like it maybe is for you. I've been critical of plenty of players with monster stats and praising of players with solid stats. The game IMO is far too situational to say player X has more stats therefore they are the better player.

As far as giving Davis his "due" I have no idea where you've been the past few years. Especially the start of this season when I mentioned that he showed me all the ability to do the things that made me think he couldn't be a superstar. And to my point you won't comment on that you'll still run to the pointless Davis vs Drummond debate, or comment on how I have some illogical ill feeling against Davis.

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This is really simple. Do you believe Leonard is untradeable but AD isn't?

LoL almost a waste of time to even argue with him. Constantly throw shade no matter how little to somehow discredit what AD is doing. You didn't just make a prediction he would be great you were so wrong and don't believe he should even be picked with the first few picks. Using playoffs to as why basically in this case is your only way to negatively grade him is just ridiculously. I mean maybe we should just go out and say Iguodala is better then Durant because he won't a championship. Like Mythrol said AD already took his team to the playoffs on his back. Single handed dominated the Warriors. Put up one of the historically great seasons in NBA history. I mean it's hard to even take you seriously now and you wonder why a few of us bring up your prediction years ago. It's because of stuff like this. Oh and let's also forget AD is only 23 years old lol. Things like that should be accounted for when considering someone untradeable.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

This is really simple. Do you believe Leonard is untradeable but AD isn't?

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This is pointless to ask as I already answered this question. You're problem is you seem to think your opinion is the authority on the matter. And because mines differ it must be hate against Davis. Leonard is probably the best defender in the league and the main offensive threat for a top 3 team. It's not even a discussion for me. I'd take Leonard over Curry. So I guess I hate Steph Curry as well. Only players better than Kawhi to me is James and Durant.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Only players better than Kawhi to me is James and Durant.

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Hahahahah aha

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Some of you really need to grow up. It's like children around here. But I guess this is the internet and that's how grown individuals are supposed to act sadly.

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Please don't ever leave man. I love you bro! And I actually agree with you.

When was the last time a Power forward carried a team to the championship? And Duncan is eliminated just from the simple fact that Poplovich is a cheat code.

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Stats aren't the end all be all for me like it maybe is for you. I've been critical of plenty of players with monster stats and praising of players with solid stats. The game IMO is far too situational to say player X has more stats therefore they are the better player.

As far as giving Davis his "due" I have no idea where you've been the past few years. Especially the start of this season when I mentioned that he showed me all the ability to do the things that made me think he couldn't be a superstar. And to my point you won't comment on that you'll still run to the pointless Davis vs Drummond debate, or comment on how I have some illogical ill feeling against Davis.

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100+ I agree with this full post. I love AD, but people can fall in love with the stat line too much. At the end of the day, who contribute more win shares for their team, AD or Harden?

Btw I disagree with you on the Leonard >AD argument, I think Leonard is close, but not super duper star level. Nor do I think AD is a super duper star either. His playing style simply cannot carry a team year end and year out, as well as Leonard.

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When was the last time a Power forward carried a team to the championship? And Duncan is eliminated just from the simple fact that Poplovich is a cheat code.

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Duncan, Dirk, Lebron couldn't do it without a big, Kobe couldn't do it without a big, KG. . .

Actually, going back and looking at previous champions it looks like the last team to win without a dominant big would be Jordan or maybe you could make a case for Detroit.

The simple fact is any team needs more than one good player NO MATTER the position. Trying to say AD isn't in the highest tier of players because he is a big is absolute BS.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Stats aren't the end all be all for me like it maybe is for you. I've been critical of plenty of players with monster stats and praising of players with solid stats. The game IMO is far too situational to say player X has more stats therefore they are the better player.

As far as giving Davis his "due" I have no idea where you've been the past few years. Especially the start of this season when I mentioned that he showed me all the ability to do the things that made me think he couldn't be a superstar. And to my point you won't comment on that you'll still run to the pointless Davis vs Drummond debate, or comment on how I have some illogical ill feeling against Davis.

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All he did was show an "ability" to do the things that made you think he couldn't be a superstar? Lol cmon man that's a backhanded compliment. Why can't you just say he is a superstar? Because he couldn't take a team full of d-league players to the playoffs in the West last season while missing a good portion himself? I mean you are entitled to your opinion, but I just feel like every GM and sports writer disagrees with you. And I don't understand the hate towards our franchise player.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I don't think any player is "untradable" but if there was such category for me Davis doesn't make it in. Atleast not yet. That's guys you expect to be in the playoffs simply because he's on the team. That's Curry, Harden, Westbrook, James, Durant, Leonard. Davis isn't in that class not yet anyways so he tradable for the right price.

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Lmao at thinking Curry would carry ******** team to playoffs. Not that type of player at all. I don't think Kawhi would either. Others you mentioned yeah sure, especially LeBron, Westbrook and Harden.

Superstar players like AD is hardest thing to get in the NBA.

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Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans

All he did was show an "ability" to do the things that made you think he couldn't be a superstar? Lol cmon man that's a backhanded compliment. Why can't you just say he is a superstar? Because he couldn't take a team full of d-league players to the playoffs in the West last season while missing a good portion himself? I mean you are entitled to your opinion, but I just feel like every GM and sports writer disagrees with you. And I don't understand the hate towards our franchise player.

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How is this a backhanded compliment? My biggest gripe against Davis for years was that he never showed me that superstar ability. Saying that he showed me that skill level is the greatest compliment I can give a player that's still within the age you'd expect them to get better.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

How is this a backhanded compliment? My biggest gripe against Davis for years was that he never showed me that superstar ability. Saying that he showed me that skill level is the greatest compliment I can give a player that's still within the age you'd expect them to get better.

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You actually would rather Drummond over Davis? Wow! Hey I'll give you some credit for sticking to to your guns at least.

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Originally Posted by Champ

You actually would rather Drummond over Davis? Wow! Hey I'll give you some credit for sticking to to your guns at least.

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Stop. You know Throne doesn't still feel that way. Why do ppl gotta continue to break his balls, by bringing this up? It's like the lowest form of discourse possible, yet some just love to pull that card.

Man, I am tempted to say Greek Freek and Jabari for AD and this years first.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Not funny just a rare exception. Those things happens. Kobe missed the playoffs one year. Either way imo Davis isn't on Westbrook tier.

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He's above it.

Westbrook is a great player in isolation, but he has shown that he doesn't get along ideally with others or play well in a team situation. He reminds more and more of Iverson everyday. Let him play his type of ball and you can be a playoff team if you give him a bunch of above average parts, but he will struggle to ever be more then that because he only accepts playing his way.

You put Davis on the Spurs and trade Leonard to the Pelicans? I think the Pelicans don't look that much better, if not worse then right now.

The only reason it might work better is because Leonard would cover up our biggest hole and we have some decent guys behind Davis to make things work. But put Davis on the Spurs? In Pop's system? Have him be built around for several years? You are talking multiple championships and a new dynasty IMO. You underestimate just how good Pop is at optimizing players and developing them. Its like a debate I got in about a year ago about Paul George vs Kawhi Leonard. Like if you replaced Kawhi with Paul George, would the Spurs get any worse or get better?

Whoever you choose, you still have to come away acknowledging that Paul George on the Spurs, instead of the rough Indy situation, would elevate his output. Which just helps expose that we need to keep in mind surrounding circumstances for players as well.

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Originally Posted by Champ

You actually would rather Drummond over Davis? Wow! Hey I'll give you some credit for sticking to to your guns at least.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

This is pointless to ask as I already answered this question. You're problem is you seem to think your opinion is the authority on the matter. And because mines differ it must be hate against Davis. Leonard is probably the best defender in the league and the main offensive threat for a top 3 team. It's not even a discussion for me. I'd take Leonard over Curry. So I guess I hate Steph Curry as well. Only players better than Kawhi to me is James and Durant.

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I think I get why you say this, and it's been touched on by a number of people already. I think the difference is that all these other players have usage rates close to point guard, so they can impact the game in terms of creating for others, thus elevating their game. AD doesn't seem to get that opportunity, or he isn't quite able to do that yet, and in addition is lacking in high iq players to get him the ball where he likes it to goto work.

On defense, again AD is not marking players on the wing or in the back court where the most deadly offensive players are, he's usually the last line of defense. He does that very well, but again hard to play lock down defense on the best offensive players that way.

The last guy to lead a team at AD's position is Duncan and probably Garnett. Duncan always had a hall of famer with him whether it was Robinson or TP and Manu. Garnett was in and out of the playoffs depending on his roster during that season.

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Originally Posted by Tin_Food

I think I get why you say this, and it's been touched on by a number of people already. I think the difference is that all these other players have usage rates close to point guard, so they can impact the game in terms of creating for others, thus elevating their game. AD doesn't seem to get that opportunity, or he isn't quite able to do that yet, and in addition is lacking in high iq players to get him the ball where he likes it to goto work.

On defense, again AD is not marking players on the wing or in the back court where the most deadly offensive players are, he's usually the last line of defense. He does that very well, but again hard to play lock down defense on the best offensive players that way.

The last guy to lead a team at AD's position is Duncan and probably Garnett. Duncan always had a hall of famer with him whether it was Robinson or TP and Manu. Garnett was in and out of the playoffs depending on his roster during that season.

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You could probably add Dirk Nowitzki to this group also. But I get what you're saying. Bottom line AD needs a legit running mate.

Yeah, I mean just look at James Harden. Last year he had Dwight Howard, Ariza and a decent set of role players. Arguably better then anything Davis has had in his career and Harden barely made the playoffs.