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Cousins is suspended indefinitely from the Kings, should we?
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12-22-2012, 03:01 PMPelicans_fan_504Cousins is suspended indefinitely from the Kings, should we?
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12-22-2012, 03:10 PMnolaslim213
I posted this in another thread, 3-way trade, gives us both Cousins and Bledsoe. Sacramento also gets our 1st round pick, top-7 protected.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=d7cpnor -
12-22-2012, 03:15 PMPelsFan2313Why does Sacramento make this deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by nolaslim213
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12-22-2012, 03:22 PMnolaslim213Firstly, they are desperate to get rid of Cousins. I think this was the last straw, and Smart was the only guy in that franchise that defended Cousins, and even he said he has some decisions to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOH2313
Also, they get a lot of quality depth/locker room guys in this trade, plus a 1st round pick. Butler starts at SF, Jason Smith starts at PF, and Vasquez is either a starter or a 6th man for them. Turiaf gives them cheap depth at Center and helps them get through this season.
Cousins' value is at an all-time low, so they won't get what he's worth. This is a good offer, IMO. -
12-22-2012, 03:22 PMMr. West
They wouldn't. He's probably going to say that they have no choice and should take whatever they can, which is true to an extent. But they arnt that desperate and he's under contract so they will get better offers than that.
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12-22-2012, 03:23 PMEman5805
Also, nothing wrong with creating a separate thread for this. This is involves actual news. I mean it's not like we have a massive flood of the same topics going on. Just different threads for acquiring different players.
Anywho. Has there EVER been a trade suggestion that everyone went 'What a brilliant move. I never even thought of it. I hope we do this!'? -
12-22-2012, 03:24 PMnolaslim213You really think other teams are going to give up top dollar for Cousins? There is no chance. I think Smith and Vasquez are long-term glue guys for them, Butler starts and is a nice expiring next year as a trade asset, and they get a 1st round pick from a horrible team. That is good value, considering their situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. West
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12-22-2012, 03:27 PMMr. WestNot top dollars, just more than our scraps.Quote:
Originally Posted by nolaslim213
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12-22-2012, 03:27 PMnolaslim213I suggested Kaman and Ariza for Lewis and something else (can't remember), and everyone called me a moron and how Washington would never do that. Look what happened. Kaman actually had way more value than Okafor, and they still made the deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eman5805
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12-22-2012, 03:29 PMnolaslim213Jason Smith and Vasquez are elite bench players, and they are both young and on great contracts. Our 1st round pick is worth a lot, so I don't see how that is scraps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. West
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12-22-2012, 03:34 PMMr. WestNot trying to argue with you but I would disagree. Just go look at almost every other teams message board. They are talking about how they can get him too. I don't see them biting unless you completely unprotected the pick, but hey itd all opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by nolaslim213
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12-22-2012, 03:37 PMPelsFan2313I'd go as far as making our first rounder top-five protected.Quote:
Originally Posted by nolaslim213
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12-22-2012, 03:43 PMAD23nEG10
Bledsoe & Cousins together seems too much of a win for us... but I think Cousins is very available right now. That team needs defense, not offense, so something built around Lopez, Aminu (theyre lacking at the 3) and maybe Vazquez to a third team because they don't need any more PGs.
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12-22-2012, 03:44 PMEman5805That's kind of what I'm saying. Every suggested trade by a fan gets crapped on. But the trades that actually happen, I mean everyone said Orlando would make a killing when they unloaded Howard...didn't quite happen as planned did it?Quote:
Originally Posted by nolaslim213
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12-22-2012, 03:44 PMwhatthe986
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c74wgo4
Hornets get:
Evans
Bledsoe
Kings get:
Odom
Aminu
Hornets unprotected 2013 1st
Clippers get
Cousins
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12-22-2012, 03:47 PMPelsFan2313A- Say no to Evans.Quote:
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B- The last thing I want to see is the Clippers with a post presence.
C- Kings are getting almost nothing here. -
12-22-2012, 03:48 PMAD23nEG10Wouldn't it make more sense to swap Cousins to us and Evans to the Clippers? Willie Green starts at the 2 for LAC, they could use 'Reke and Cousins isn't a bench C and they aren't going to bench DeAndre. Other than that, it could actually workQuote:
Originally Posted by whatthe986
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12-22-2012, 03:49 PMAD23nEG10Wouldn't it make more sense to swap Cousins to us and Evans to the Clippers? Willie Green starts at the 2 for LAC, they could use 'Reke and Cousins isn't a bench C and they aren't going to bench DeAndre. Other than that, it could actually workQuote:
Originally Posted by whatthe986
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12-22-2012, 03:56 PMAD23nEG10
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cgb27ro
Hornets get:
Cousins
Bledsoe
Garcia
Kings get:
Lopez
Odom
Aminu
Hornets unprotected 2013 1st
Clippers get
Evans
Smith
Vasquez
Why do we do this?
We get two promising players to put together an amazing core of Bledsoe, Gordon, Davis, Anderson & Cousins. We get some much added low post toughness and an athletic guard
Why do the Kings do this?
They have a log jam at the guard and Cousins is hurting the team and is suspended. Give them a defensive presence at the 5, something they desperately need. They also get to dump Garcia's awful contract. Get a first round pick that will most likely be top 10 and Odom's expiring contract gives them lots of cap room.
Why do the Clippers do this?
Willie Green is not a great starting SG and Tyreke is a natural 2. Big upgrade and since Bledsoe doesn't play too much with CP3 on the team, GV is a veteran backup for a contender. Jason Smith is the most underrated part of all this, some much needed Frontcourt depth for a foul-prone duo of Jordan & Griffin -
12-22-2012, 03:59 PMPelsFan2313Did you mean to put Lopez over Aminu? Otherwise, the Kings' description makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by CP3nDX30
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12-22-2012, 04:03 PMrebelman
no the guy is too much of a headcase
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12-22-2012, 04:06 PMSnarlyCousins is suspended indefinitely from the Kings, should we?
It's pretty hard to get suspended in the Kings organization. I'd be very weary of the kid. I want him nowhere near Davis. He's one of those guys you'll love to have at 26-27 when he matures but hate to have to develop him at 22.
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12-22-2012, 04:08 PMAD23nEG10my bad, Odom Aminu & Lopez, i'll fix itQuote:
Originally Posted by NOH2313
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12-22-2012, 04:19 PMnolaslim213
I don't see LAC giving up Odom. He is their only depth, and they like him for some reason.
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12-22-2012, 04:22 PMEman5805I'm a little weary, but only because of the distraction aspect. I don't think for one iota of a second that Cousins would somehow influence Davis in some negative fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nola Hornet
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12-22-2012, 04:23 PMAD23nEG10That team is turning into what the Wizards were. No one's heard anything bad about Nick Young, Blatche or McGee since they left that poorly ran organizationQuote:
Originally Posted by Nola Hornet
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12-22-2012, 04:30 PMSnarlyCousins is suspended indefinitely from the Kings, should we?There's a big reason why. They are all playing insignificant roles on their respective teams. Cousins isn't a guy any team can bring him in and he'll accept 20-25 minutes off the bench. Neither McGee nor Young were head cases. They were low IQ players. Blatche is the only one that comes to mind and he's playing with 4 Allstars vets.Quote:
Originally Posted by CP3nDX30
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12-22-2012, 04:46 PMEman5805
That isn't to say those three still aren't doing some of the same things they became notorious for, but the structure is so strong where they are now, that it isn't disruptive.
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12-22-2012, 04:47 PMMichaelMcNamara
Saw this one coming. Had some possible trade ideas in this piece a few weeks ago:
http://www.hornets247.com/2012/11/24...tion-projects/ -
12-22-2012, 04:48 PMTim Floydhttp://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...itely/1786651/Quote:
The odds of the latest incident inspiring the Kings to consider trading Cousins are slim to none, as he is considered the centerpiece of their prolonged rebuilding effort.
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12-22-2012, 11:52 PMAD23nEG10Quote:
Originally Posted by QPon20
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Cousins is expected to work with agent Dan Fegan now, a move that could spell trouble for the Kings going forward.
Fegan is one of the most powerful agents in the NBA, and his most recent high-profile situation is the very sort of scenario the Kings – and every other team, for that matter – would like to avoid. Fegan was instrumental in Dwight Howard's exodus from Orlando to the Lakers last summer, having presented the Magic with a list of teams (Brooklyn, Dallas, and the Lakers) to which Howard was willing to re-sign if traded. Fegan's last extensive dealings with the Kings were in 2009, and they were far from positive for either side.
hiring the agent that got Dwight out of Orlando sure doesn't sound like his futures in Sactown. from the same article -
12-22-2012, 11:55 PMBallSoHardIt also ensures it will be handled very poorly.Quote:
Originally Posted by CP3nDX30
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12-23-2012, 03:23 AMbojangles837Cousins is suspended indefinitely from the Kings, should we?
That to me says he out of there. Too many incidents.
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12-23-2012, 05:16 AMHornetGuru
Yes I want Demarcus cousins dude is a freak him and ad would compliment each other perfectly
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12-23-2012, 05:28 AMPantazis76
You guys really want cousins here? He was suspended for fighting with his coach, saying his sick of losing..
How do you think he would fit here, although we would win a lot more with him on the team. -
12-23-2012, 07:17 AMBiasvasospasm
I'd want him on a veteran team with dominant personalities who could keep him in line with a strong established culture. I don't see how if you put him on a young team without strong personalities, he wouldn't create the same dysfunctional mess he's left in Sacramento because it's all he knows and there's no established star to keep him from doing that. I also think he'd clash with Monty and be a headache ad infinitum.
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12-23-2012, 11:46 AMEman5805Hopefully this also means Cousins will get moved without getting equal value.Quote:
Originally Posted by CP3nDX30
Welcome to NOLA? -
12-23-2012, 12:04 PMVinny6420
Cousins and AD would be crazy but I think we need help at the 3 right now
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12-23-2012, 12:06 PMglepurple
I wanted cousins before the season started...but dude is a stable player. He doesn't need to become a locker room cancer or a bad example for some of the other players.
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12-23-2012, 12:33 PMEman5805Only real help I can imagine as gettable is Luol Deng. But people are scared of his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny6420
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12-23-2012, 01:37 PMiNolaNightmare
Do not want Cousins. He's insane, a headcase.
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12-24-2012, 05:41 PMAD23forMVP
Reinstated after a single game...:hihi:
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12-24-2012, 06:31 PMEman5805
How dare you go at our coach! You get a timeout!
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12-24-2012, 07:20 PMThe JNRHow To Ru(i)n a Franchise, the top selling book by the Maloof Brothers!Quote:
Originally Posted by AD23forMVP